Who is following the Madeleine McCann case?????
 

Just returned from Portugal, and it is all over the news all the fucking time. What do you think about this crazyness?!? I am not sure what to belive. Seems toooo fucked up that the parents have killed and dumped her. Seems to me that the police are desperate to find someone to blame. But it is a mad world. Im not sure what to think :(


Case: English Madeleine McCann (5 years old) diseappeard 3 of May 2007 while she was on holiday with her parents in Portugal. Madeleine and her 2 little brothers was sleeping in their appartement while her parents were at a resturant 100 meters away. Her mother went to check on here, and she was gone.

They first thought she was kidnapped. By a pedophile organization or something nasty. Everyone took part of this:
http://www.nrk.no/contentfile/file/1...img2496049.jpg
All over stadiums in UK

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200705/r143163_496770.jpg
David Beckhams does what he can

http://www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1179072748644_557.jpg
Everton, the soccerteam, wore these thirts before some matches.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/grap...5/30/upope.jpg
Even the POPE shared his feelings with the parents


Then after not finding ANYTHING, the polize turns their eyes against the parents and says they have found reason to belive that it was the parents who did this. The latests news is that there have been found trace of blood in the back of the car the parents rented 3 WEEKS AFTER she had disappeard. And the DNA was a 100% match to Madeleine. Weired. Both parents are doctors, and the charges are now that they accidently used too much drugs when trying to calm her down.

:(

I am only because it is impossible to be in this country and not hear about it. Who knows but as I said in previous threads, I just get the feeling of a set up from the police because they weren't getting anywhere. Plus, the media now totally forgets that that other guy that lives near the hotel resort is also an official suspect. Who knows but if they did do it - and somehow manage to dispose of her body while the world was watching them - then the fund they created has to go down as one of the biggest scams in history.

I just get the feeling they are being set up.

One thing i keep thinking....

They left their kids alone... Yeah...
When being questioned about it the Dad keeps getting really angry... Wouldn't you be really fucking devastated?!
I would be crying my heart out cuz of what I had done...

They do seem to be rather suspicious with certian things they are doing...

Why would a kidnapper only take one of the kids from the room as well?!

Hummmmm...

No one will ever really know what happened! :(

I am portuguese so I get this shit all the time.

People who think our police are making up stuff to solve the case are retards. Sorry, you are.

Portugal is not a 3rd world country, 1000s of kids disappear every year all over the world and noone finds them, ever. There's no reason to blame the parents.

The parents were at least guilty of leaving 3 young children alone in the appartment while they were getting drunk with friends. They were never innocent and the whole story was always very strange, unless you got caught in the histeria they created.

If they weren't a prominent, attractive couple... no one would give a fuck :2 cents:

At least she's lucky enough to be cute, so everyone was pitching in to help find her....

Sorry, my cynicism is in full force today ;-)

kids go missing all over the world all the time, but the only ones who seem to make it on TV and tshirts are the "cute" kids.


As for the topic of this thread...I've been following it mildly and it's odd how often times it is the parents in cases like this.

The entire thing is so unfortunate...

The parents are guilty !!

Guilty of what though has still to be decided.

[If she really was kidnapped]
The minute they decided to leave 3 small children alone in an apartment, while they went out (again) and had a meal and drinks with friends and family made them guilty for a start. Nobody with half a brain would do this, yet those 2 are supposed to be intelligent people. There was no signs of a forced entry into the apartment, as the parents said this was incase there was a fire, so it would be easy to get out. Umm, so if you are so worried about a fire, shouldn't you take the kids with you ?? It's not like the twins would be able to save themselves anyway. So even if Maddie is found dead or alive, the parents should still be charged with neglect.

[If the parents killed her]
And this is the BIG if, although the way they have both appeared on tv almost every day just seems so different to someone who has a child missing. No tears, calm, and doing a world tour like they were popstars, while their kid is missing ???
It's hard to work out how they could have moved Maddie's body while the tv cameras etc seemed to be following their every move since they reported her missing. Although tests seem to be giving away something, so i guess we will find out sooner or later.

The money raised in the appeal is perhaps the biggest joke of all !
Why people were even donating money in the first place is beyond me. What exactly was the money for ?
Now it seems the money is going to be used to pay for the parents court costs.


One of the family members blamed the Portuguese police for Maddie being missing. If the parents hadn't fucked off to get drunk while leaving their kids alone in a strange place, maybe then she wouldn't be missing... :2 cents:

The UK isn't a third world country and our cops haven't been above doing similar things in the past. I agree they were amazingly dumb to leave their kids and I also think that if they were lower class or not white the British press would have demolished them for it.

I bet we will never know. Unless they find the body. I agree that they should NEVER leave them alone. And wtf is up with NOT locking the door in case of fire? THAT is fucking dumb.

The DNA found in the car wasn't blood, it was Hair. AND it was in the trunk/spare tire area under the upolstery. (this according to tv news this morning and they said nobody would confirm it.. )

That's going to be a problem.

hmm... a hair could come from anywhere...

Missing White Girl Syndrome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing...woman_syndrome

Her mother has been carrying the little girl's toys with her the whole time. There is bound to be hair and stuff on those. I honestly don't know what has really happened but 'dna' can come form anywhere and then 'they' (being the press) says it is an exact match and then they say it isn't ..well a partial match with four other family members that have used that car doesn't seem all that out of the question.

Plus, why don't the police have the car? The McCanns have it and it is store (as they say it) 'in a safe place'. If the car is possible evidence why don't the police have it?

Yeah the whole thing stinks for those parents :(

SOP is to CLEAR the parents/people closest first because statistically, 75% or so are guilty. To drop it like a bomb like they did after weeks was stupid.

sad but true...

I'm not saying it would be impossible for our police or any police to do something horrible like that, but there is no reason to believe it at this point. It was something a member of their family said, and it makes no sense.

Everyone loved those 2 so much, they didnt cried but a lot of people in Portugal cried for them... while portuguese kids missing never got any of this attention. This whole case was weird, I guess the girl is (was) very pretty and the couple look good too, is that the only reason the media made them popstars and everyone cared so much? Or there's no reason at all?

That's a start :thumbsup

anyone in the US leaving their 3 year old in charge of younger twins while going for drinks and dinner would be consider white or black trash....
there is something wrong with the parents no doubt...

I never loved them or anything like that...but you also have to understand the clash of cultures and the 'stiff upper lip' British thing. I have heard their voices crack and their faces look like they are trying to hold it together in the media glare.

oh and I think the member of the family you are talking about is the mother of the wife..she was on the radio the day the wife went in for questioning and was just really upset (as you can imagine you would be ) and kept mutter that it must be a fix up...you should have heard the BBC interviewer trying to stop her saying that on air without them being able to balance it. I think at that stage she was just a really upset mother and grandmother. Even if they did do it I bet their family believes they didn't and are fighting their corner.

The problem is you have tabloids who publish all kind of crap, and sadly we have a couple of our own that try to follow the same style.

So you can imagine the news we get here, "english newspaper says portuguese police is trash", and noone mentions it was the news of the world or wathever shitty tabloids you have there. So our press gets upset and strikes back, and so on... making this a Portugal vs England thing.

Our Policia Judiciária is considered to be a top police worldwide, they could screw up like anyone else, but it's not likely.

The other problem is noone knows for sure what the police knows and what they are doing about it, it's all just guesses from the press who may or may not have a reliable source. So there's a lot of talk, and not that many facts. All we know for sure is the girl is still missing.

yeah, again I think that is about culture clashes...I know some of the more quality reporters have really been trying to explain the differences in UK laws and policing media practices vs those in Portugal. At the start when they made the other guy a suspect the woman that is out there for the BBC was going to pains to explain how little the police there are allowed (or by tradition..not sure if it is an actual law) tell the media. Then with the parents being made official suspects we have had another crash course on how that is meant to be big time different than being made an official suspect in the UK. I swear, they never mention the other guy anymore but for a week he was on the cover of every tabloid here and they were calling him a pervert, etc.

We don't get that much about the coverage over there other than occasional pictures of the front pages where it looks like (but since it isn't English we don't really know) they aren't very friendly to the wife in particular.

Your country has never dealt with a case like this, and doens't know how to deal with it.

I've been following it mildly. I really don't know what to think, to me the story has been odd from the get go- leaving 3 small children alone while you have dinner, even close by, it's still not right. If it is true- it's an act of selfish parents. I'm not saying you deserve to have something awful happen to your child if you neglect them, but if you can't deal with the responsibility don't have them. Suck it up- get the food to go and eat it in the room, order room service, or take your kids with you. It's completely assinine- you shouldn't leave a 5 yr old alone, then you add the 2 year old twins in the mix on top of it all, Christ.

I'm pretty sure the Pope ate her...ya, that's what i'm going with:2 cents:
either that or Kato Katlin:upsidedow

No but really, I think the parents are pretty fuckin shady IMO:disgust

It sure got SHITLOAD of attention, and it must be very frustrating for the Portugese police not getting anywhere. Though, I am not saying they are making this up, it all smells strange. Either the parents are fucking dumb (besides leaving their kids in the first place), or the police are totally loosing it.

I dont think any country ever dealt with such a case, the parents getting so much media coverage, they even went to the pope, and then they are suspects...

Our police wont tell anything to the media because it's the law, during the investigation they cant say anything about it, so the newspapers can print what they want and noone will confirm or deny it. In England it seems they talk to the press all the time.

Duh? Every western country has dealt with missing children cases - nothing new.

For obvious reasons the case has become a feeding frenzy for the press with speculation (all 100% solid evidence of course since the press tested DNA samples and are experienced criminologists *lol*) running riot over the police, parents and anyone else remotely involved. Fact can be a little different and this case is much the same as eg Ramsay "child beauty queen" saga in the US.

Time will tell... or maybe not, depending if a body is recovered - assuming there is a body to recover.

If the parents did it (not unlike Jon Benet Ramsey...), they should be dragged behind a car and feed to dogs. :2 cents:

Interestingly, if this was in the UK the press wouldn't be able to report like this at all. The UK has pretty strict (way stronger than the States) laws about reporting on cases. But, it is not here so they are having their way.

just my opinion about this case:

I also think one of the parents did it ... by mistake
Perhaps the kid was acting up and they slapped her a bit too hard or gave her a good shaking and she didn't respond anymore.
They're both doctors, so they aren't stupid.
They got a lot to lose such as their job (money) and their other two kids.
Confessing wouldn't bring the girl back anyway.

They aren't stupid, if they didn't/don't make mistakes and both stick to their story nomatter what (they're doing a good job so far), chances are likely they'll get away with it.

Now they got a copy of her diary.

we are told they want rather than have it....think a doctor would keep a diary saying she did it and then leave it behind?

Didn't they leave her alone to go out and party and drink wine?

Female doctors can be tough, I know that from personal experience.

Yeah, I've been following the case closely. I'm not sure what to think of Kate and Gerry McCann yet. I hope the police are able to find the body. Poor girl, hope she didn't suffer.

I dont think she suffered, and I dont think they will EVER find her body. :(

How can some people do this to their own flesh and blood?