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  • Forkbeard
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2002
    • 2236

    #1

    AdBrite CEO is Industrial-Age Tool

    From Valleywag:

    From: Iggy Fanlo To: AdBrite Subject: work hours

    I hesitated sending this email for quite some time and had hoped that through your direct managers I would see some improvement. Having said that, I continue to see too few folks here at 9 AM; and too few folks here at 6 PM. I don't care if you are a morning person or a night person; if you want to work 10-8 pm or 8-6 pm, but I fully expect each one of you to put in 9-10 hours per working day. This is still a startup and we need more passion, time and energy from each of our employees than a large company would require. If we succeed, the rewards, both psychic and financial, will be great. But for that, we ask you to give more than the typical 9-5 job.

    I respect each and every one of you as professionals, and I would be VERY sad if I/we ever had to keep track of working hours for our employees, but I need each of you to think about your commitment and whether it is strong enough. Again, I want to repeat; for the vast majority of you, this is just an FYI and you should be content in the knowledge that I care about you and don't want you struggling alone long into the night. Those that work hard deserve more from their peers. It's my job to make sure that we fight as a team; we are only as strong as our weakest link.


    Ignacio "Iggy" Fanlo
    AdBrite
    CEO
    [email protected]
    Can you believe there's anybody left in the computer industry who still thinks you can measure knowledge-worker productivity by counting nose-desk-hours?
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  • RawAlex
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2003
    • 9465

    #2
    Someone needs to forward that to the state employment board. I suspect he would get whacked for "requiring" employees to work longer hours.

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    • TidalWave
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2007
      • 2706

      #3
      give him a break

      he wants dedicated people, if you arnt dedicated than leave
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      • Forkbeard
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2002
        • 2236

        #4
        RawAlex, could be, I'm not sure. The Valleywag article I link to expresses a similar suggestion, complete with a link to applicable CA law.
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        • Forkbeard
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2002
          • 2236

          #5
          TidalWave, you're missing the point.

          Employee dedication in the information age is not expressed, and cannot be measured, in terms of hours spent in front of a desk.
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          • GrouchyAdmin
            Now choke yourself!
            • Apr 2006
            • 12085

            #6
            I got my last country I was in banned from FuckedCompany by putting AdBrite on it. Pud was evidently not amused.

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            • WiredGuy
              Pounding Googlebot
              • Aug 2002
              • 34512

              #7
              I don't see anything wrong with that email so long as the employee salaries / stock options are reflected of their income. If they work 9-5, expect a regular salary. If they're working 10-12 hours per day, I'd expect their employees making a premium in income/stock options, especially at this point that they've had success thus far.
              WG
              I play with Google.

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              • GrouchyAdmin
                Now choke yourself!
                • Apr 2006
                • 12085

                #8
                After all, when you're making $0.02/click, you need to have your employees work extra long hours clicking on client sites.

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                • collegeboobies
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 3644

                  #9
                  You guys are kidding? They are being given a lot of freedom such as choosing what times they work, if he is paying a fair amount and they are a startup those hours are to be expected. New lawyers coming into a big firm are expected to be in the office 16 hours and will just be fired no warning if they dont put in the extra effort.

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                  • collegeboobies
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 3644

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Forkbeard
                    TidalWave, you're missing the point.

                    Employee dedication in the information age is not expressed, and cannot be measured, in terms of hours spent in front of a desk.
                    You think thats the ONLY reason he sent that email? No, there are obviously internal factors that resulted in his decision to send the email. Maybe deadlines are constantly missed and they are having trouble keeping up with competitors? Who knows.

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                    • Bods4Mods
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 904

                      #11
                      Originally posted by collegeboobies
                      You guys are kidding? They are being given a lot of freedom such as choosing what times they work, if he is paying a fair amount and they are a startup those hours are to be expected. New lawyers coming into a big firm are expected to be in the office 16 hours and will just be fired no warning if they dont put in the extra effort.

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                      • GITZINGER
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 929

                        #12
                        this thread delivers!!

                        Your momma was a ho!!!

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                        • minusonebit
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 7391

                          #13
                          I don't see anything wrong with the message, as long as he isnt pulling a Wal-Mart and making them work off the clock and if they are salary employees, doesn't matter, your ass belongs to the company then anyway. Don't like the job? Quit. Go get another one. Shut up.

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                          • Forkbeard
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 2236

                            #14
                            Amazing to see so many on this board who are still locked into industrial-age concepts of productivity.
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                            • charlie g
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 2759

                              #15
                              As much as I dislike adbrite company I admire this letter. True, the industrial age concept of productivity is significantly different than IA productivity. But I understand the point he is trying to make. He obviously has targeted that to the people who needed to hear the message.
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                              • the Shemp
                                congrats to the winners
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 10891

                                #16
                                "I fully expect each one of you to put in 9-10 hours per working day"

                                where's the union when you need them....
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