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Sam I Am 09-18-2007 10:12 AM

Are there others sponsors besides Top Bucks doing this?
 
I received the email below from Top Bucks and was shocked. Are there others Sponsors besides Top Bucks that are proactively going after
webmasters using trojans, etc AND actually refunding the sales back to the correct webmaster? It makes me concerned about my ratios at other sponsors.

Recently during a routine analysis of our webmasters, we identified some unusual activity from one of our webmasters. It appears that over the past 90 days, a certain webmaster utilized a Trojan to target some of the TopBucks webmasters traffic.

Rest assured, we have located missing sales and you will be issued a payment of $1290. We have taken action against this webmaster and we will continue to monitor and payout any future sales to webmasters that may have been affected.

Furthermore, we believe that the anti-virus software companies have identified and implemented a program to prevent this Trojan from attacking end users machines in the future.

Thank you and please feel free to contact us with any questions.

Best Regards,

Jenn
Operations Supervisor
TopBucks
ICQ: 168289515

gleem 09-18-2007 10:32 AM

wow! that's insane!

PainThing 09-18-2007 12:19 PM

sounds like Zango or something similar

Phoenix 09-18-2007 12:24 PM

one of the many reasons topbucks is at the top:)

gandalfuy 09-18-2007 01:39 PM

thats not looking good!

mpahlca 09-18-2007 01:49 PM

Twistys/Shapcash and a few others for sure all do that

JFK 09-18-2007 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 13105809)
one of the many reasons topbucks is at the top:)

YUP:thumbsup

FreeHugeMovies 09-18-2007 02:06 PM

Topbucks doesn't take shit and they are in this biz for the long haul.

bigalownz 09-18-2007 11:21 PM

some other company got hacked a few months ago too

p1mpdogg 09-18-2007 11:22 PM

Epic Cash does this, but we do not feel the need to brag aobut it to everyone.


EpicCash rocks and we have our affiliates backs. always all the time rain or shine.

FilthyRob 09-18-2007 11:23 PM

I hate those hijacker mother fuckers that steal money from others hard work.

JD 09-18-2007 11:33 PM

holy shit...

Sam I Am 09-19-2007 02:26 PM

So that's it.... Only 3 sponsors actively refunding sales to the correct webmaster? I was hoping there would be more :-| I know there are sponsors who are shutting down accounts for this but I had never heard of a sponsor actually tracking down who was the correct recipient of the sales and paying them for the stolen sales.

Tempest 09-19-2007 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam I Am (Post 13111815)
So that's it.... Only 3 sponsors actively refunding sales to the correct webmaster? I was hoping there would be more :-| I know there are sponsors who are shutting down accounts for this but I had never heard of a sponsor actually tracking down who was the correct recipient of the sales and paying them for the stolen sales.

I asked someone "in the know" this type of question while ago.. Basically I asked that if a program discovered that there was something wrong with their system that wasn't crediting affiliates properly etc. would most of them do the right thing by their affiliates... he laughed..

sortie 09-19-2007 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13108468)
Epic Cash does this, but we do not feel the need to brag aobut it to everyone.


EpicCash rocks and we have our affiliates backs. always all the time rain or shine.

Top Bucks wasn't bragging.

StarkReality 09-19-2007 05:17 PM

Let's face it, the number of users infected by these kinds of affiliate code changing trojans should be a not too small seven digit number and the question is no longer which sponsors are affected and which are not...it's which programs recognize it and take steps against it and which just sit there and don't care or don't recognize it, since overall sales won't change.

It's an industry wide problem and I'm happy Top Bucks steps up to fight it.

What really makes me mad is that most TGP owners ignore this problem because they don't care for their traffic quality, just for quantity and selling submitter accounts. All those sites made to infect users rank high for a broad variety for heavy traffic keywords in google and other searchengines and once surfers is infected, they are sent to TGPs to get fresh traffic to infect back.

It's millions stolen out of affiliate pockets every day in the industry, not just a few script kiddies making a few thousand a month !

Sam I Am 09-19-2007 05:43 PM

this is disappointing. i was hoping to hear that the bigger sponsors like Nasty Dollars, BangBros, Brazzers, Traffic Cash, PimpRoll, etc were doing this.

JD 09-19-2007 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam I Am (Post 13113001)
this is disappointing. i was hoping to hear that the bigger sponsors like Nasty Dollars, BangBros, Brazzers, Traffic Cash, PimpRoll, etc were doing this.

dude... they don't care and never will :Oh crap

Matt 26z 09-19-2007 05:52 PM

Governments all around the world are seriously lagging in getting laws out there that make this software illegal in the first place.

xxxjay 09-19-2007 06:10 PM

Topbucks...they is standup guys (and gals) - what can I say?

Trixxxia 09-19-2007 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13108468)
Epic Cash does this, but we do not feel the need to brag aobut it to everyone.


EpicCash rocks and we have our affiliates backs. always all the time rain or shine.

Trey, Trey, Trey, twisting and turning things to make it ALL about you! :)

If there is one program that doesn't go around tooting their horn and getting loud on boards, it's Topbucks. They didn't 'feel the need' to post anything - they did, however, have to contact the affiliates concerned - or they would have questioned why they were getting extra money.

If there's one large company that has their affiliates' back, it's Topbucks. Having worked there for 3 years - take my word for it. No need for fanfare - actions speak louder than words. I can tell you that they proactively work to analyze all threats/issues and take corrective measures.

As for the other program that had a similar issue, I know NaughtyAmerica also did the same.

amateurcanada 09-19-2007 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trixxxia (Post 13113577)
Trey, Trey, Trey, twisting and turning things to make it ALL about you! :)

If there is one program that doesn't go around tooting their horn and getting loud on boards, it's Topbucks. They didn't 'feel the need' to post anything - they did, however, have to contact the affiliates concerned - or they would have questioned why they were getting extra money.

If there's one large company that has their affiliates' back, it's Topbucks. Having worked there for 3 years - take my word for it. No need for fanfare - actions speak louder than words. I can tell you that they proactively work to analyze all threats/issues and take corrective measures.

As for the other program that had a similar issue, I know NaughtyAmerica also did the same.


Ouch, why don't I get such praise ;) lol

SmokeyTheBear 09-19-2007 11:33 PM

good going topbucks..

this is one of very few threads that make me want to promote a sponsor

SmokeyTheBear 09-19-2007 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13108468)
Epic Cash does this, but we do not feel the need to brag aobut it to everyone.

they didnt they informed an affiliate why he was recieving cash.

the only sponsor that has tried to brag about it so far is umm you. :winkwink:

Cash 09-20-2007 12:01 AM

I didn't know about this, but if so, TB rocks!

BOSS1 09-20-2007 12:04 AM

good stuff topbucks for raising the bar :)

u-Bob 09-20-2007 03:32 AM

:thumbsup:thumbsup

StarkReality 09-20-2007 03:59 AM

I know other sponsors did it and do it as well, but it's like the posting of exploits: Even if it's bragging, it's creates public attention, increases awareness about this problem and forces reactions.

Most program owners probably know about these trojans for a long time, and it's really appreciated if they silently fight the problem and just tell their affiliates...but without more awareness among affiliates, the programs that don't care will never even consider stepping up, too.

So, even if chances are slight, it's certainly a good idea to push this topic on the boards as much as possible, it should be a standard question to your affiliate manager how they handle this kind of theft.

Sam I Am 09-20-2007 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkReality (Post 13114726)
I know other sponsors did it and do it as well, but it's like the posting of exploits: Even if it's bragging, it's creates public attention, increases awareness about this problem and forces reactions.

Most program owners probably know about these trojans for a long time, and it's really appreciated if they silently fight the problem and just tell their affiliates...but without more awareness among affiliates, the programs that don't care will never even consider stepping up, too.

So, even if chances are slight, it's certainly a good idea to push this topic on the boards as much as possible, it should be a standard question to your affiliate manager how they handle this kind of theft.

Very well spoken and that's a great idea. I'm going to start contacting my sales reps at sponsors to find out how they are handling trojans.

tranza 09-20-2007 07:42 AM

Damn, I wish I had received an e-mail like that too.

Maybe I should contact my rep to take a look over this issue too??

Trixxxia 09-20-2007 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkReality (Post 13114726)
I know other sponsors did it and do it as well, but it's like the posting of exploits: Even if it's bragging, it's creates public attention, increases awareness about this problem and forces reactions.

Most program owners probably know about these trojans for a long time, and it's really appreciated if they silently fight the problem and just tell their affiliates...but without more awareness among affiliates, the programs that don't care will never even consider stepping up, too.

So, even if chances are slight, it's certainly a good idea to push this topic on the boards as much as possible, it should be a standard question to your affiliate manager how they handle this kind of theft.

Actually - you should be asking every program how they handle ANY kind of threat to your income.

As for public awareness - I think this year is the year that affiliates and sponsors alike have removed their sideblinders and are doing something about it - although they've been on the boards, described in full detail what is done and how to prevent it for over two years. Not everyone 'wants' to do something about it. It's up to you to promote who, with the responses to your questions, is going to look after your best interests.

Tranza - I know they meticulously reviewed and credited the proper affiliates in this case, should you feel that there is ever something amiss, you should get in contact with your rep. I know not everyone wants to deal with their reps, but the truth is, when you're in constant contact with your rep, you get more insight on what the trends are, advanced notice on new sites and basically, you're filled in more than your weekly/monthly/holiday email that lands in your spam box and you get to read after the fact.


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