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rapmaster 10-24-2007 10:22 PM

Your right to not go to prison
 
If you've ever been curious about how to deal with federal investigators then check this page out

http://constitutionalism.blogspot.co...tor-go-to.html

scroll down to the bottom for some good advice. You can go to jail Martha Stewart style just for refusing to talk to them the wrong way.

minusonebit 10-24-2007 10:37 PM

Four words that solve ALL law enforcement problems: "I want my lawyer".

xroach 10-24-2007 11:34 PM

can't they just put you in jail for no reason these days ?

papill0n 10-24-2007 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xroach (Post 13284343)
can't they just put you in jail for no reason these days ?

yep they sure can , here they can hold you for like a week without having a single thing on you

GreyWolf 10-24-2007 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by xroach (Post 13284343)
can't they just put you in jail for no reason these days ?

Some countries maybe - depends what the problem is.

Where I am, no. They must have valid reason - ie a specific charge or a request for custody pending further investigation - and a judge will not listen to gossip, he/she wants facts.

Flipside is LE are very good with people generally and by law, are not permitted to be "oppressive" else their asses end up in jail. In practice, they are more friends towards folks and no problem (unless you commit offenses). This is a totally different attitude to eg. the EU, US etc.

xroach 10-24-2007 11:54 PM

I'm thinking the states.. loss of habeus corpus and all that

GreyWolf 10-25-2007 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by xroach (Post 13284391)
I'm thinking the states.. loss of habeus corpus and all that

Sure.. it has a lot to do with that - and the general aura surrounding cops within the US. I've never known any other country behave more subservient to someone in a uniform.

Some of the US style LE conduct would not be tolerated elsewhere - it's too overboard. At the same time, know a few US govt officers and they tend to listen to what people are saying and come on to whatever level to communicate - tho they are not exactly Officer Plod either.

In eg.. the UK, nobody is going to stand for crap from the police. They will get verbally abused if they even try that. At the same time, the police adopt a cynical attitude - eg. speed cop "So, we think we are in the final lap of the Grand Prix do we?" :winkwink: At the same time, people will help the police - it's a kinda balance and there is respect on both sides.

Another scenario is where we operate now - it's totally different and the police show respect and they get respect in return. They also will help in a practical way - I've had em knee deep in a swamp pulling my car out. Doubt many cops would do that. Another time had an accident and reversed into a police car. First thing they do is get out and shake hands. There were no charges - it was an accident (tho the front of their car was totally crunched). These kinda guys (and girls), you would put yourself out to help if they needed it.

Not sure what actual officers would say, but always think LE is about "attitude", "communication" and "balance". Sometimes there is a need to be firm, others a need to understand where people are coming from and always a need to adopt the right attitude to match the occasion.


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