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Shap 10-04-2007 01:55 PM

Wow! How is Weg Cash getting staying under 1% chargebacks with this scam?
 
So I see WEG cash pin their announcement about free trials. So i check it out to see what they are doing. Just as their surfers would do I click the join button and here is the signup form i get....

http://www.twistyspreviews.com/wtf.jpg

So the surfers get here after clicking a page that says FREE Trial.

They are getting a free trial (which renews at $39.17) but wait that's not all

they also get a nice pre-checked cross sell for 3 days that costs $1.37 and renews and $34.86
AS WELL as another 3 day free trial that renews at $39.37.

To summarize the surfer who thought they were getting a free trial is really getting access to 3 different sites for $1.37 for 3 days and will be billed $113.40 in 3 days time.

So I guess my question is wtf how are they doing this and staying under 1% chargebacks? The interesting thing is vipweb.com and xxxpass.com look like two bullshit sites run by either them or some other big pps company trying to bang out charges back and forth with WEG.

Dirty F 10-04-2007 01:58 PM

Welcome to the internet. First time you see this?

xNetworx 10-04-2007 01:58 PM

Why is it a "scam"?

Dirty F 10-04-2007 01:58 PM

I think the first time ive seen it was 1998 or so :)

Pipecrew 10-04-2007 02:00 PM

the customer service is probably issuing refunds no questions asked, kinda like clickcash does.

tony286 10-04-2007 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn (Post 13187795)
Why is it a "scam"?

not a scam but not cool because for the most part surfers dont read and thats why prechecked cross sales work and thats why we have a 1% cb ratio because of all the people that charged back when getting all these charges they didnt read about.

Shap 10-04-2007 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 13187801)
the customer service is probably issuing refunds no questions asked, kinda like clickcash does.

Yeah no doubt. And I'm sure they have a number of merchant accounts set up and ready to go to bounce business around if they lose one merchant account.

Shap 10-04-2007 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13187804)
not a scam but not cool because for the most part surfers dont read and thats why prechecked cross sales work and thats why we have a 1% cb ratio because of all the people that charged back when getting all these charges they didnt read about.

Exactly.

Penny24Seven 10-04-2007 02:06 PM

I think more people pay attention to that then before but still probably lots that are typing with their dick out and do not see it either. Kinda like asking out every girl in the club and hope one goes home with you. They have it prechecked and hope some do not ask for refunds

Shap 10-04-2007 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hookers and School Girls (Post 13187822)
I think more people pay attention to that then before but still probably lots that are typing with their dick out and do not see it either. Kinda like asking out every girl in the club and hope one goes home with you. They have it prechecked and hope some do not ask for refunds

Of course. If this practice was not high risk than ccbill and paycom would gladly let everyone do it. I'm sure if you asked rand or ron they would not touch a billing option like this.

Timbo 10-04-2007 02:08 PM

I'm speechless at this moment.

Violetta 10-04-2007 02:12 PM

wouldnt call it a scam.

Shap 10-04-2007 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockatansky (Post 13187848)
wouldnt call it a scam.

I bet if you were a surfer and joined the site you would.

Mohawk Steve 10-04-2007 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13187830)
Of course. If this practice was not high risk than ccbill and paycom would gladly let everyone do it. I'm sure if you asked rand or ron they would not touch a billing option like this.

I've seen dual pre-checked cross sales on sites that process with the Big 2 before.

Jman 10-04-2007 02:16 PM

Make money now, don't wait for tomorrow...

Like Franck posted it's been the nature of this beast since back in the days, hell back in the days it was even worst.

Shap 10-04-2007 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve PP (Post 13187859)
I've seen dual pre-checked cross sales on sites that process with the Big 2 before.

Agreed. But not advertised as a free trial with a paid trial snuck in as a pre-checked cross sell. That's low.

Mutt 10-04-2007 02:18 PM

it's 1998 all over again! shady is in again shap!

Shap 10-04-2007 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 13187872)
it's 1998 all over again! shady is in again shap!

No shit. I get the feeling these older pps companies are dipping into their old bag of tricks to drum up business. I'm sure spam is still good for them but not as good as it once was so they have to go back to what works for them, deceiving surfers.

BradM 10-04-2007 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13187854)
I bet if you were a surfer and joined the site you would.

Why do you think no one signs up for porn anymore and they all leech torrents?

I wouldn't trust us slimeball FUCKS either?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-04-2007 02:27 PM

Shap whats happened to you dude?

When we were at XPICS ya didnt have many qualms about that sort of thing.

A little business advice.
Mind your own...

Shap 10-04-2007 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM (Post 13187899)
Why do you think no one signs up for porn anymore and they all leech torrents?

I wouldn't trust us slimeball FUCKS either?

I know. Shortminded greedy pigs ruin it for the hard working companies that actually produce something of value.

Shap 10-04-2007 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13187914)
Shap whats happened to you dude?

When we were at XPICS ya didnt have many qualms about that sort of thing.

Some business advice.
Mind your own...

When I was at xpics i was exposed to this bs. When I left xpics I made sure my clients (surfers) were never treated that way.

No offense but I don't need any business advice.

Jason 10-04-2007 02:35 PM

:1orglaugh

123456787

BradM 10-04-2007 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13187930)
When I was at xpics i was exposed to this bs. When I left xpics I made sure my clients (surfers) were never treated that way.

No offense but I don't need any business advice.

I wouldn't take advice from Alien on anything. He was begging for rent money not too long ago now he is back to his usual "I am king" mode.

Alien you're a degenerate douche.

Shap: Glad one of the big boys gets it. Too bad you're in a TRAGIC minority group.

makefuckingmoney 10-04-2007 02:40 PM

im just as dumb..i clicked sexape in your sig and thought you were pushing beastiality!

does that get a lot of beastiality clicks?

Shap 10-04-2007 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney (Post 13187965)
im just as dumb..i clicked sexape in your sig and thought you were pushing beastiality!

does that get a lot of beastiality clicks?

None that i know of.

Hank_Heartland 10-04-2007 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockatansky (Post 13187848)
wouldnt call it a scam.

Bet those surfers will never ever buy another adult site:thumbsup

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn:1orglaugh

makefuckingmoney 10-04-2007 02:46 PM

3 days to 3 different sites for 1.37 is not a bad deal. i usually pay more for just 1 site.

is there any others you would recommend? im always looking for a better buy.

JD 10-04-2007 02:47 PM

i'm just sexy...

BradShaw 10-04-2007 02:47 PM

Who says you have to stay under 1%? You must not be a member of the tribe, they all have special processing!

Mutt 10-04-2007 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13187889)
No shit. I get the feeling these older pps companies are dipping into their old bag of tricks to drum up business. I'm sure spam is still good for them but not as good as it once was so they have to go back to what works for them, deceiving surfers.

oh they are - lots of old school people have come back into the industry. it really is 1998 again.

Shap 10-04-2007 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney (Post 13187998)
3 days to 3 different sites for 1.37 is not a bad deal. i usually pay more for just 1 site.

is there any others you would recommend? im always looking for a better buy.

If it's such a great deal why won't paycom and ccbill let me run that offer to my surfers?

Juicy D. Links 10-04-2007 02:49 PM

can i post a gratuitiuos self pic of myself now?

Doctor Dre 10-04-2007 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13187914)
Shap whats happened to you dude?

When we were at XPICS ya didnt have many qualms about that sort of thing.

A little business advice.
Mind your own...

Funny how you are ALWAYS minding other people's business... non stop.

You are giving biz advice to all the big boys out there, yet you were sucking cock for rent money a couple months ago.

Are you even aware of how stupid you look ?

aico 10-04-2007 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13187854)
I bet if you were a surfer and joined the site you would.

According to the XBiz survey, 60% of surfers already believe free trials or $1 trials are scams, and 37% say it's "Not worth the effort".

Shap 10-04-2007 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw (Post 13188005)
Who says you have to stay under 1%? You must not be a member of the tribe, they all have special processing!

Good point.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-04-2007 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13187930)
When I was at xpics i was exposed to this bs. When I left xpics I made sure my clients (surfers) were never treated that way.

No offense but I don't need any business advice.

Umm yeah you do...:1orglaugh
Or you wouldnt have made this thread.

RichC 10-04-2007 02:53 PM

yawn
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fbM9EP2G0LM

sextoyking 10-04-2007 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney (Post 13187998)
3 days to 3 different sites for 1.37 is not a bad deal. i usually pay more for just 1 site.

is there any others you would recommend? im always looking for a better buy.


Better Buy, LOL :)

Swish 10-04-2007 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13187854)
I bet if you were a surfer and joined the site you would.

Maybe they should read things before they enter their card info.

If you get a credit card and don't read the fine print that says your APR will increase after x amount of time does that make it a scam? No. As a consumer it is your responsibility to be certain about what you're getting.

makefuckingmoney 10-04-2007 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13188021)
If it's such a great deal why won't paycom and ccbill let me run that offer to my surfers?

you mean the lowest trial they will let you run is $24.95 on twistys? wow that does seem outrageous. I didn't know it was like that against you guys. I would be pissed at Wedg too.

NinjaSteve 10-04-2007 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13187804)
not a scam but not cool because for the most part surfers dont read and thats why prechecked cross sales work and thats why we have a 1% cb ratio because of all the people that charged back when getting all these charges they didnt read about.

It is the responsibility of the consumer to read the terms before they join. Nothing is hidden on adult join forms and it's as easy as clicking a check box. Why would a consumer not read what they're buying on the join form? That's pretty dumb of them.

Shap 10-04-2007 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichC (Post 13188039)

LOL Damn the weg cash fan club is logging on to come to their defense. I'm honored my thread was important enough for you to make your 3rd useless post of the year here.

uno 10-04-2007 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13187914)
A little business advice.
Mind your own...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Need... to... breathe...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Yes Shap, please take business advice from Alien. We all know how miserably you have failed at everything you do and could sure use his priceless advice.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

fuzebox 10-04-2007 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13187786)
To summarize the surfer who thought they were getting a free trial is really getting access to 3 different sites for $1.37 for 3 days and will be billed $113.40 in 3 days time.

The industry was built on bullshit like that... I can't believe people are still doing it :(

peterk 10-04-2007 02:56 PM

Many sponsors are using this system and it is not a scam :)

Timbo 10-04-2007 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13188021)
If it's such a great deal why won't paycom and ccbill let me run that offer to my surfers?

hahahaha
Shap,

My, my, how vocal you have been this week about how other people should run their businesses. Torrents, cross sales, what's next? Let me tell you how this works.

a.) read the join form and uncheck the boxes
b.) read the join form and uncheck the boxes

Keyword here, is read. Did that help? :thumbsup

Jace 10-04-2007 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13187914)
Shap whats happened to you dude?

When we were at XPICS ya didnt have many qualms about that sort of thing.

A little business advice.
Mind your own...

are you fucking serious?

Shap 10-04-2007 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney (Post 13188045)
you mean the lowest trial they will let you run is $24.95 on twistys? wow that does seem outrageous. I didn't know it was like that against you guys. I would be pissed at Wedg too.

Nice way to take my comment in an entirely different direction. You know exactly what I was saying and couldn't reply. Tell me if a free trial as well as a cross checked free trial and a $1.37 trial are such a great deal why won't paycom and ccbill let you and I run that offer?

Shap 10-04-2007 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 13188059)
hahahaha
Shap,

My, my, how vocal you have been this week about how other people should run their businesses. Torrents, cross sales, what's next? Let me tell you how this works.

a.) read the join form and uncheck the boxes
b.) read the join form and uncheck the boxes

Keyword here, is read. Did that help? :thumbsup

You sat here for that long and that was the best reply you could come up with? Wow. If that's the case again why won't paycom and ccbill allow their clients to run that type of offer?


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