*GTS* & Submit Pass members (please read)
 

Hey guys. I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, and if not, here ya go.

You see - I know there are many webmasters out there who've been forking out "Thousands" of dollars for these Submit accounts.. I myself have invested over 4 grand. But I know there are others who've invested alot more than me. (and for any Submit Pass members reading this, please chime in with any feedback you may have on this topic)

So my question is this - how about some kind of "Perk" for us webmasters who've been paying out thousands. I mean - I dont know what kind of "Perk", just something to give back to the Big spenders.. ya know, maybe something like - for every member who reachs a certain dollar amount gets a free month, etc.. Cause this shit is getting expensive man. =)

I'm assuming that you (GTS) dont have the final word on this but maybe you can pass this along to all these sites that we've been paying for.

Thanks GTS, and keep up the good work. And remember - this isn't a complaint - this is just something I've been thinking about for awhile now.

Thats a decent suggestion

You make a fair point. However, the webmasters will say "well why would I give him a month free when he's happy to pay for it for 6 months"

So don't expect much to be done, as long as a pass is making you money then thats all that matters. You can pretty much tell the good ones and bad ones within 6 weeks so you drop it after your second month. Thats what I do anyway.

I'll never waste money on Submitspasses again.

isn't the idea that you make more money back than you spend? There's your perk.

Nah that's just common sense...:winkwink:

some Mars chocholate icecream bars would do for me! king size please!

how about some bonus for all GFY'ers who reached 30k posts?

Ah, thanks for the input there Rage3 and believe me, we are working on it and its going to be coming up very shortly. I can't give a firm date, but I would say January at the latest.

Feel free to hit me up directly with any other suggestions/wants/needs/requests for hookers. ;)

498-202 on ICQ and of course matt.at.submitpasses.com

Sounds like you found the bad ones :)

They used to bring in wicked sales back in say.... 2005. Not anymore though. Plus.. the last one I bought has this fucked-up CRC check bot to discourage people form changing the galleries.. which I understand. However, my server hicuped one day and all my submissions were deleted. Last 3 passes I have bought have not rendered any sales. I can get better results with free sites such as yours and that's no BS.

you act as if you're spending the $ to help them out and not to invest to make a profit.

I think its a good idea to give back to loyal customers... ( I am waiting for my google gift this year)

BTW which are the really good submit passes for fetish/granny/latex type stuff?

Is this a good formula? Or were you just doing a for instance.

I just recently sent info to GTS with the idea of using them and have accounts with Richard's Realm and World Sex, but was curious how long you should wait for results and if some are different than others in the time span you should be waiting.

Why would they do that? You pay for a service, you receive the service... that's the perk.

You're right :1orglaugh

BTW Happy Birthday...:pimp

i got a gts shirt some time last year

Based on this logic The Hun should send me a check to pay off my mortgage :winkwink:

If you keep making posts like this that utilize logic and common sense you're gonna fuck up the whole ambience of the board.

I love my GTS shirt. One of the coolest smut swag shirts I've been given! :thumbsup

Im almost willing to give it a second chance I think. I spent a few hundred a couple of months ago on a number of submit passes through submitpasses and another service and got $0 return which really discouraged me from ever trying it again. However, I think the problem was I went with less expensive passes ($60 to $100) instead of just forking out a few hundred on one or two.

I know it takes money to make money, and I dont mind spending it as long as I at least come close to breaking even. any suggestions to sites, feel free to let me know :winkwink:

but from the question, it would be nice to hook up webmasters in other ways then free months maybe. drinks? hookers? drinks on hookers?

Well it works for me, can't say about anyone else. If you are getting listed on a site the majority of the time and you don't see sales in a few weeks then its probably not gonna happen for you. Thats why I give each pass 6 weeks, then take stock. If its not making profit by then, then I drop it and move on. Its simple really.

Thanks. I like it. That's sort of how I was going to work it myself but needed someone to verify that was a good idea.

Do you ever drop ones and come back later or just say bye for good?

I don't trust submitpasses/gts because of Matt

he protects the webmasters he represents, even when they try to rip you off.

and if you complain when he won't do anything about it.. yep, he will cancel your passes.

if you do not use submitpasses/gts then here's a little advice...

go directly to the source so you don't pay their broker fee.

~Ray

I've been doing that, but not all of them offer that service and make you go through submit pass. Also, how do they rip you off. A submit pass just allows you to submit so many galleries a day and bumps you up over anonymous webmasters. It doesn't gaurantee you listings. They have programs for that too.

So far I haven't had any problem getting listed on a few straight to accounts I have and I don't create super professional stuff nor buy content.

Just curious how you got ripped off before I get into something I shouldn't

Yeah, funny you should ask... the other week I picked up two passes that I had dropped a while ago coz they didn't work for me. Now tho the sales are going really nicely, better than some of my older ones.

Its always worth trying them every 4 - 6 months for the sake of $30 or so. Its not much, 1 signup on PPS so... :)

when I logged into my account to submit a gallery, I saw that I didn't have proper access, then in font size 5 red letters was a webpage to get a pass. so I went there and it said, "fuck submitpasses" or something like that, and if I wanted a pass, to epass them money. so I sent them money and was going to ask submipasses for a refund. Well, it turns out that matt had already seen that page and told the guy (Ivan) to take it down. Ivan never took it down so I sent him money and he took 2 months to send it back. I told matt about this and although he knew about that page , he refused to do anything about it. when I called him out and asked why he would support a scamming webmaster instead of the people using submitpasses service, he said it sounded like I wasn't comfortable using submitpassed and canned renewals on my last 3 passes. the rest weren't worth a shit.

turns out that the pass that caused all of the trouble was listed wrong on submitpasses and was for movie galleries only, so I could not have used it anyway.


~Ray

You got to be shitting me? I only deal with Matt! He's great. Maybe you just had a bad experience with him but in my opinion he's brilliant.

GTS are crooks. 90% of their passes are WAAAAAY overpriced and no matter what you do wont make you any profit. You will ALWAYS get the excuse from them that your gallery sucks but most of these passes simply dont send any traffic to your galleries so it has nothing to do with your gallery in the first place.

Yes there are a *few* passes that are worth the money and those are always sold out, for a reason obviously.

I highly suggest taking your money somewhere else. Hit up tgp owners and ask for paid spots. Most of them and more than happy to take your money.

Mark and the GTS crew also have the nasty habbit to act as if they own the internet and will go all mafia on your ass if you upset them.

And also lets not forget why Mark stopped posting on gfy. He tried to ruin an innocent guys business here and all other webmasterboards while Mark was wrong. Hes a lunatic and you should stay away from lunatics.

I suppose there's no real good advice on which tgp's are best. I guess it all depends on the sponsers your using and the content you select and the whole chemistry thing.

I'm doing fairly decent now on Richards Realm with what would probably be considered over saturated sponsers and not so well with one's I expected to.

On the other hand I haven't made a nickel on World sex, though I am sort of new there.

There aren't any others you could suggest are there? I mean available ones on GTS's submit passes?

Thanks

I want to as well.. but history dictates that wouldn't be a wise decision after the third strike.

You've pretty much got it there. Different things work for different people on each site. You can have 3 guys submitting the same sponsor, getting listed on the same site and only one of them is making sales. So many variables.

Hit me up on ICQ (498-202) when you get a chance and we can go over some of your galleries and figure out what should work for you.

I think GTS is offering a great service. Most of the passes convert well for me.

This is pretty much a pain in the ass though. I'm just trying to get one submit pass and it's giving me an invoice date with all this crazy ass ways of paying instead of just having a basic credit card submit form, and even though the invoice is giving me a date and five days to pay the account isn't activated yet

This might be some good advice. I just did what you suggested now because I felt I had to and was received very well. Still, not sure you can do this with everyone and nothing against Matt cause I don't even know him yet, but if I ever deny you anything, remind me that I owe you one:thumbsup

Bad experience? I'm not happy and haven't wasn't any money even yet

GTS is overpriced

It's not what it used to be. Richard's Realm.. French cum.. whatever. The pricing is behind the times. It's not worth it to me.

Well, I'm going to take the advice and contact direct. There's no more Easter Bunny or Santa Clause, God is Dead and Jesus isn't coming back to save us:thumbsup

I have no idea how people make money from GTS passes except programe owners who make 100% of the sale

I'll give it another 24 and then tell you what I think this time tomorrow

Matt, thanks a bunch for getting back to me. It was worth the wait and thanks for the extra tidbits of info too!:thumbsup

Sorry, I made a couple harsh comments in this thread.

Apologies!

I also think this is a great idea. Specially with the dollar getting weaker and weaker every day, I'm seriuosly thinking of cutting some costs by dropping a few partner accounts (and I also spend thousands of dollars every month with it).

i'd hardly say GTS is overrpriced, as the broker, in the end its simply the tgp owners price marked up to their perceived value of the spot or what they assume would be the max amount they could charge to get webmasters to buy ...

whether or not recouping the broker fee inflates the cost is another story.

This guy is awesome. He sat with me for hours this morning schooling me on things I had no idea about. Can't vouch for his idea yet, but I'll suck it up a little and take a chance.

WHO'S THE NEXT VICTIM I GET TO BAG ON AND THEN HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO?:1orglaugh

Seriously, though, this guy (Matt) spent ungodly hours on ICQ with me getting me introduced to an entirely new system, and I've been surviving okay without him, so I'm just saying that if you want to try out something new and can afford a meager few dollars to do it, you might want to check them out.

I'm not going to blow him just yet:1orglaugh, but I'll be back with my success rate which for the price I can't see being a total loss even if I get back nothing

You have to fess up when you might have been wrong!

I been working with Matt from GTS for almost a year now and its worth every dollar i spend.. he takes care of any problem or question i have about all the PAs they offer.. for me its definitely worth it since i have tons of PA accounts and i don't wanna go running after the TGP/MGP owner with every problem or Question i have, MATT and GTS take care of all the accounts i have with them and save me alot of time..