Do you think Mike Vick should get Jail time??? Are you retarded?
 

I dont get America ... why is this shit legal

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rOJNOOH1Od0


while what vick does earn him jail time

There is a difference between celebrities and the rest.

Celebrities bring "joy" to many people. In order to keep people happy they have to keep these celebrities doing what they do best; entertain.

The rest of the population contribute very little to the rest of society, so they can go to jail and everything will stay in order.

Just my philosophy on the situation.

he killed dogs in a wicked way, are you saying that is ok?

redad the question

I eat a lot of meat and won't change for anything, but I really find that hog hunt video very distasteful. I couldn't watch past the first ten seconds. At least kill the animal quickly and if you eat it afterwards fine.

While I personally have NO interest in hunting and want nothing to do with it, I don't think I'd want the government outlawing hunting completely.

However, that being said, if you want to kill a pig, just kill the fucking pig. Knife it, shoot it, hell, chop it in half. Just let it die. The desire to torture something like that is kind of scary in my opinion.

Why is what legal? Boar hunting or training dogs to hunt boar?

are there any sort of laws about the legal way to hunt and kill animals? I mean, I'm sure there are, but would it extend to cover something like this?

That is not a wicked way. These dogs fend for their lives. If you eat meat, then you contribute to "wicked" deaths. Those animals are caged and fed drug infested food. They even make sure animals can't move so their meat keeps soft.

You say those dogs died a wicked death? I ask that you rethink that.

If you really care for animals then become a vegatarian. I did and I would never go back to eating meat.

why outlaw any type of animal on animal fighting

why is sport hunting legal but dog fighting illegal??


an animal is an animal protect hem all or protect none way i see it...


if I so choose I could go hunting for coyotes and wolves with no problem even shoot one in the head at point blank if I desire


.... but dogs.. no can do

I can kill just about any animal ( even apes ) but not dogs

why?

in my opinion, Any cruelty to Any animal is wrong. Now, I do feel there are exceptions, ie. if a dog purposefully bit my son, I would have no issue with the dog being put down, but properly, not torture. Im not going to shoot the dog in the foot, then ass, etc.

The fact that he hung and drowned his dogs, Sick!

agreed all animal cruelty should be punished the same

Not sure if we are talking about the same issue, He hung dogs, drowned and electrocuted them, or at least it was reported. Are you saying that is ok?

Agreed with 2bet..I'm sure he will pay for it by losing his income and a huge fine which is getting a slap on the wrist..

Animals that are eaten by humans are hung, drowned, and electrocuted. It's nothing new. I do not like ANY animal being harmed by humans, so I don't eat meat. Most people complaining about this are hypocrites and should just move on rather than worrying about what one man did do animals he was permitted to own.

Although dog fighting is pretty sick and pathetic, im pretty sure the fact that he was running an illegal betting house put some weight on the sentence.

This is a case of extreme willful cruelty to animals. I see jailtime in his future and have no problem with it whatsoever. No, I am not retarded. I do however wonder about the IQ of those who seem to want to justify said cruelty by citing other crimes and cruel acts going unpunished. Those acts are wrong too and deserve punishment to the people commiting them. The fact that those crimes go unpunished does not mean that Vick should be let off the hook for THIS crime.

THAT would be retarded.

I totally agree he had too much money and too much time. When people have things to do they dont get into trouble. He should go do jail but I am not so sure he will. If its his first offense he might get probation.

I think he should pay for what he has done!!

The acts he did are psychopathic in nature, its not like he shot the dog in the head with a 22 which Im not too hot on either. He tortured these poor animals,The most loyal animals in the world, I was reading about the us army using dogs in iraq about 100 of them have died. Soldiers are teamed with dogs, these two teams where in a area and a suicide bomber hit the area. The marine who made it told the medic take care of my dog first.The blast killed the other soldier and his dog dying covered in blood was using its own body to try to protect the soldier.It makes me fill up to think about that. Great animals like these dont deserve what michael vick did to him.

What a piece of shit! Jail is too good for him. The fucking NFL better suspend him indefinately - but from what I hear, the suspension will only be like one year beyond his sentence - which will likely be 18 months... WTF is that?

How long did they give Martha Stewart?

Because in America, you can't kill the cute animals. It's okay to hunt the uglier ones for sport, but you'll go to jail for strangling your neighbor's annoying cat who pisses on your porch.

hunting and torturing is very different

Reminds me of hunting Wild Boar in Cali a few years back.. my hillbilly buddy was like hunt with your knife it's better... but those fuckers have tusks... better off shooting from afar then going in for the stab under the armpit on the hog....


now all you fuckers who think thats wrong then I hope to god your a vegan while you say that and havent had yourself a nice BLT or Bacon latley because same fucking thing... only IMO hunting gives the animal a chance.. farm raised . well thats like the holocost.. they line em up and one by one kill em all for food.... so



that brings me to another point... anyone want to go hunting? I am thinking elk myself this year... I got a new 250 I am dying to go hunt with.....

One is hunting, one is killing for gambling. You cant tell me vick was eating his dogs (although it wouldnt surprise me if he was). You also cant tell me that those guys had 100+ other guys placing bets on how quickly the dogs would kill the pig.

If you cant see the difference between hunting and a guy who holds unsanctioned gambling at his estate then you need to re-read the case. Its much more than just "spike" being killed.

It's a simple distinction that anyone should be able to get without it being explained to them. There is a huge difference between killing an animal for consumption and killing it and/or torturing it for ENTERTAINMENT. You can eat meat and not want to see animals hurt unnecessarily without fear of hypocrisy.

Anyone who'd hurt an animal like this would do it to another human just as quick. Dogfighters and people who breed dogs for fighting deserve to be in jail, they DO NOT deserve to walk the streets with real human beings. They're worse than animals.

One's hunting for food - something man's done since before we were even a species... and still do in just about every country in the world.

The other is cruelty toward animals for the sheer enjoyment of witnessing the violence.


I'd say there's a significant difference. :2 cents:

this thread is great........

Ummm. If you are speaking of cattle, or lamb or pork in the US, that is 100% wrong.


At least the moving part!

the government doesn't give a rats ass about the dogs, it was about the gamboling...

The only reason this made the national news is because it's a pro football player. These rings get busted all the time, rooster and dog fight cages, Oklahoma has a good number of them. If this was anyone else it would only make the local news.

Animal rights people annoy me.. Get a real passion, how about actually fighting for something that matters? Like stopping human trafficking, forced labor, sex slaves, slavery, murder, rape, ect ect ect... You are worried so much about animal rights you closed your eyes to your neighbor beating his family each day. This is one example of 1000's of possible extreme human right violations that happen every day.

I don't condone animal cruelty.. But if you plan on eating the animal, I don't care how you kill it, a gun, knife, or bashing it on the head for 4 hours with a rock, each gets the job done.

so as long as other bad things are happening in the world, it's open season to mutilate, torture and kill animals? We're not allowed to worry about that until every other problem on the planet has been solved?

When I read these threads, I understand why 99% of webmasters are broke motherfuckers in the easiest career field in the world. I DON'T understand why you have to be cruel as well as stupid. Forrest Gump wasn't.

Who said it was open seasons to kill/torture animals? And the Gump comment, you win for the most retarded response of the day!

And yes, you should worry about human rights WAY over animal rights. How about you forget about animals and help a neighbor with some food, or a daughter getting raped by her dad, or a wife being beat. You care more about your dog than you do the Veteran begging for food because his Government forgot about him.

The problem is assholes like you put animals BEFORE humans.

So you can go ahead and make your dog fight to the death because your neighbor needs food, your daughter got raped and your neighbor beats his wife? Is that your point?

stop the black on black violence ...

Well, is your point about dog fighting or the cruel ways they killed them?

Animal rights people don't come out and do shit until a dog or animal gets hurt in a way they don't personally like. But when it does, all hell breaks lose and they go nuts by the 1000's, in every city.

Yet, these same people will drive by with the nose up and ignore a basic humans needs, someone wanting help or wanting food.

Like I said, they put animals before people, that's the fucked up point.

oh ok... your 'point' is that anyone who speaks up or cares about what happens to an animal automatically doesn't care about what happens to a human.

Stupid fucking point.

Your agument is getting thin..

How about this, How many animal rights people will walk past a bum asking for simple little quater? Or someone asking for food? Sleeping outside? Or turn a blind eye to friends they know are getting beat? We can keep going.

Now, ask how many would walk past a hungry, thirsty or lost dog... None!

Are you starting to see the truth now?

i'm starting to see that you're pretty fucking clueless. Persistent though! Keep hammering that same stupid argument even after you're shown how silly it is. Two points for stubborness, -3 for intelligence. You're still in the red on the intelligence meter :(

I have noticed this about you, anytime you get backed into a corner you pull out the "stupid" or "intelligence" arguments, your smoking gun I see.

Welp, let me know when you acually have something to add that is worth while. My facts are easy to see and witness in every day life.

wow... ok let me spell it out for you in small words and short sentences:

not like dogs hurt /= like people hurt

ok?

Hunting is legal but has some restrictions on it. You are restricted on how many animals you can kill and when you can. As for why people do it, there are just some people that get raging hard-ons running around in army fatigues 70 pounds overweight killing animals from 100 feet away while covered in deer urine. These people also vote Republican.