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Dirty F 10-13-2007 12:27 PM

If you believe Nostradamus predicted shit like WW2 and 9/11 then you are an imbecile
 
Thats it. Now move on.

Wait no, then you are a huge fucking imbecile.

:thumbsup

FredIsMe 10-13-2007 12:34 PM

Be vague and people will make the wildest connections.

ProducerCashDave 10-13-2007 12:36 PM

http://www.techspot.com/gallery/data/504/wtf.jpg

DEA - banned for life 10-13-2007 12:37 PM

do you belive in those physcic detectives ?

Dirty F 10-13-2007 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DEA (Post 13231129)
do you belive in those physcic detectives ?

You should look up how many missing persons were found using those scam artists.

Here let me save you some time: 0. Thats zero. Nobody. None.

Thats right, despite 100's of movies, shows, documentaries and 100.000's if not millions of people who claim they have physcic abilities a total of ZERO missing persons have been found thanks to them. So why ANYBODY with an IQ above 80 would believe that shit is beyond me.

buzzy 10-13-2007 12:44 PM

congrats every1

Marie 10-13-2007 12:54 PM

...but I don't wanna be an imbecile!

I was at V&D (yes, i don't know what got into me) today and noticed a "Nostradamus for Dummies". Didn't get it, is was too thick ;).
Didn't he predict the death of the "smiling" pope? haha

Dirty F 10-13-2007 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie (Post 13231177)
...but I don't wanna be an imbecile!

I was at V&D (yes, i don't know what got into me) today and noticed a "Nostradamus for Dummies". Didn't get it, is was too thick ;).
Didn't he predict the death of the "smiling" pope? haha

You dont like it thick?
And i actually wouldnt mind reading a book about him. I bet he did some interesting things worth reading about but that whole prediction shit believe WANT to believe is just retarded.

D 10-13-2007 12:59 PM

/shrug

There are other, seemingly popular, items to believe in that can more readily mark you an imbecile, i think... Nostradamus was, without a doubt, a brilliant man. The myths surrounding him and his life just expand on that idea - where as there are plenty of things that people fervently claim to believe in (man didn't land on the moon, human pollution has no effect on our environment, etc) that have even less sensible backing than the myths surrounding Nostradamus, imho.

Personally, I think he was just a social commentator that spoke in vague verse... leaving people to translate it all as they see fit... the guy ardently shunned the title "prophet" throughout his life... he considered himself a historian.

Lots of mythos surrounding the guy's life, for sure... my favorite being that his body was exhumed during the French Revolution and found to have a medallion around his neck with the same year of his exhumation... right before the guy that exhumed him got killed by a stray bullet from a near-by battle. I'm sure it's all bullshit, but still interesting bullshit. :)

Just goes to show the guy had a profound affect on people in his time.

aico 10-13-2007 01:01 PM

I doubt you even know what his predictions were.

Marie 10-13-2007 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 13231185)
And i actually wouldnt mind reading a book about him.

Here you go: http://www.nostredame.info/
free ebook

woj 10-13-2007 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 13231146)
You should look up how many missing persons were found using those scam artists.

Here let me save you some time: 0. Thats zero. Nobody. None.

Thats right, despite 100's of movies, shows, documentaries and 100.000's if not millions of people who claim they have physcic abilities a total of ZERO missing persons have been found thanks to them. So why ANYBODY with an IQ above 80 would believe that shit is beyond me.

I think you may be wrong, I think quite a few people were found using those scams.... BUT, the tips that the psychic gave them were probably "the body is near the water", or "the body is in the forest" or some vague crap like that...

They work same way as normal psychic readings, they give what seems like specific information, but really is just vague bullshit "you will live near the water", "you will have problems with your significant other", "I see death in the family" etc etc...

Dirty F 10-13-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13231190)
I doubt you even know what his predictions were.

Are you my new stalker now Polish stopped stalking me? Youre fucking in every fucking thread i make trying to bash me with your bs. Fuck off dumb ape.

RawAlex 10-13-2007 01:20 PM

He also predicted there would be an idiot called "Dirty Franck" who would post on GFY between shifts at McDonalds.

Dirty F 10-13-2007 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 13231233)
I think you may be wrong, I think quite a few people were found using those scams.... BUT, the tips that the psychic gave them were probably "the body is near the water", or "the body is in the forest" or some vague crap like that...

Well, take 1000 cases of missing people and 5000 people trying to solve them with vague shit and you will always get 1 or 2 cases where you can say it was thanks to these people they were found.

But when it comes to really pointing out where a missing person can be found there are 0 cases where this happened.

Dirty F 10-13-2007 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13231259)
He also predicted there would be an idiot called "Dirty Franck" who would post on GFY between shifts at McDonalds.

Good one imbecile :thumbsup Made that up yourself? Youre such a funny guy!

Jayvis 10-13-2007 01:22 PM

http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/LOL%...Not%20Home.jpg

eroswebmaster 10-13-2007 01:24 PM

whether or not he predicted anything, I don't care.

But to believe that science has figured out our lives / existence, and what there is or isn't in this world, is using just as much blind faith as believing in beings that rise from the dead and walk on water.

I used to know this guy, who I had considered brilliant, until he told me there were no more questions to ask, because science had figured it all out...LOL

fuzebox 10-13-2007 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 13231233)
I think you may be wrong, I think quite a few people were found using those scams.... BUT, the tips that the psychic gave them were probably "the body is near the water", or "the body is in the forest" or some vague crap like that...

They work same way as normal psychic readings, they give what seems like specific information, but really is just vague bullshit "you will live near the water", "you will have problems with your significant other", "I see death in the family" etc etc...

Yes there's a term for it that I forget, but basically professional "psychics" are very good at reading people and leading people to reveal what they want to be told.

minusonebit 10-13-2007 03:20 PM

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/ap/spann...45.hmedium.jpg

minusonebit 10-13-2007 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayvis (Post 13231271)

Thats disturbing. :Oh crap:disgust

Pornopat 10-13-2007 03:45 PM

He knew you would be starting this thread. He never wrote it down though cause he did not give a shit. :2 cents:

aico 10-13-2007 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 13231256)
Are you my new stalker now Polish stopped stalking me? Youre fucking in every fucking thread i make trying to bash me with your bs. Fuck off dumb ape.

ahhhh, did I hurt your widdle feelwings? I don't try, I do, cuz it's so fucking easy. Kind of like making fun of retard.

WarChild 10-13-2007 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 13231300)
Yes there's a term for it that I forget, but basically professional "psychics" are very good at reading people and leading people to reveal what they want to be told.

It's called "Cold Reading".

It's a mixture between reading how someone responds, and fast talking or trickery making what starts as a question end up seeming like a statement, once it's been accepted.

John Edwards of "Crossing Over" fame is a good example.

Xplicit 10-13-2007 04:19 PM

After watching 'decoding nostradamus' im somewhat 50/50 about him.

How he accurately predicted his king would die is pretty crazy.

BUT, it does seem like he wrote SOOOO MUCH STUFF that some of it eventually has to become true, espically since he never said WHEN these things would happen.

So believers get excited when a 'prediction' becomes true, and then claim he's never been wrong because everything else hasnt come true 'yet'.

After Shock Media 10-13-2007 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit (Post 13231940)
After watching 'decoding nostradamus' im somewhat 50/50 about him.

How he accurately predicted his king would die is pretty crazy.

BUT, it does seem like he wrote SOOOO MUCH STUFF that some of it eventually has to become true, espically since he never said WHEN these things would happen.

So believers get excited when a 'prediction' becomes true, and then claim he's never been wrong because everything else hasnt come true 'yet'.


He was smart enough to use repetitive history without a timeline, then write it in a vague way with as few words as possible.
Anyone would be spot on with way more than probility if given such a chance and that much time.
This only really begins to unravel when enough of your predictions begin to repete like they naturally would.

There will always be wars, kings, assassinations, plagues, religious issues, you name it. Just look back some in history and walla you can now write a fairly good prediction book. Just remember to keep it vague and never any dates.

sortie 10-13-2007 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit (Post 13231940)
After watching 'decoding nostradamus' im somewhat 50/50 about him.

How he accurately predicted his king would die is pretty crazy.

BUT, it does seem like he wrote SOOOO MUCH STUFF that some of it eventually has to become true, espically since he never said WHEN these things would happen.

So believers get excited when a 'prediction' becomes true, and then claim he's never been wrong because everything else hasnt come true 'yet'.

Why don't people consider something else besides the "magic" aspect of a psychic.

For example, how about a term like "precise determination" which I just coined. Is it possible for a person to be aware of human nature and circumstances to the point that they can make a precise determination about the events to happen? Everybody can do this for a case where someone says "I'm going to stick my hand in the fire for 2 minutes". We can all precisely determine that this dumb ass is going to the hospital in 5 minutes.
:1orglaugh

The problem comes in when we (meaning you and me) don't have the full information about human nature and circumstances to do this but the other person does. We then call that person a "psychic".

I predicted the US would still be fighting in Iraq in 5 years before the war started. I was not "psychic"! I just recognized the stupid human nature of the idiot in charge and understood the circustances in the middle east that would make Iraqis fight a guerilla war until the end of time. To those who had no clue about the nature/circumstances I would be a phsysic to those who had a clue I would simply have been logical.

wyldworx 10-13-2007 07:10 PM

I am a terrifying OGRE!!!! I am managed by no-one.

wyldworx 10-13-2007 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayvis (Post 13231271)

and you sir, I hope I never meet. Disgusting fucking shit you put in such a trollfull ogrefying thread. FUCK OFF YOU TAMP.:mad::321GFY

dial 10-13-2007 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayvis (Post 13231271)

awesome picture :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

WarChild 10-13-2007 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyldworx (Post 13232375)
I am a terrifying OGRE!!!! I am managed by no-one.

Actually, you're a jackass.

Dirty F 10-14-2007 12:38 PM

There must be many people who believe that shit but for some reason they are afraid to post in this thread i have the feeling.

CyberHustler 10-14-2007 12:52 PM

True story - Every time I picked up a Nostradamus book (3 times) the first and middle names of me, my father and all my brothers were within the first 2 pages. Gave me chills each time. Never bothered reading any more of it though.

KingK7 10-14-2007 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayvis (Post 13231271)

Uhh... I am missing what is funny about this picture...

KingK7 10-14-2007 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dial (Post 13232383)
awesome picture :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What's so awesome about it?
There might be a reference I am not quite getting here, to me it just seems sick and out of place.

minusonebit 10-23-2007 12:43 AM

Dirty Franck

AGS-17 10-23-2007 07:00 AM

It's full shit . i not bellive nastardamus.

StuartD 10-23-2007 07:08 AM

Actually... the best profits that I've ever been amazed by are comic book writers. To think of the cloning, lasers, warfare and space travel when they did... only to see it come to life decades later.

They come out with some pretty wild crap but sometimes they are spot on.

Hell, a Duck Tales comic had an issue where the brothers raised a sunken ship by filling it with ping pong balls.
Years later, it was done in real life!!
http://www.iusmentis.com/patents/priorart/donaldduck/

flowereater 10-23-2007 08:00 AM

i sitll enjoy nostradamus works lol :)

wizhard 10-23-2007 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 13231091)
Thats it. Now move on.

Wait no, then you are a huge fucking imbecile.

:thumbsup


What an enigma Michel Nostradamus remains to this day. For no matter how many times you dismiss his predictions of future world events contained within his famous quatrains and sestets there is however an undeniable syncronicity between them and the historical record of past events that occured after his death.

His critics are quick to point out that his predictions are in the main so abstract and seemingly vague that they could be made to fit any number of events depending on how you interpret them, however his supporters retort by pointing out the following facts ;

A. Nostradamus was forced to use a highly criptic code for his predictions as at the time he lived the Catholic Church was at the high of it's repressive powers and anyone even attempting to pass themselves of as any kind of prophet or seer would have quickly incurred their rath, ( however there is evidence that Henry 11 of France was in constant contact secretly with Nostardamus throughout much of his life ).

B. Linguistics - language changes over time. Nostradamus wrote in the old French, which can often suffer from the confusion of one word having several meanings.

Over the years since his death there has been countless books written about his life and works and each one of them generally claims to be more authortive than the rest when in truth even the better ones are little more than hindsight and guesswork.

If his supporters have got it right then we have got quite a nasty ol time ahead of us in the near future culminating in a third world war of vast proportions and grisly consequences for much of mankind, LOL, but I would'nt worry too much as what other famous historical figures have made idiots of themselves by spouting all manner of apocalyptic prophesis that failed to come true I wonder :winkwink:


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