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tony286 09-26-2007 04:54 PM

13,000 taxpayers to face special IRS audit
 
13,000 taxpayers to face special IRS audit

By EILEEN ALT POWELL
Associated Press
Published on: 09/26/07

New York ? Starting in October, hundreds of Americans will be getting "Dear Taxpayer" letters telling them they've been selected for a special audit by the Internal Revenue Service.

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The 13,000 chosen at random this year ? and similar numbers in subsequent years ? are part of the tax agency's National Research Program, which is designed to give the IRS a better understanding of how accurately income and deductions are reported and to reduce the so-called tax gap.

The tax gap, which is the difference between what taxpayers should have paid and what they actually did pay, is of growing concern because it's so big.

Earlier IRS research, which looked at about 46,000 individual tax returns for tax year 2001, found a $345 billion shortfall in tax money. After enforcement actions and late payments, that was reduced to about $290 billion ? a still-worrisome number.

The special audits will be used to help the IRS update the criteria for selecting tax returns for annual compliance audits, said Mark Mazur, the IRS director for research, analysis and statistics in Washington, D.C. Last year, some 1.2 million taxpayers were audited, the IRS said.

"That will allow the IRS to do a better job of choosing taxpayers for audit who have a higher probability of errors on their returns," he said.

This will help the agency function more efficiently and reduce the odds of burdening law-abiding citizens, he said.

"The data also can help us determine if there's a need to change the law, outreach programs or enforcement practices," Mazur added.

Mazur said that some of the noncompliance stems from taxpayers failing to pay what they actually calculated that they owed in taxes or failing to file at all. But the greatest problem, responsible for about 80 percent of the tax gap, comes from underreporting.

"That's where taxpayers put the wrong numbers down for tax liability compared to what they owe under the tax code," he said. People who work in restaurants might underreport tip income, for example, or sole proprietors might take business deductions for personal expenses.

Sometimes mistakes are accidental, Mazur said, noting that "not everyone is good at math, and some of the tax code can be complicated." At the same time, he added, the agency has to watch out for "things that look like they're not unintentional and where, at the extreme, you have criminal activity."

Mark Luscombe, principal tax analyst at CCH Inc. of Riverwoods, Ill., said the new IRS research program was designed to help officials at the IRS walk a fine line in updating statistics without upsetting taxpayers. The company, a division of Wolters Kluwer, provides tax information and services to tax professionals.

"They don't want to go back to the late 1990s, when Congress complained that the IRS was ruining peoples' lives with intrusive audits ... but they also need to improve its statistics," he said. "So they're doing fewer (special audits) but on a more frequent basis ? about 13,000 a year."

Some audits won't be apparent

In some cases, taxpayers selected for special audit won't know about them because their income and deductions can be verified by the IRS from third-party documents, such as W-2 wage statements and Form 1099 interest payment statements.

In other cases, they may be asked by the IRS for information to support their income and deduction claims, such as receipts for charitable contributions, Luscombe said.

In still others, they'll be called in to sit down with IRS examiners and go over the tax forms line by line.

"If you're one of the unlucky ones called for an in-person audit, you might want to get in touch with a tax professional who has experience in dealing with the IRS," he said.

Luscombe noted that compliance is best when income is subject to withholding by employers or confirmed by third-party reports, such as the tax forms supplied by banks and brokers to taxpayers and the IRS that detail interest payments and capital gains.

"What they find in the audits could lead to requests for more" third-party verification, he said.

Should taxpayers be worried?

"In most cases, no," Luscombe said. "But, let's face it. The IRS doesn't mind if people are a little nervous."

Unfortunately, if the IRS finds a mistake on a tax form during the course of a special audit, the taxpayer will be liable for increased tax payment and penalties, the IRS said.

LiveDose 09-26-2007 05:04 PM

Funny how they would never contact people if they overpaid. By that meaning people who don't take all the deductions they could...

woj 09-26-2007 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 13148961)
Funny how they would never contact people if they overpaid. By that meaning people who don't take all the deductions they could...

Actually, they do, few years ago my mom screwed up something on her taxes and actually got a letter saying she made a mistake and got a check back for a few bucks....

Spike D 09-26-2007 05:59 PM

Another reason the fair tax needs to be adopted...A national retail sales tax and no more audits....

Fair Tax

Worth looking into....

JD 09-26-2007 06:01 PM

what's REALLY funny is there's no law saying we HAVE to pay income tax.... fucking bullshit.

MikesTraffic 09-26-2007 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 13149145)
what's REALLY funny is there's no law saying we HAVE to pay income tax.... fucking bullshit.

There is no original law saying we have to pay taxes, but after some major issues arose during war time and our exports got cut, they amended the rules to allow taxes since we weren't making money on tarrifs anymore. It's amazing how a government will change something from being unconstitutional to REQUIRED all because they are getting the fat bank they used to

Sosa 09-26-2007 06:15 PM

taxes blow

Matt 26z 09-26-2007 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike D (Post 13149141)
Another reason the fair tax needs to be adopted...A national retail sales tax and no more audits....

Fair Tax

Worth looking into....

The bureaucracy that is the US government could never implement such a radical change in how we pay taxes.

tony286 09-26-2007 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 13149299)
The bureaucracy that is the US government could never implement such a radical change in how we pay taxes.

The sad truth:(

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 09-26-2007 06:49 PM

Well I'm Canadian... so I will not say anything... ^^

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minusonebit 09-26-2007 06:57 PM

The funny part about it is, the income tax does not apply to most Americans. See Sec 861 and/or call Larkin Rose.

minusonebit 09-26-2007 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike D (Post 13149141)
Another reason the fair tax needs to be adopted...A national retail sales tax and no more audits....

Fair Tax

Worth looking into....

The "Fair Tax" is bullshit. Sales taxes are just another way of shouldering the tax burden to the middle and lower classes, and finish off the process of making for-profit corporations enterprises that pay no taxes, for the few that still do pay taxes anymore.

After Shock Media 09-26-2007 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13149368)
The "Fair Tax" is bullshit. Sales taxes are just another way of shouldering the tax burden to the middle and lower classes, and finish off the process of making for-profit corporations enterprises that pay no taxes, for the few that still do pay taxes anymore.

It would be a hell of an improvement. It would also tax a great deal of underground money. Then sure there would be some loopholes who fucking cares.

tony286 09-26-2007 07:07 PM

Wouldnt want the flat tax to happen unless they repealed income tax. Dont want to wind up in a few years oh got to start the income tax back up.

D 09-26-2007 07:09 PM

Joy.

This reminds me of that short story, "The Lottery."

pocketkangaroo 09-26-2007 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13149368)
The "Fair Tax" is bullshit. Sales taxes are just another way of shouldering the tax burden to the middle and lower classes, and finish off the process of making for-profit corporations enterprises that pay no taxes, for the few that still do pay taxes anymore.

You mean it would require people to actually pay taxes. 40% of our country doesn't owe a dime to the government. The top percent pays almost everything.

pocketkangaroo 09-26-2007 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike D (Post 13149141)
Another reason the fair tax needs to be adopted...A national retail sales tax and no more audits....

Fair Tax

Worth looking into....

The Fair Tax would destroy the new sales of a ton of things. People would start buying used cars, homes, etc. Would stunt the growth of our economy.

Spike D 09-26-2007 07:40 PM

Before you start slamming away, at least take the time to read about what it this is all about White Paper

There would be no income tax, the black markets would be now taxed, and we would be able to say goodbye to the IRS. The biggest obstacle would be politicians, who would lose huge power by being able to manipulate the tax code to special interests advantage. It takes an large amount of power away from the government, which we are in need of..IMHO

tony286 09-26-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike D (Post 13149529)
Before you start slamming away, at least take the time to read about what it this is all about White Paper

There would be no income tax, the black markets would be now taxed, and we would be able to say goodbye to the IRS. The biggest obstacle would be politicians, who would lose huge power by being able to manipulate the tax code to special interests advantage. It takes an large amount of power away from the government, which we are in need of..IMHO

I read boortz's book there are lots of holes and lots of we think it might happen. Also it make used the way to go on everything. I also highly doubt if corporations dont have to pay taxes they will drop prices. Most dont pay taxes now and they arent giving away shit.

Spike D 09-26-2007 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13149552)
I read boortz's book there are lots of holes and lots of we think it might happen. Also it make used the way to go on everything. I also highly doubt if corporations dont have to pay taxes they will drop prices. Most dont pay taxes now and they arent giving away shit.

I definitely agree there are holes and it is far from perfect. But we do have some pretty good sized states with no state income tax, and since almost all loopholes if not all will disappear, and since my frustration levels with politicians has been maxed out for while, any reduction in government is a good thing in my eyes. The tax code and the IRS has become almost intolerable. (Adds self to the list of the 13,000....:1orglaugh)

pocketkangaroo 09-26-2007 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike D (Post 13149529)
Before you start slamming away, at least take the time to read about what it this is all about White Paper

There would be no income tax, the black markets would be now taxed, and we would be able to say goodbye to the IRS. The biggest obstacle would be politicians, who would lose huge power by being able to manipulate the tax code to special interests advantage. It takes an large amount of power away from the government, which we are in need of..IMHO

But how do you grow an economy that penalizes you for buying new products. People would simply buy everything they can used.

Wouldn't it also just be a cute way of elminating corporate taxes and causing a huge underground economy?

FreeHugeMovies 09-26-2007 08:02 PM

For those who have S corps, here is a good read.


http://www.aicpa.org/pubs/jofa/sep20...orporation.htm

Barefootsies 09-26-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 13149125)
Actually, they do, few years ago my mom screwed up something on her taxes and actually got a letter saying she made a mistake and got a check back for a few bucks....

Yep. I've had the same. A good ten years or more back in college I did not claim something or whatever. I received a $240 credit.

Peaches 09-26-2007 08:40 PM

I've been audited twice and both times the IRS owed me money. I'd love another one :)


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