NoCreditCard against PasswordByPhone???
 

If you have tried both, which one converted better?

from the title i thought NCC sued PBP lol

I think they both are tough to convert, but that may be due to the tricky nature of foreign traffic.

But, of the two companies, PBP impresses me more.

No Credit Card Baby!!!

I know much better NCC's product than PBP's.
And what is for sure is that NCC has way more options to convert your international traffic than PBP :

420,000,000 billable mobile phones worldwide for your own content
http://www.123ticket.com

Up to $16 per phone call over 240 countries
http://www.coolaccess.com

Cash program combining licensed HQ content + unique payment solution (CreditCard+Phone+SMS)?
http://cash.dvd-explorer.com/main

Combination of Phone Access, One shot phone calls, SMS for your own content
http://www.nocreditcard.com

Combination of Phone Access, One shot phone calls, SMS with adult content fully integrated
http://www.sex-explorer.com (probably the highest visited adult website over the past 10 years on international traffic)

US credit card declined
http://www.chargemelater.com


All of these are NCC's solutions

Benny!!! Dirty D and I look forward to sitting down with you in AMS and checking out your great solutions!!!

also being currently in Spain, i get an error on all PBP sales page :

template parser error (ref: w3)
- no country or ip

http://www.pinaccesscode.com/?w=0&h=0&layout=pisssex
maybe it's just for spanish traffic though, would like to have some feedback from people in other countries

Both great programs, we've been using PBP for a long time, and we're currently working with NCC to work them into our system. I look forward to long relationships with both companies.

Pbp works fine if you ask me :)

We use NCC and we're happy with them... haven't setup PBP yet though.

I have only used PBP but they are pretty good

we use www.pay123.com for our affiliate program cams4us.com it works SUPER..
our creditcard and phonebilling income are equal now.

Tried both. NCC works better for us, since they offer per minute billing. PBP is a nice idea, but we notcied many ppl hang up...Because they forst have to be like 5 minutes on the phone, and then get their password

what was your phonebilling % before that?

Does anybody use GSX Bill ?

well we had a lot of european traffic but couldn't convert it.. so we searched for a solution. after that we were able to convert the european traffic.

yep you are right about PBP it takes too long. but for that we got now www.pay123.com it has the best payouts per minute for europe.

Great thread, I would like to add one of those two also

Will you be in Vegas JimmiDean? Would be delighted to meet, show you how PbP works, and answer any questions you may have...:)

Both are good options for traffic that cannot be converted with credit card or real direct debit :thumbsup

Hi

Feel Free to contact us to know more about coolaccess.com, our world wide password delivery solution.

Basically, our main benefits regarding the competition are :

=> No Idle holding time : Less users hang up before getting the password.

=> The pin code is generated immediately, and our customers are paid from the first second (You make money even if the user hangs up before he gets his access, which in some countries represent up to 20% of the calls)

See u next week in the palm's :thumbsup

The Nocreditcard Team

Emjay and PasswordByPhone rocks :)

Thanks polle54:winkwink:

who offers the best or the easiest for set up ?
we have a lot of foreign traffic going to waste right now

i'd like to hear more of who has what to offer

yes and no.
You don't have enough volume for those guys.

Hey Slavdogg, we can have you up-and-running within 24hours, process is as follows:
1. Sign up
2. We send you a small script that needs to be placed on your server
3. You advise us of the location of that script and we then complete the set up for you
4. You're done

Please note that we can also create international versions of your sites and supply you with a redirect script so that you send sufers from Russia, India, China & Co straight to it...

How was the upper class flight Emjay?

Any goss from Hollywood?

Hi

We can setup a test of our payperaccess CoolAccess.com solution on your international traffic, with our private area, in 15 minutes. You will see immediately how much money you can make.

A complete Nats integration will take 1 hour.

But be careful, it's not only a setup issue.

CoolAccess gives access to your (or our) member's area while the user is calling : There's no Idle time, so more passwords delivered.

Even if the user hangs up before the end of the call, so before to get his password, we pay you on each minute of the call, from the first second.

Feel free to hit me on icq (211956332) for further details.

Cheers

Thibaud

What a battle :1orglaugh

Ask who pays on incompletes ;)

And that's the difference right there folks.
Discussion over ;)

We're providing our dialer platform for U if you just wanna convert your traffic.
It's also no idle holding for pass, but immediate access!!!

No payment holds, we do factoring (bi-weekly) for PRN as well as for IRN.
Hit me up for further info if you're getting interested.

does any of the solutions do not fuck the surfer?

everyone please raise a hand that used dialers in the past to get as much money as possible out of the people - not caring about any consequences

and don't make me dig out all the old articles

For all those of you with different business models, we offer technical tutorials to integrate Nocreditcard.com onto your product :

eWallet : http://help.nocreditcard.com/kb/idx....CC-Wallet.html

NATS Integration : http://help.nocreditcard.com/kb/idx....-Tutorial.html

Real Time Stats : http://help.nocreditcard.com/kb/idx....-Tutorial.html

API Callback : http://help.nocreditcard.com/kb/idx....--English.html

This is mostly for skilled programming team.
If you have lots of international traffic and want us to do the work for you, please contact me!
arnaud @ nocreditcard.com
Tel : +34-679-454-696 (European hours)

These aren't dialers.

if any of the solutions do a real good job of fucking the surfer
please stand up now so we could add your solution asap.

but some companies have a "history" :2 cents:

If this was 1995, you'd be rubbing your hands together over dialer cash :2 cents:

Thanks to point this out ;)

But it's not the only big difference :

With Cool Access, the user can browse your private area while he's calling. He's not only waiting passively for his password.

You will get much more complete calls on this way.

PbP was originally developed with the "buy time" business model since this way webmasters could bill ALL surfers, not just those who have broadband or two phone lines which solutions like coolaccess require.

PbP 2.0 will redress this issue and offer PPM billing, together with a raft of innovative non-compete global tools and upsells to help webmasters make more international money:)

Watch this space!:pimp

But will it pay on dropped calls? Last time I checked over PBP's charge rates and payouts, the only way to cut a profit was from dropped calls. IIRC [and I do admit, it has been a while] - that I could call 5:59 of a 6 minute call, and it'd magically not appear in stats.

Hi quantum-x, yes it will:)

To get running with us you need to:
1: Signup using our form
2: Configure your pricing using our "set your own pricing system", screenshots available here: http://www.global-acces.com/?page=ticket
3: Upload a script where you modified 4 lines to your own value
4: Put a linking code on the desired pages where you wish to use our billing options.
5: If done before sunday the 17th you will get your first payment on monday the 18th as long as you made minimum $25 (fast payments, even for small amounts)
You decide yourself if you wish to provide instant access, or if users should be forced to stay on the phone for X minutes before getting access, regardless of what options you choose you are paid for calls of all durations even it the user quit the billing event before gaining access to your site :thumbsup