There is no conspiracy behind 911 PERIOD!
 

I was listening to a radio show earlier and they had all these idiots calling in claming that what happened on 911 was a controlled demolition.

Let me ask you this...

If it was a controlled demo, then how come nobody noticed the drilling aka construction work going on to implant the explosives to bring it down?

How come after the so called, 2 days of nobody in the towers for maintaince, when people came back to work did they not notice anything?

You cant tell me construction crews were smart enough to make sure nobody noticed anything fishy going on, but dumb enough to fuck up and not fool you idiots.

Gimme a break

I doubt Bush and them planned it, but I think it is possible that they let it happen...

Our government was behind 911. That is all.
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Yeah ok... they were so smart that they came up with this elaborate hoax that fooled 80-90% of the world, but yet you figured it out!

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Prove it.................

Actually, your thread title is not accurate.

Just the fact that a group of people conspired to systematically attack various targets using a strategic plan means that there was in fact a conspiracy.

Dude, that is so lame. We know Al-Qaeda conspired, but when people say the word conspiracy along with 9/11 everyone knows what they mean...

keyword....

lame

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Yup, that's GFY... it's "what I mean" not "what I say" :winkwink:

Maybe because it was done by US Special Forces and in secret. Because if everyone knew that the buildings were gonna blow, then it wouldnt have let Bushy pass his legislation? Duh?

And you and the few other idiots are the only ones smart enough to figure out bush and his bad bad men?

hahahaha ok

I have gold teefs

you are right..terrorists alone did this

they also had the drilling crews into the WTC the weekend before it came down

look it up..dust covering almost everything the morning before it went down

those damn dirty terrorists got away with it..and there are even witnesses who saw them laying internet cabling the weekend before

damn dirty terrorists

you know who is to blame? the sys admin dude who saw all the wiring being laid down and didnt call the authorities that dirty terrorists were laying cabling with high security passes to all areas of the building

damn terrorists

if only Marvin Bush's security force on watch looking over the building didnt have their budget cut and didnt have to take out the bomb sniffing dogs months before...damn terrorists..acting all alone in this

I dont think they did it but I think they knew it was coming and did nothing. They needed it happen to push their agenda.

Exactly.

The theory that explosives were planted by the government in the towers is certainly one of the more extreme conspiracy theories. Just because that one may not be true doesn't mean you can write off all the other theories.


"I was surprised at the evidence that there were foreign governments involved in facilitating the activities of at least some of the terrorists in the United States... It will become public at some point when it's turned over to the archives, but that's 20 or 30 years from now."
- Senator Bob Graham, Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/911-graham-admits.htm


And let's not forget that five members of Mossad (Israeli version of the CIA) were arrested just after the attacks when they were seen dancing in the street. That was on the news for the first day or two and then there was a sudden media blackout of the story.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

Building 7 was "pulled" and this is on public record. The other buildings on the other hand is harder to say, however they came down at near free fall speeds and the only way that could have happened is by controlled demolitions... It may have been that the two towers were "pulled", but its hard to say... a lot of facts do not seem to add up when looking at the physics...

Its safe to say no one will take the responsibility for the two towers... if they did "pull" them...

Just a thought...

Later,

Mock it all you want. Eventually, people like me who THINK independently of the stupid fucking government to get vindicated. It will happen again. And I will enjoy watching this load of sheeple get led up the slaughterhouse ramps.

Anyone that believes the 'official' version has their head up their ass. There is way to much that shows otherwise.

How do you explain the multitude of reporters, firefighters and other witnesses that claim there was multiple explosions in this video?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw

And then there's this video of the crash scene of flight 93 that shows no debri

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc

Thats all just a drop in the bucket. Bush not reacting whatsoever for 20 minutes when he was told, unskilled pilots having the ability to fly jumbo jets and hitting their targets, the way the buildings fell, building 7 mysteriously falling, finding one of the highjackers passport on the streets of NY an hour after the buildings fell, Bush fighting against a 9/11 investigation, ignoring bin Laden, etc, etc, etc, it all adds up to bullshit.

Bush has already shown he will lie to invade a country at the expense of a hundred thousand lives yet people would rather believe some dude surrounded by sheep in a fucking cave half way around the world did this...puh leese.

I think Zionists in Israel were definitely involved. They were probably behind this more than al-Qaeda was. I believe the two groups worked together. That the Zionists planned the entire thing and al-Qaeda supplied the people to actually carry it out. This is why bin-Laden has oddly never claimed responsibility.

That brings us to the US Government. I do not believe they conspired to make this happen, but I think they knew an attack was coming and made no attempt to stop it given the ramifications of fingering Israel for something that hadn't even happened yet.

So what did Israel get out of this? We are now fighting their wars in the middle east. The basis of invading Iraq was that Saddam may use WMD on "US interests" (read: Israel). Over the next decade we will probably be manipulated by Israel into wars with Iran and Syria.

So then why did tower 7 fall, after the owner telling some one else to "pull it"?

These nutjobs are fucking stupid. You can't really argue with them. They've allowed blind hatred for an administration make huge leaps in logic and plausibility. The thing that bothers me is that they want to believe it.

What most of these liberal fuckwits don't know is that -- ANYONE --who knows even a little about controlled demo, would realize that a it is a major undertaking that takes months of planning and crews of demo experts many weeks or even months to rig up a job of this magnitude. The building has to have unfettered access --- it's a feat of engineering even in an abandoned building, which BTW, the largest controlled demo ever was on 2.2 million square feet of building. The WTC towers were combined something like 13 million square footage. Miles of fucking wiring OR a non existent remote demolition control rig, which also was not destroyed by the fake jets with fake terrorists and fake passengers on board. No to mention finding experts skilled enough to this, and without moral conscience knowing that they will be killing thousands of Americans....and also keep it secret.

It's OK to hate the Bush administration, but part of their whacky conspiracy theory is as possible as me going to the parking lot and lifting my SUV over my head.

They grasp at really thin straws.

And so the Bush administration is smart enough to pull off the most massive fake terrorist attack to absolute perfection, but they couldn't or wouldn't cook up a scheme to make us all think they found WMD's in Iraq?

Chew on this....it's delicious.

http://www.debunking911.com/massivect.htm

if you think 911 wasn't a conspiracy then you must be of the opinion that 1 man flew four planes into 4 seperate targets with no help from anyone.

I think what you meant to say was that you don't think 911 was a government conspiracy..

i dont nec agree . i will lay out an example.

if the head of the cia and a few of his cohorts intentionally ignored specific warnings because they felt they were being underfunded , it would be very hard for you or i to know anything about it..

Personally i think theres more evidence to suggest the planes caused the towers to collapse than anything else but i will play along and answer your questions :)


apparently many people did notice strange noises and work in the weeks before 9/11

besides it wouldn't take much "drills and construction work" , a couple guys with backpacks over a few nights when 99% of the people are not there.


your asking 2 questions..

# 1 is you seem to believe the wtc is lying about doing maintenance, i cant answer that , i havent heard anything to suggest they are lying about the maintenance nor do i see why them lying about maintenance would prove terrorists were solely responsible

#2 what would they notice ?

so what your telling me is nobody ever planned anything clever that wasn't caught before it happened ?

umm ok :winkwink:

here we go again....

Of course there ws a conspiracy... saying there wasn't is ignorant.

It took more than one person to bring down those towers... and, by definition, if at least 2 people were involved in the planning, it was a conspiracy.

The question that some would debate is who was involved in the conspiracy. :2 cents:

What do you mean more than one person was involved? wasn't there 12 hijackers in total or something?

I must admit I have heard some fishy stuff but I just don't want to believe the american government could be so fucked up..

Just curious, do you believe 90% or more of the official information that is out there?

are you our leader now? lead me

I've never really given much thought to conspiracy theories, but I do find it very disturbing that the debris (metal) from the WTC was sold to China as scrap metal. Wasn't it part of a crime scene? since the metal wasnt kept for investigation you cant prove that it wasnt a control demolition.

They all heard some of the most massive buildings you could ever imagine begin to implode on themselves. Do you really think that wouldn't sound like "explosions" to most people?

12 > 1. :winkwink:

lol, those guys are just confusing people even more by pointing out the obvious that Al-Qaeda actually "conspired" to pull off 9/11, so they expect everyone to specifically say "9/11 GOVERNMENT Conspiracy" as if everyone doesn't already know what people mean when they say "9/11 Conspiracy."

you are right..no way this was done by some people carrying out a plan

as you pointed out it takes months of planning and extremely well palced explosions to bing down a building...especially of this size

Luckily though...a couple dirty terrorists flew two planes into the sides of the building and that knocked them down...and one other building so that they all fell perfectly into each others footsteps...damn terrorists are better at controlled demo then we are...man they suck

of course there is. by the fucking arabs

yeah, well, most demo experts don't fly planes into buildings. They plan and rig charges. This is the first time this has happened. I doubt the terrorists knew that the buildings would come down from their flying jet fuel missles....maybe in their wildest dreams, who knows. The buildings collapsing were an added bonus for them.

You guys always chime in with that freefall and footsteps bullshit...like these things indicate that it HAD to be controlled demo. Noam Chomsky makes some good points in this video...http://www.debunking911.com/massivect.htm

He points out that even in controlled experiments, there are always inconsistencies and unexplained occurrences. This is the first time buildings have collapsed from jet planes flying into them. No one can really prove that anything has happened other than what appeared to happen.

and Smokey I can't believe you're back, with your double-talking bullshit. Yes, it was a conspiracy, if you want to twist words and get technical. It's not a government conspiracy, its a terrorist conspiracy.

I've noticed, in almost any discussion(net or face to face) about terrorism with liberal-minded folks, they seem to not believe that terrorism even exists -- and that it's all the big bad wolf.

truly headless post, you honour your nick :)

I personally don't think it was the goverment - but you always have to be skeptical. Who the fuck knows what bush and his madmen are capable of, we all know how stupid bush is, so it's not out of the question that he was behind it.

In my opinion they wouldn't of been able to go to Iraq if 9/11 didn't happen and one more point -

What about those 5 white non arabs that were arrested with bombs on the george washington bridge but then it dissapeared from the news permanently? ;)

war = money / money = war ... that's all

thats a pretty stupid statement to make... how do you know there wasnt? or how do you know there was? The public doesnt know shit, you dont know shit, i dont know shit. The people that do know everything about it will never gonna talk to the public.

hey dont get me wrong...i am totally behind the government

lets carpet bomb iran..and steal their oil..er i mean liberate them

not like any other countries inthe world have any pre existing contracts for the oil...like russia...china etc

oh wait they do and did in iraq...fuck...maybe the government needs to come up with a plan to get in there..oh shit

wait what im saying is....terrorism sucks

Lol, did you check out the hecklers from the audience on Bill Meyer's show last week trying to get their crazy ass message out on his show? I mean, if those guys actually believe that our government was involved in 9-11then they belong in the looney bin for believing that our incompetent government is actually capable of pulling of a stunt like that.

Perspective: Our government spent over 60 million dollars (and reportedly as much as 100 million) on the investigation of Bill Clinton's sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. Even after the the Bush administration reluctantly agreed to put together the "9-11 Commission", the budget for the investigation was just over $3 million. -- Sounds like there was something that they did not want to be discovered. How can the largest terrorist attack in our nations history be given so little attention? What leader would not expend every resource available to him and his administration unless there was something he/they were trying to hide? Simply put, if you were the President when 9/11 happened, what would you have done?

When Bush was questioned about whether or not he had knowledge about the attacks prior to their occurrence he replied "it's just politics. Politics. <long pause> It's an absurd notion" But, he did not deny it. (reference: see 9/11 Press For Truth).

The rubble from the two towers was promptly hauled away without allowing any forensic investigation. Your local police force would do more if there was a murder at your house.

Google Marvin Bush.

Bush lied about seeing footage of the first plane hitting the tower. At the time he said that, there was no footage of that incident. In fact, to this day there is only one known video record of the event and it was released several hours after Bush claimed to have seen it on TV.

Even if you don't want to think about the possibility that something other than what our "free press" is telling us about 9/11, I urge you to see this film and just keep the idea in the back of your mind that it is possible that this entire event was orchestrated or at least facilitated by Americans, perhaps even our own government or those who influence it.

This really is worth a watch. (click below)



http://loosechange911.com/img/lcow.jpg




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Didn't hitler burn down the german government building and fooling many millions that the communists did it?

comeon...we all know history never repeats itself ;)


Go Bush...liberate the oppressed people of the world

No shit. WTF are these people thinking questioning an administration that stole two elections, deliberately outed an undercover CIA agent for political gain, lied for a war, lied about spying on its own citizens, and passed laws to take away civil rights. Fucking nutjobs.