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c-lo 08-26-2007 03:11 PM

SEO Gurus: About IP Addresses...
 
This is a bit difficult to explain, so please bare with me.

If I have 10 websites, 2 on each IP address and I link them together in this manner: 2 sites on IP#1 link to 2 sites on IP#2 and so on, does it matter whether the IP addresses are on seperate C classes? If not, would it still not matter if I did this with more sites (say 50-60) or is there a sort of unspoken maximum before SE's get suspicious?

Of course, I wouldn't do it in this exact manner - it'd be much more intricate than IP1 linking to IP2, which links to IP3 and so on...

Will I be okay as long as I have seperate (same C class) IPs linking to each other or do they need to be on seperate C classes, as well as seperate IPs? Also, what is the maximum number of sites you would stick on one IP?

Thanks in advance.

baddog 08-26-2007 03:13 PM

If they are on the same Class C the SE's will treat it like an internal link.

c-lo 08-26-2007 03:28 PM

Wow, that was fast. Thanks, baddog. You or anyone else have any input regarding max number of sites per IP?

u-Bob 08-26-2007 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12991522)
If they are on the same Class C the SE's will treat it like an internal link.

yeah right...

d-null 08-26-2007 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 12991566)
yeah right...

does this mean you agree or disagree?

Babaganoosh 08-26-2007 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12991522)
If they are on the same Class C the SE's will treat it like an internal link.

:1orglaugh Bullshit.

st0ned 08-26-2007 03:45 PM

I run 20+ sites from on IP on my dedicated server, Link them all together, And get great results in the SERPs. Everyone always said its bad to do so, But I have never seen any negative effects from doing so..

d-null 08-26-2007 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 12991597)
I run 20+ sites from on IP on my dedicated server, Link them all together, And get great results in the SERPs. Everyone always said its bad to do so, But I have never seen any negative effects from doing so..

do they share PR too?

Iron Fist 08-26-2007 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12991522)
If they are on the same Class C the SE's will treat it like an internal link.

Nope....

st0ned 08-26-2007 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetjet (Post 12991600)
do they share PR too?

Well, My more established ones are all PR4. Pretty much anything I link on them eventually comes PR3-PR4. As far as my recent projects I haven't seen a PR change yet.

SpeakEasy 08-26-2007 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12991522)
If they are on the same Class C the SE's will treat it like an internal link.

You are totally wrong, (like usual)..:2 cents:

c-lo 08-26-2007 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 12991597)
I run 20+ sites from on IP on my dedicated server, Link them all together, And get great results in the SERPs. Everyone always said its bad to do so, But I have never seen any negative effects from doing so..

How long have you been doing this, st0ned? I've heard it can take time for the SE's to realize it, and then penalize sites for doing this. Don't get me wrong - I hope they don't penalize you...I'm just saying...

Seems like most disagree with baddog...hmm.

cones 08-26-2007 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12991522)
If they are on the same Class C the SE's will treat it like an internal link.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

cones 08-26-2007 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c-lo (Post 12991629)
How long have you been doing this, st0ned? I've heard it can take time for the SE's to realize it, and then penalize sites for doing this. Don't get me wrong - I hope they don't penalize you...I'm just saying...

Seems like most disagree with baddog...hmm.

I have 100+ domains on one c class - for the last fucking 8 years

trust me baddog is a stupid mother fucking wannabe

The Sultan Of Smut 08-26-2007 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12991522)
If they are on the same Class C the SE's will treat it like an internal link.

:error:error:error

baddog 08-26-2007 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c-lo (Post 12991543)
Wow, that was fast. Thanks, baddog. You or anyone else have any input regarding max number of sites per IP?

One has nothing to do with the other.

Babaganoosh 08-26-2007 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c-lo (Post 12991629)
Seems like most disagree with baddog...hmm.

He's an idiot who couldn't find his ass with both hands. Notice he's selling "SEO" services which would account for him making such idiotic claims.

c-lo 08-26-2007 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cones (Post 12991635)
I have 100+ domains on one c class - for the last fucking 8 years

trust me baddog is a stupid mother fucking wannabe

Are they on seperate IPs (just same C class?) Do you link them together?

Appreciate the 'testimonial'.

shake 08-26-2007 04:33 PM

From what I've heard - being on 1 class C is one of many factors that search engine bots may use to decide you're spamming them - but it shouldn't effect your PR.

ztik 08-26-2007 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12991522)
If they are on the same Class C the SE's will treat it like an internal link.

Says the guy with "SEO hosting"?

F U S I O N 08-26-2007 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 12991597)
I run 20+ sites from on IP on my dedicated server, Link them all together, And get great results in the SERPs. Everyone always said its bad to do so, But I have never seen any negative effects from doing so..

I have seen the same effects with my own (50+) sites.

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 12991597)
Well, My more established ones are all PR4. Pretty much anything I link on them eventually comes PR3-PR4...

Also the same results...

hungry hungry hippy 08-26-2007 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c-lo (Post 12991543)
Wow, that was fast. Thanks, baddog. You or anyone else have any input regarding max number of sites per IP?

watch, he'll roll out an offer for his piece of shit seo services faster than that reply!

RawAlex 08-26-2007 05:11 PM

You should only get links from sites on other class A. It limits you to a maximum of 254 links, and some of them are pretty hard to get, but it is like collecting rare hockey cards.

hand-held 08-26-2007 06:49 PM

As long as your links are relevant and you're not just building a linkfarm, you don't have a whole lot to worry about. Of course hosting in a known bad neighborhood, as most of the "SEO" hosting ranges eventually become, is worse than a dozen linkfarms on the same IP.

(Not saying they necessarily are... but it's not within your control and they're being marketed as a way to dupe the SEs. Not so bright.)

HouseHead 08-26-2007 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 12991597)
I run 20+ sites from on IP on my dedicated server, Link them all together, And get great results in the SERPs. Everyone always said its bad to do so, But I have never seen any negative effects from doing so..

Shoot me an icq when you got a minute!

bdld 08-26-2007 06:59 PM

as long as you have other random class c's linking to those sites on the same class-c its fine. so in other words, get lots of links from everywhere into each of the sites.

c-lo 08-26-2007 08:24 PM

Thanks for all the replies, guys. Much appreciated.

d-null 08-26-2007 08:36 PM

What if the two domains linking are on a shared host with identical ip but different domains?

?

Marshal 08-26-2007 09:29 PM

Avoid duplicated content within one domain, don't link to banned/non existant sites and don't make a spam link farm, which means you'll be fine with one shared IP.

c-lo 08-26-2007 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetjet (Post 12992305)
What if the two domains linking are on a shared host with identical ip but different domains?

If they are on the same IP, whether on a virtual or dedicated hosting plan, I believe there's at least some risk of being penalized. Some say you won't be, but all I know is that of all the possible setups you could have with seperate IPs, C classes, and what not - that is the riskiest method of distributing PR.


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