Matt Hamil Got Screwed!
 

He got fucked by the judges.

He easily won the descision in my eyes.

I was just about to start a post stating the exact same thing.

How the fuck did he lose that? He was in control the entire fight! Got tons of hits in, blocked everything coming his way, and was always on top when they were on the ground...

Doesn't make sense.

Only one judge scored that fight right, I'm guessing THAT judge wasn't from England.

that does suck .. He made great improvements from his last fight and I'm sure they'll have him back.

Hmm it isn't on yet here :|

cecil peoples, when you hear that name you know its going down. you didnt even have to listen to the numbers, when you hear his name it's over.

Did Michael Bisping even get a punch in or a takedown? Seriously fucked up judging!

I think it was closer than you guys describe, but you know how it is with fights with hometown heroes. Hamill's boxing improvement was impressive, but I think he needs to use his wrestling more and especially some jui jitsu. Looked like he had an opportunity to throw a guilloitine choke a couple of times during the fight but he didn't even try.

Hamil got ripped, big time.

Yep, he got cheated. Choosing a winner based on hometown favorite is pathetic. Next time he'll just go ground game the entire time and finish it off in the first round. He's clearly much stronger, more composed, and just a better fighter than Brisbane.

That's supposed to say Bisping

makingcoin gives rimjobs through the gay gloryholes.

Every Fucking Judge Should Be Fucking Fired< What A Bunch Of Bullshittt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Complete and utter incompetence, if Dana doesn't address this, he is gonna go down as MMA's Don King.

I saw the fight exactly how it was scored. Hamill was much improved and looked dominating, but the fact is that aside from round 1, he didn't do much damage. By the end of the 2nd round he had pretty much stopped doing anything other than a couple of sloppy takedowns.

Bisping however never stopped punching, had some pretty good stuffs on the takedowns and was the only one attempting techniques while they were on the ground by going for the triangles.

When you take a look at the scoring rules for the judges in UFC, you'll see that Bisping rightfully won that fight, but that it was definitely close, if Hamill would have pushed the action a bit in the 3rd it would have been his for sure.

But Bisping didn't do any damage to Hamill at all. I agree that Hamill didn't do a whole lot outside of round one, but he did throw and land good punches, and he took Bisping down many times in every round demonstrating supremacy over him. The only person that ever got damaged throughout any of the rounds was Bisping. I think Bisping fought with more heart, but that wasn't enough to give him the fight. He simply could not take Hamill if his life depended on it.

Swinging and barely hitting anything doesn't count.
Aggressivness - Hamill,
Takedowns - Hamill (Sloppy my ass ROFL)
Stand up - Hamill
Ground Game - Hamill
Those are MMA categories for Judging. How could the decision go to Bisping again?

Swinging and barely hitting anything doesn't count.
Aggressivness - Hamill,
Takedowns - Hamill (Sloppy my ass ROFL)
Stand up - Hamill
Ground Game - Hamill
Those are MMA categories for Judging. How could the decision go to Bisping again?

I agree with some of your assessment, but I thought Hamil clearly took the last round with all his takedowns. At worst, this was a draw.

Yep you score for offense, not defense.

I saw it as a draw or a slight advantage to Hamil.. I would have like to that one to go another round or two and then see who had the heart to take it..

The problem for Hamil is this: For all the control he kept taking, he didn't turn it into anything near a finished product. Bisping was able to get out of each of them (although he did suffer damage in most cases). Hamil didn't get to fight the type of fight he wanted to fight, and didn't press his advantage. After the initial shock of the attack in the first round, Bisping got going and got a fair number of good shots in.

Hamil had a number of chances to end things, but seemed to run out of power each time.

Hamil got fucking jipped, he took Bisbing down atleast 4-5 times and got lots of good shots in... Bisbing got some good kicks in at the beginning and a few shots, but Hamil CLEARLY should have won. Judges were all fucked up.

The first round he destroyed him in stand up owned him in takedowns and Bispings face looked like hamburger. The round also ended with Hamill in full mount for most of the last bit of the round. How can that fight have been scored 30 - 27 for Bisping by that crooked fucking judge.
And no one was more surprised by the decision than Bisping, but still he goes off on this rant talking down Hamill. Classless of him.

like i already said, when i heard the name cecil peoples i knew it was all over. one of the most crooked judges in the game.

Matt Hamil never gets a break...

I was speechless when they announce Brisbane the winner.
Then I said "Did the judges see the same fight we just did?"

Anyone notice they had no clips of Bisping at the end of the fight to show any kind of highlights? That's because there was none! Rogan really had nothing to talk about.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...EBAN/ufc75.jpg

Hamil clearly lost.

You can clearly see that Cecil People hates the ground fighter. He is still stuck in fantasy karate world.
http://www.cecilpeoples.com/

I agree with most of that, but I don't agree that Bisping got a "fair number of good shots in". I decided to watch it over and slow motion certain parts. The crowd reacted on many of Bisping's punches, but all they did was hit Hamil's gloves time and time again. After watching it again it appeared even more clear that Hamil won as there was no round I could clearly give to Bisping. Can someone give the judges scoring, as someone earlier in the thread said one judge had 30-27 for Bisping, but I heard it for Hamil with the other two 29-28 for Bisping.

did u sign up for that thing yet?

I think the judges were watching a different fight, any idiot with half a brain and one eye could have clearly seen that Hamil controlled every round, he landed more punches and had more take downs. If you look at the expression on the face of Bisbing after the bell signaling the end of the the 3rd round, it is clearly not that of someone who thought he had won the fight.

That ruling is a total disgrace to the sport. If Bisbing had any class at all he should've said that in all honesty he thought he had lost the fight. Instead he says some bullshit about how he couldn't have seen the ruling to go any other way and that this proves that he was the rightful winner of the Ultimate Fighter, and if Hamil had not been injured and was able to fight him on the show the outcome would've been the same, blah blah blah.

There will definitely be a rematch because of this, only this time Hamil will have to knock him out or submit him so there can be no doubt about who the winner is.

Let's hope this is a one-off. This type of nonsense can kill the sport and MMA is the best individual combat sport out there now. It's being sabotaged already.

And Bisping's trash talking afterward was completely uncalled for.

I see what you're saying but by that theory, Griffin should have beaten Ortiz in their fight. Ortiz didn't push the fight at all after their first round and outside of a late takedown in round 3 was barely effective.

Without watching again I can't say Bisping got more or less shots in through the last 2 rounds, but listening to the commentators it was clear at the final bell they thought Bisping lost. Just like everyone else watching it, save for the 2 judges I assume!

Joe Rogan on the Underground:

I don't think he got robbed, but it was closer than the ALL the judges scored it IMHO.

Actually he was the only judge from England.
The other two that gave the fight to Bisping were from the states.
All were picked by UFC cause there is no sanctioning body over there.