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Vendot 10-31-2007 05:01 AM

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If youre changing say hot_sexy_babes.html to hotsexybabes.html how do you do it without getting penalized by google for duplicate content?

Do you:

(1) Delete the first and let it 404 and just link from your site to the second.

(2) Have both on your domain but just link to the second so google doesnt index the first when the indexing happens but only indexes the second.

(3) Something else?

kmanrox 10-31-2007 05:05 AM

from what i understand, no it won't get penalized

roly 10-31-2007 05:21 AM

i would guess with a 301 permanent redirect, as long as nothing has been changed with page rank hijacking

Vick! 10-31-2007 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vendot (Post 13310760)
If youre changing say hot_sexy_babes.html to hotsexybabes.html how do you do it without getting penalized by google for duplicate content?

Do you:

(1) Delete the first and let it 404 and just link from your site to the second.

(2) Have both on your domain but just link to the second so google doesnt index the first when the indexing happens but only indexes the second.

(3) Something else?


Use 301 redirect from old page to new page. It will give two benefits. 1) Avoid duplicate content penalty. 2) Pass the link popularity (and PageRank) of older page to new one.

And of course don't forget to replace old links with new link, though its not necessary in the presence of 301 redirect, but recommended.

Vendot 10-31-2007 05:25 AM

Quick questions:

(1) How do you do a 301 redirect from old page to new page? How is it done?

(2) What you say replace old links with new link, what do you mean? The old links are the ones which i would be 301 redirecting to the new page so why does the old page need replacing? Eventually when the new pages are indexed, ill just delete the old pages.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Vick! (Post 13310820)
Use 301 redirect from old page to new page. It will give two benefits. 1) Avoid duplicate content penalty. 2) Pass the link popularity (and PageRank) of older page to new one.

And of course don't forget to replace old links with new link, though its not necessary in the presence of 301 redirect, but recommended.


Vick! 10-31-2007 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vendot (Post 13310843)
Quick questions:

(1) How do you do a 301 redirect from old page to new page? How is it done?

Add this line of code in your .htaccess.

Code:

Redirect 301 /old/old.htm http://www.domain.com/new.htm
Remember to use old file/folder name or path without http://www.domain.com and new file/folder name and path with http://www.domain.com

I guess, i don't need to mention that you should upload your .htaccess in ASCII mode. It is very important.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vendot (Post 13310843)
(2) What you say replace old links with new link, what do you mean? The old links are the ones which i would be 301 redirecting to the new page so why does the old page need replacing? Eventually when the new pages are indexed, ill just delete the old pages.

When I say replace old links, I mean removing all links to old-page.html from your website and replacing it to new-page.html

Also, you can delete old pages right after you done setting up 301 redirect.

Vendot 10-31-2007 06:21 AM

Vick,

Thanks for this..... very appreciated. Ive done that and it works!

One last question:

(1) I get people to link to my domain.com (without www.) Now if i want to get PR only on domain.com is there a way to use htaccess so that everything www.domain.com ends up at domain.com ??? (including all the PR)

Vick! 10-31-2007 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vendot (Post 13311103)
Vick,

Thanks for this..... very appreciated. Ive done that and it works!

you are welcome dude..

Quote:

Originally Posted by vendot (Post 13311103)
One last question:

(1) I get people to link to my domain.com (without www.) Now if i want to get PR only on domain.com is there a way to use htaccess so that everything www.domain.com ends up at domain.com ??? (including all the PR)

Use this code in .htaccess

Code:

Options +FollowSymlinks
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.(.*)$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^ http://%1%{REQUEST_URI} [L,R=301]


Jace 10-31-2007 07:08 AM

changing hot_sexy_babes.html to hotsexybabes.html is pointless, you just changed one thing to another and they both are exactly the same in the search engines eyes

if you wanna change something, change hot_sexy_babes.html to hot-sexy-babes.html

in searchenginise, hot_sexy_babes is one full thing, underscores are characters, but hypens are spaces

Vendot 10-31-2007 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13311272)

in searchenginise, hot_sexy_babes is one full thing, underscores are characters, but hypens are spaces

What?

Are you saying that hyphens could rank better than underscores??

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Vick! 10-31-2007 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vendot (Post 13311296)
What?

Are you saying that hyphens could rank better than underscores??

Search engines, now a days, are smart enough to pick keywords from the URL even if you have used underscores. They can even pick and bold the "teacher" and "sex" from firstsexwithteacherblahblah.html if you search for "teacher sex", without quotes.

Hyphens (dashes) are just recommended by most SEOs over underscores. Have a look at Dashes vs Underscores

Oracle Porn 10-31-2007 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 13310773)
from what i understand, no it won't get penalized

what a fucking idiot you are, who the fuck qualified you to give advice on seo? you are one stupid ignorant tranny fucking motherfucker.

Vick! 10-31-2007 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 13310773)
from what i understand, no it won't get penalized

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 13311327)
what a fucking idiot you are, who the fuck qualified you to give advice on seo? you are one stupid ignorant tranny fucking motherfucker.

shit, that was harsh :(

SCORE Ralph 10-31-2007 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vick! (Post 13311340)
shit, that was harsh :(

Indeed.... he convinced me to buy a gun and carry it at all times.

Vendot 10-31-2007 10:06 AM

Can someone comment on whether this htaccess code is right?
Or have i added something or missed something out?


RewriteEngine On
Options +FollowSymlinks
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.(.*)$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^ http://%1%{REQUEST_URI} [L,R=301]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com
RewriteRule .*[Jj][Pp][Gg]$|.*[Gg][Ii][Ff]$ http://www.domain.com/index.html [L]
#domain.com/index.html - your custom hotlinker page

ErrorDocument 404 http://domain.com
DirectoryIndex index.html

seeric 10-31-2007 10:33 AM

why even change it?

hot_sexy_babes

is better for the engines anyhow.

SCORE Ralph 10-31-2007 11:07 AM

The application he wants to use it for doesnt matter, he just wanted to know how to do such a change.

Jace 10-31-2007 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspwm (Post 13312339)
The application he wants to use it for doesnt matter, he just wanted to know how to do such a change.

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/dashes-vs-underscores/

Quote:

That?s why I would always choose dashes instead of underscores. To answer a common question, Google doesn?t algorithmically penalize for dashes in the url. Of course I can only speak for Google, not other search engines. And bear in mind that if your domain looks like http://www.buy-cheap-viagra-online-w...ching-porn.com, that may still attract attention for other reasons.

woj 10-31-2007 11:31 AM

301 redirect is the solution to this..


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