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sortie 09-15-2007 06:51 PM

Intersting fact about World Trade Center.
 
Larry_Silverstein basically owned the WTC which he acquired only weeks before Sept 11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein
Quote:

Silverstein's bid for the lease to the World Trade Center was accepted on July 24, 2001, seven weeks before the buildings were destroyed in the September 11, 2001 attacks.
He says he decided to "pull" building 7 on Sept 11.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32340306101329

One hell of a job to set up a demolition in the middle of chaos.
I wonder if he had a demolition permit. I also wish I knew how to get such a permit on such short notice.

sortie 09-15-2007 06:53 PM

He also skipped a planned metting at a restaurant in the World Trade Center on Sept 11. All that did make the meeting died.

dav3 09-15-2007 06:53 PM

Interesting indeed.

DaddyHalbucks 09-15-2007 07:48 PM

Chance and innuendo.

dav3 09-15-2007 07:57 PM

http://www.yellowcakewalk.net/images/bush_sheep.jpg

warlock5 09-15-2007 08:43 PM

Clearly this is evidence of a Jewish-Bush conspiracy.

And when the phone rang just as I sat down on the toilet to take a huge shit was proof that the person calling had been watching me through a hidden camera they covertly placed in my bathroom.

sortie 09-15-2007 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlock5 (Post 13093666)
Clearly this is evidence of a Jewish-Bush conspiracy.

And when the phone rang just as I sat down on the toilet to take a huge shit was proof that the person calling had been watching me through a hidden camera they covertly placed in my bathroom.

Why do you think Bush would be involved in any conspiracy?
If this was a consipracy why would anyone need Bush?

The hi-jackers didn't need Bush so why would anyone else.

elemental oz 09-15-2007 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 13093688)
Why do you think Bush would be involved in any conspiracy?
If this was a consipracy why would anyone need Bush?

The hi-jackers didn't need Bush so why would anyone else.

what hi-jackers?

sortie 09-15-2007 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elemental oz (Post 13093724)
what hi-jackers?

The ones that many people believe commited the 911 attacks.

I tend to believe that version of events myself but I'm not the dumb sheep that will not even hear other evidence.

The Sultan Of Smut 09-15-2007 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elemental oz (Post 13093724)
what hi-jackers?

These ones :)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

SPACE GLIDER 09-15-2007 11:11 PM

I'm not sure I buy any of the established conspiracy theories completely, but something untoward DID take place that day. I mean ... besides the attack itself.

Steve Awesome 09-15-2007 11:42 PM

There's a good South Park episode about the conspiracy theorists.

Chocolate hotdog.

sortie 09-15-2007 11:51 PM

Kind of long but very interesting:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...groundzero.htm

If he is making it all up then he should go to jail and/or be sued for slander but neither has happened to my knowledge.


Look at the molten metal streaming in the WTC in this video.
Sorry, but if jet fule could burn this hot the fucking planes would melt:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=1

Now look at this video of a thermite burn:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...43493488769585
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...92513004925125

Office buildings don't usually have barrels of thermite in them, nor do commercial planes carry it as cargo(The pilots would quit), but
thermite is the only resonable explanation for the flame on the WTC.

I's either thermite or some chinese imported copier toner.:1orglaugh

Red Ezra 09-15-2007 11:53 PM

man oh man

Paul Markham 09-16-2007 12:05 AM

The gap in the conspiracy theories is Osam and Al Queda.

If anyone could prove that it was not them they would bring down the whole decks of cards. The repercussions would be awesome. Linking it to anyone else but Jihadists would be an achievement of immense benefit to the Muslim cause.

Whoever did it would be the hate figure Osam and Al Queda is now. So why don't they say they never did it and show us proof?

Because they can't prove it, because they did it. Most likely.

Or they are too stupid too realise the benefits. But the US can't beat these stupid people.

stinkyfingers 09-16-2007 12:10 AM

fascinating

rowan 09-16-2007 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 13093983)
Look at the molten metal streaming in the WTC in this video.
Sorry, but if jet fule could burn this hot the fucking planes would melt:

So you're comparing a controlled burning to a fire?

That's a bit like saying the heat from your gas jet is the same as that of a gas line explosion... why doesn't my car explode when I turn the ignition? :helpme

sortie 09-16-2007 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13094029)
So you're comparing a controlled burning to a fire?

That's a bit like saying the heat from your gas jet is the same as that of a gas line explosion... why doesn't my car explode when I turn the ignition? :helpme

Why don't you put your spark plug wires in the gas tank and then turn the ignition?
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Profits of Doom 09-16-2007 12:30 AM

Wow, I love how someone that reads some bullshit blog is informed, and everyone else is sheep. The fact is people can speculate all they want about how the buildings came down, but there has never been anything to compare it to. Even the architects of 9/11, Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, were shocked at the effectiveness of the attacks. Do a search for Bin Laden's audio and video recordings and you find one where he states the attack was successful beyond what he had ever imagined...

sortie 09-16-2007 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13094014)
The gap in the conspiracy theories is Osam and Al Queda.

If anyone could prove that it was not them they would bring down the whole decks of cards. The repercussions would be awesome. Linking it to anyone else but Jihadists would be an achievement of immense benefit to the Muslim cause.

Whoever did it would be the hate figure Osam and Al Queda is now. So why don't they say they never did it and show us proof?

Because they can't prove it, because they did it. Most likely.

Or they are too stupid too realise the benefits. But the US can't beat these stupid people.


I'm not convinced of any conspiracy theory, but I'm willing to hear what people have to say.

But, why do you need Osama and Al Queda out of the picture for it to be a conspiracy? Why couldn't they be in on something they wanted to do anyway? If I had millions of dollars and wanted to blow something up those guys would be the first people I called.

sortie 09-16-2007 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13094061)
Wow, I love how someone that reads some bullshit blog is informed, and everyone else is sheep. The fact is people can speculate all they want about how the buildings came down, but there has never been anything to compare it to. Even the architects of 9/11, Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, were shocked at the effectiveness of the attacks. Do a search for Bin Laden's audio and video recordings and you find one where he states the attack was successful beyond what he had ever imagined...

I love how people come into a thread screaming crap about someting that I posted as information only. I never said any of it is true.
Your knee-jerk reactions are probably why your mind is closed to any new information. It may be bullshit, but how do you know that without listening and reading before shouting and screaming on the board about something.

Profits of Doom 09-16-2007 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 13094070)
I love how people come into a thread screaming crap about someting that I posted as information only. I never said any of it is true.
Your knee-jerk reactions are probably why your mind is closed to any new information. It may be bullshit, but how do you know that without listening and reading before shouting and screaming on the board about something.

I haven't screamed crap about anything. I have read all of the info you posted time and time again, and I stated my opinion. How do you know my mind is closed about anything, and where exactly was I shouting and screaming? You are the one that called people sheep...

Paul Markham 09-16-2007 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 13094064)
I'm not convinced of any conspiracy theory, but I'm willing to hear what people have to say.

But, why do you need Osama and Al Queda out of the picture for it to be a conspiracy? Why couldn't they be in on something they wanted to do anyway? If I had millions of dollars and wanted to blow something up those guys would be the first people I called.

A think that's a bit deep and Osama would be the last person I would bribe to do this. Too unreliable, the man's a fanatic.

SmokeyTheBear 09-16-2007 02:21 AM

theres alot of wierd facts about wtc.

the head of security at the world trade center quit his job just before 9/11 , his last day was to be on 9/11 ( but he took his last day off :) )

The NEW head of security was on his first day on the job and i think he was the ex deputy director of the cia. ( he died in the collapse )

who quits there job and takes the last day off ? i could see if he just up and quit but he gave notice and worked right up until the last day.

Profits of Doom 09-16-2007 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13094283)
theres alot of wierd facts about wtc.

the head of security at the world trade center quit his job just before 9/11 , his last day was to be on 9/11 ( but he took his last day off :) )

The NEW head of security was on his first day on the job and i think he was the ex deputy director of the cia. ( he died in the collapse )

who quits there job and takes the last day off ? i could see if he just up and quit but he gave notice and worked right up until the last day.

He could have easily decided to say fuck it, it's my last day and I'm going to hang with my chick...what are they going to do, fire me? I had employees that gave 2 weeks notice that didn't finish out anywhere from their last day to their last few days of the notice on multiple occasions...

Tempest 09-16-2007 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 13093377)
Larry_Silverstein basically owned the WTC which he acquired only weeks before Sept 11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein


He says he decided to "pull" building 7 on Sept 11.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32340306101329

One hell of a job to set up a demolition in the middle of chaos.
I wonder if he had a demolition permit. I also wish I knew how to get such a permit on such short notice.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh He was talking with firemen and they were talking about "pulling out"...

Profits of Doom 09-16-2007 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 13094299)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh He was talking with firemen and they were talking about "pulling out"...

He's confirmed what you just said in many interviews since, but don't try telling the more informed blog readers that...after all, we're all just sheep :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Tempest 09-16-2007 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13094305)
He's confirmed what you just said in many interviews since, but don't try telling the more informed blog readers that...after all, we're all just sheep :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Yeah.. I've read a lot of the info about this particular incident from both sides and tried to get past all the "twisting the words around to prove my point"... I think that in the heat of the moment, and with not being familiar with the terminology etc. he said "pull it" just meaning for them to pull out like they had been discussing...

Profits of Doom 09-16-2007 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 13094317)
Yeah.. I've read a lot of the info about this particular incident from both sides and tried to get past all the "twisting the words around to prove my point"... I think that in the heat of the moment, and with not being familiar with the terminology etc. he said "pull it" just meaning for them to pull out like they had been discussing...

Man, I love a good conspiracy theory. Hell, I write articles for a paranormal website, so I'd like to think I have a pretty open mind. Like you, I have read all of the 9/11 conspiracy stuff, and I put more stock into the woman in Texas that found the corpse of El Chupacabras. I guess we're just the misinformed sheep, though...

After Shock Media 09-16-2007 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13094293)
He could have easily decided to say fuck it, it's my last day and I'm going to hang with my chick...what are they going to do, fire me? I had employees that gave 2 weeks notice that didn't finish out anywhere from their last day to their last few days of the notice on multiple occasions...

Shut up, nobody does that.
Nobody also misses meetings.
Cabs never run late either and it always only takes 30 minutes to get from anyplace in New York City to another point.
Not to mention demolition experts always set explosives high in the building to ensure they collapse and avoid the bottom at all costs. (please forget about previous attempts near bottom of building)

Fact is this is what happened.
The Alien technology in the planes malfunctioned and rebooted. This caused all of the passengers to experience mass hysteria and using quick artificial judgement the technology made them all share a terrorist illusion. By the time the alien forces knew what was going on they temporarily stopped time and teleported the passengers out of the planes and placed them on crash courses with assorted buildings. Some altitude adjustments were needed and it was such a quick job they forgot to add in all the proper details into the special devices that trick cameras of the 3rd dimension so windows were lost and what not. Then on impact the stolen technology was given the command to cause minor fission. They then appeared on camera again as one of their many public faces of religion and spoke. This is why we will never find Bin laden again and just give occasional warnings until it blows over enough for the conspiracy people to make it a giant cluster fuck like previous alien mistakes. I mean seriously a six foot something guy in the desert needing serious medical attention going unfound?

It is all really simple if you think about it.

Profits of Doom 09-16-2007 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 13094331)
Shut up, nobody does that.
Nobody also misses meetings.
Cabs never run late either and it always only takes 30 minutes to get from anyplace in New York City to another point.
Not to mention demolition experts always set explosives high in the building to ensure they collapse and avoid the bottom at all costs. (please forget about previous attempts near bottom of building)

Fact is this is what happened.
The Alien technology in the planes malfunctioned and rebooted. This caused all of the passengers to experience mass hysteria and using quick artificial judgement the technology made them all share a terrorist illusion. By the time the alien forces knew what was going on they temporarily stopped time and teleported the passengers out of the planes and placed them on crash courses with assorted buildings. Some altitude adjustments were needed and it was such a quick job they forgot to add in all the proper details into the special devices that trick cameras of the 3rd dimension so windows were lost and what not. Then on impact the stolen technology was given the command to cause minor fission. They then appeared on camera again as one of their many public faces of religion and spoke. This is why we will never find Bin laden again and just give occasional warnings until it blows over enough for the conspiracy people to make it a giant cluster fuck like previous alien mistakes. I mean seriously a six foot something guy in the desert needing serious medical attention going unfound?

It is all really simple if you think about it.

Buzzkill :disgust

After Shock Media 09-16-2007 02:58 AM

Fuck I need sleep I wrote it and it and got lost. Some parts are run on sentances that do not make sense either. Oh well.

Someone else write it better on float it on the conspiracy sites. It will be nice to see how it comes back. I am sure it would float some of the conspiracy peoples boat and explain the thermite, low flying plane, so forth.

SPACE GLIDER 09-17-2007 11:13 PM

One day the truth will be told. I'd like to think that people wouldn't be so evil as to rig a building to explode while it's full of people. But even with the story for publication we have people who will crash a plane into a building to cause just as much death and destruction.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-17-2007 11:28 PM

Either way...

The middle East needs to have the shit beat out of it.

From Female Genital Mutilation to Suicide bombers the fucken place needs a face lift anyways. If it was a conspiracy I say good, to bad it needed to be a plan where over 10,000 Americans had to die in a building...
Thats a sure sign of Bush style thinking however. It's Just dumb plan, Bush and his guys should have just said they wish to free Iraq and Afghanistan calling out human rights abuses...

The torture and barbarism in those countries including Syia, and Iran is beyond a perversion of human waste, and it was not America that triggered the idiocy spewing forth from that region. Them backwards uneducated fuckup's in the Middle East need to be removed from the gene pool no matter how you want to look at it.

reelgirlz 09-17-2007 11:40 PM

The conspiracy theories are still alive and well every anniversary. Nobody really knows for sure what happened on that day. There maybe conspiracies but its unlikely to ever be known because the people involved would probably in control of the investigations!

dav3 09-17-2007 11:54 PM

That video is from the owner himself though. He specifically said he pulled it.

tornell 09-18-2007 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 13093502)

:thumbsup:thumbsup

fuzzylogic 09-18-2007 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 13093983)
Kind of long but very interesting:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...groundzero.htm

Look at the molten metal streaming in the WTC in this video.
Sorry, but if jet fule could burn this hot the fucking planes would melt:

you _might_ want to consider going to school. if you do go, i recommend a physics class.

SmokeyTheBear 09-18-2007 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13103105)
Either way...

The middle East needs to have the shit beat out of it.

From Female Genital Mutilation to Suicide bombers


wait wait.. dont you think its a bit silly to say they are bad for female geintal mutilation.

in america boys are circumsized and girls aren't , there girls are and boys aren't . how is that any different ?


Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13103105)
The torture and barbarism in those countries including Syia, and Iran is beyond a perversion of human waste, and it was not America that triggered the idiocy spewing forth from that region. Them backwards uneducated fuckup's in the Middle East need to be removed from the gene pool no matter how you want to look at it.


lol i think your making alot of assumptions based on mediawashing.

Most of the things you hear are isolated things make the media BECAUSE of the effect. Just as their media portrays us in the same fashion , as sick twisted porn addicted perverts, with street gangs and serial killers and drunk drivers.

It's easy for you to say they are evil when they prob see us in the same light. i bet you don't hear of many school shootings , drunk drivers or serial killers from the areas you are talking about , and they might see a few stonings and torture as better than gangs, drugs, porn, serial killers and perverts etc

not here to say one is better than another but your argument is based on a few isolated things you have heard not the majority of the middle east.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-18-2007 02:24 AM

Smokey thats very liberal and nice attempt at some sorta beautiful understanding of of another civilization and how to reason with it, but this is not Star Trek and what ya put there amounts to a piss poor excuse.

Sure I suppose they are human beings but they are dumb as nails. Dangerous to not only each other but the world at large. It is not a matter of Oh they just hate America.
These are people that hate everything a civilised society is, they hate Europe, they Hate Asia they are willing to blow themselves up over bullshit, they kid nap regularly they ransom each other off while pointing the finger at others. They are little cancerous bitches and need to be removed.

They want Islamic Law, they interpret Islamic Law for fanciful agenda's that bring on violence. They will not stop till killed and when they are not killing they are interested in manipulating others to kill for them.

Fuck them pieces of shit...

They are fucking sick, worse than Hitler could ever dream of being.

fuzzylogic 09-18-2007 02:30 AM

alienQ, you are perhaps the most blinded person i have been near. i give kudos that you can write and articulate your thoughts clearly, however.

edit* this post is not worth much because i am not explaining my opinion. it's too bad that i have to sleep.

fuzzylogic 09-18-2007 02:35 AM

i try not to make a habit of calling someone out then running to the safety of my bedroom ;)

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-18-2007 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 13093377)
Larry_Silverstein basically owned the WTC which he acquired only weeks before Sept 11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein


He says he decided to "pull" building 7 on Sept 11.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32340306101329

One hell of a job to set up a demolition in the middle of chaos.
I wonder if he had a demolition permit. I also wish I knew how to get such a permit on such short notice.

If you bought a house, and 7 weeks later it collapsed in an unprecedented structural collapse do you think the cops would give you a hard time?

Do you think your insurance would pay out?

lol! those crazy conspiracy weirdos!

V_RocKs 09-18-2007 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlock5 (Post 13093666)

And when the phone rang just as I sat down on the toilet to take a huge shit was proof that the person calling had been watching me through a hidden camera they covertly placed in my bathroom.


This kind of shit happens to me all the fucking time!

Sarah_Jayne 09-18-2007 03:37 AM

remind to self: don't click on WTC threads.

AGS-17 09-18-2007 03:39 AM

interesting..

nAtuRaLbEautY 09-18-2007 09:36 AM

omg! this is fucking reality! i don't think, how damn he is by doing that shit, and don't mind if thousands of people would suffer with that unreasonable thoughts he had, just being one of the owner of that WTC building?.. .

StuartD 09-18-2007 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13093479)
Chance and innuendo.

Unless it was a Dem getting a blow job and then it would be highly suspicious.

_Richard_ 09-18-2007 09:51 AM

that thermite point is a little interesting

Dirty F 09-18-2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elemental oz (Post 13093724)
what hi-jackers?

:1orglaugh

God, you pathetic dumb fuck.

You people are so fucking sad. Shoot yourself please. You too Sortie, you imbecile.


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