Whats the current view on people who steal affi data from company #1,
 

then take it to company #2?












Just wondering, I can't keep up with the hypocrisy these days.

is this more retaliation?

or a serious question...


and define steal... members and affiliate lists? emails? or just a rolodex of connects?


honest to god info is one thing, but general gleened know how and whos who is another..


whats on the plate?

Affi info, and a whole lot of #'s. For a year or so. :)


I dunno wtf you mean by retaliation, it's a question.

I dunno but it happens all the fucking time. I get so many spams to "[email protected]"

is this hypothetical or is there a base to it?

like... if I asked the question... Did alleged thief go on to be employed by or supply direct competition with said info?

would you have more info? or just curioous?

Hypothetically, this is not an email list. It's affi ids with DETAILED sales data.



I have to go eat now. I'll pop in later.

hypothetically, is this alleged thief someone you once called friend?

I hate hypothetical questions...where's the beef?

On my stovetop. I'll let you know later how it tasted.

hi guys... sounds serious, just commenting to bookmark this thread so i can check it later :thumbsup

IMO, the intellectual property, which in this case is the aff ID's and associated data belong to the company owning the site in which they signed up for. Any employee, former owner, parter , or otherwise, would be stealing if they knowingly took a copy of that information and used it for their own purposes. Pretty cut and dry.:2 cents:

However, I should add that if the intellectual property was collected BY the "employee, parter, etc." themselves as independent consultants while on contract with the "company" that the contact information (NOT sales data) could legally be retained by that independent consultant on the grounds that they are personal contacts and were gathered for that consultant's own business and shared with the "company" at the time of sale.:2 cents:

Again, IMO. Legally in a court there would have to be more information as to the circumstances, technique, and conditions of the gathering of that information.

About what I thought. Thanks for a troll free answer to the question.

Hey... im serious, im not trolling here Jim... except the friend question... i gues syou could consider that... just me playing sherlock again...

deducting shit..

I just wanted to know if it was our ole friend youre talking about


I just wonder if youre trying to get serious info or discredit someone...


seriously... can we play nice jim?

We can play nice anytime you want. I've written our recent drama off as either miscommunication or drunkeness on someones part. I don't hate you, but I'm annoyed. Dunno wtf else to say man.

I'm asking a question in this thread and that's pretty much it. For now.

You can write it off as such. Just know this in the end, Im honest and Im right.

If I had an inkling of a doubt on my end I would never have even attempted to defame you.

There are plenty of people here, some with bar raising companies that owe me well over that.

it was never about the cash...


Done


about this.





is this about your ole buddy or not?

is this serious or are you attempting to bring out discrediting info upon another attempting to defame you? Or are you cleaning house where you are now?


simple... im curious...

Your questions are serious.

See im keeping a poll on whats relative and whats chalked up drama...

I have to know what to put in the report.

I have a case of file folders here on GFY... you even have your own... right next to Juicy... Juicy's smells good... yours is just thick.

Bark Bark

well, I know we have had our member list jacked by 2 employees in the past, it sucks.. kind of the price you pay when you trust people... kind of why i dont trust anyone anymore in this business.

personally I dont agre with taking data from one company to the next, I dont mix businesses together, it tends to end up fucking things up in the end.

however, if someone from company a fucked you, and you want to get even, then take it and sell it to company b ;)

thats exactly what i would do!!!

Ray I think you are wrong on this one...Any info that a company collect from company A that it considers proprietary that company B distributes can be sued on.

I know of numerous consultants and market research firms that have been sued and lost or settled over second and third party proprietary sales info:helpme

np, it's a huge problem in this business. In any business actually. And it's hard to stop it from happening.

Look here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Trade_Secrets_Act

:)

And if I was company a I would sue your ass off just like Ron Levy did a few times:thumbsup

umm, ron levi never sued us you moron. wtf are you talking about?

he sued eric suchomski in which we helped ron by providing him information and statments about eric and his activities.

No need to start name calling:( Maybe I didn't make myself clear...I didn't say Ron sued you dumpass...I said sued a few times:thumbsup

I'm cleaning house in general. I'm sick to fucking DEATH of being lied to, lied about, used and trolled on a whim by people I've been NOTHING but loyal to simply so they can cover their own ass. The way I figure it; I'm not long for this mortal coil or this fucking cesspool of an industry anyway, so why not just clear the air so to speak?

I'm just getting started.

Good answer...


Ill just sit n watch as I stated before, I have nothing to fear nor hide...


(taking notes)

Loyality don't mean shit to alot of people in this world...you should have learned that by now:thumbsup

I think Imma become a farmer. At least you can scrape the bullshit off your boot at the end of the day and start fresh the next morning instead of having to live with the same old stench day in and out.

I should of. I didn't. If anyone wants to troll me on that feel free. It's deserved.

Think so...wait til the bankers get through raping your ass on the farm:(

the way you worded implied we got sued.
choose your wordd better next time

god damn man... cry about it..

you are involved in more drama then even me, man...

at least when i had drama it was always for an amount over a few grand..

you're pissing and moaning, and involved in so much drama for amounts that are all under 50 bucks...

get off the computer and start hustling already... unless you wanna hit 50 and be broke

Trey you and I have been around a longtime...You also know that I know who got sued and who didn't.

You also know that I didn't mean to imply that you got sued by Ron, so let it go cause there is no shit to start here:thumbsup

The current and all-time view is that they are thieves - they were thieves while employed by X company and probably stole more than data and can't be trusted with shit.

That said, it's obvious there is a lack of security in web-based businesses in that people can have complete access to large elements of data - and the adult industry is not alone. Talk has been cheap re data protection.

A couple of months back I sat and watched a techie theif who supposed to be doing additional network installation - he elected to burn a few CD's for some reason which contained a large amount of gaming client data which would be worth a lot in the right hands. Obviously this was needed to install networks :pimp (He was intercepted and dealt with - so no harm done)

This has nothing to do with money.

Neither did any of the late drama...

Nice, Sweet Justice!