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Elli 08-20-2007 02:45 PM

Vista vs. Video Editing
 
Alright, my boyfriend upgraded to Vista and for some reason we can't get it to recognize my camcorder anymore. Does anyone have any recommendations on which software works best for doing this in Vista?

Or should I just get a new computer of my own but keep it rockin the XP?

(On a side note, he's got a dual core Intel processor, 4GB of RAM, an 8800GT video card, and Vista says he's barely able to run the visual effects on the menus. WTF does it want?)

yo!! 08-20-2007 02:57 PM

yo!!

... boyfriends are nothing but trouble

Jace 08-20-2007 03:00 PM

good luck, I had about the same setup and had a bitch of a time getting vista to perform properly

check on google, you are not alone in your worries

vista is crap

Annoying 08-20-2007 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by yo!! (Post 12960345)
yo!!

... boyfriends are nothing but trouble

Have him check to make sure that the video card drivers that he is using are up to date and that it is Windows Vista compatible. I am assuming that it is an Nvidia chipset. Check out NvidiaDOTcom and have him reinstall the latest if he has not already.

MaDalton 08-20-2007 03:01 PM

format c:

and then re-install XP

aico 08-20-2007 03:02 PM

I came in here for a good laugh, and got one, thank you...

Macs rule! (heh heh heh).

tony286 08-20-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 12960360)
format c:

and then re-install XP

bingo we have winner:thumbsup

KimJI 08-20-2007 03:03 PM

Until all the drivers are made and adjusted for Vista, you should stick to XP. And especially when yo are doing video editing

Lance69 08-20-2007 03:04 PM

I know some of the NLE's out there don't even support Vista yet.
Seriously, going Vista this soon has been the worst upgrade I've ever made.

Elli 08-20-2007 03:19 PM

Yeah, tell me about it. He needed to go to Vista for other reasons, and it's been very stable on his PC. But yeah, there are certain drawbacks...

I'll ask him about the video card drivers. He's usually current on those, but I'll remind him.

Elli 08-20-2007 03:21 PM

Yeah, tell me about it. He needed to go to Vista for other reasons, and it's been very stable on his PC. But yeah, there are certain drawbacks...

I'll ask him about the video card drivers. He's usually current on those, but I'll remind him.

Violetta 08-20-2007 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by yo!! (Post 12960345)
yo!!

... boyfriends are nothing but trouble

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Jim_Gunn 08-20-2007 04:12 PM

Almost all of us here on GFY who work with video every day for a living say we are sticking with XP for a reason!

munki 08-20-2007 04:16 PM

Video drivers would be first step... camcorder drivers, and firewire card/capture card drivers second step...

You might be having problems with Aero experience on Vista, or perhaps your capture problems if your video card is low on memory... I know Vista prefers 512mb video cards and above for more advanced features.

As for software, I've been doing capture/editing with ACD and Premiere on Vista... had a few hangups running 64bit, but jumping back to 32 OS install everything has been nice and smooth for me.

Tools people... Vista may not be the most stable thing out there... but put some time learning it and solving problems (granted they shouldn't be in a final release version anyways), and its pretty solid.

Snake Doctor 08-20-2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 12960744)
Almost all of us here on GFY who work with video every day for a living say we are sticking with XP for a reason!

I got a new box with Vista b/c it was the only option on a new PC.

I'm afraid to format c and install XP because it may not work right, and if that's the case I'd have to pay like $150 to get a windows vista disk.
For some stupid fucking reason this computer didn't come with a disk for the OS. :mad:

munki 08-20-2007 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 12960806)
I got a new box with Vista b/c it was the only option on a new PC.

I'm afraid to format c and install XP because it may not work right, and if that's the case I'd have to pay like $150 to get a windows vista disk.
For some stupid fucking reason this computer didn't come with a disk for the OS. :mad:

That's crap... no virtual drive with rollback install options? Check your manual... they have to include the OS one way or another, just may not be able to do a clean format and repartition.

tony286 08-20-2007 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 12960806)
I got a new box with Vista b/c it was the only option on a new PC.

I'm afraid to format c and install XP because it may not work right, and if that's the case I'd have to pay like $150 to get a windows vista disk.
For some stupid fucking reason this computer didn't come with a disk for the OS. :mad:

I was told by a ibm guy ,if you call microsoft and bitch they will downgrade you.

RawAlex 08-20-2007 04:30 PM

One of the issues you may be facing is the upgrade route rather than the new install. You have a pretty powerful PC and the machine should have no probably running Vista. But it sounds like you have some pretty major conflicts in the OS. Before you even try to get the camera to work, you should resolve those issues.

There are tools out there to see what is getting loaded, I suspect that something is getting loaded for a device, possibly old USB 1.1 that is royally screwing with your system.

Good luck.

Elli 08-20-2007 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12960851)
One of the issues you may be facing is the upgrade route rather than the new install. You have a pretty powerful PC and the machine should have no probably running Vista. But it sounds like you have some pretty major conflicts in the OS. Before you even try to get the camera to work, you should resolve those issues.

There are tools out there to see what is getting loaded, I suspect that something is getting loaded for a device, possibly old USB 1.1 that is royally screwing with your system.

Good luck.

Hmmm... I'll have to do some deeper diagnostic work, I see. Thanks for the tips!

Elli 08-20-2007 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by munki (Post 12960769)
Video drivers would be first step... camcorder drivers, and firewire card/capture card drivers second step...

You might be having problems with Aero experience on Vista, or perhaps your capture problems if your video card is low on memory... I know Vista prefers 512mb video cards and above for more advanced features.

As for software, I've been doing capture/editing with ACD and Premiere on Vista... had a few hangups running 64bit, but jumping back to 32 OS install everything has been nice and smooth for me.

Tools people... Vista may not be the most stable thing out there... but put some time learning it and solving problems (granted they shouldn't be in a final release version anyways), and its pretty solid.

The video card has 512MB ram, but yeah, that's the chokepoint that Vista complains about most. I haven't played with Premiere since 2001 or so. Maybe I should give it a looksee.

Pornwolf 08-20-2007 04:34 PM

I'm sorry, I couldn't get past the word boyfriend.

I'm crushed.:Oh crap

Snake Doctor 08-20-2007 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munki (Post 12960815)
That's crap... no virtual drive with rollback install options? Check your manual... they have to include the OS one way or another, just may not be able to do a clean format and repartition.

There is an 8GB recovery drive labeled "D"

Maybe that's what you're talking about...I guess I need to read through the literature and see how I would go about restoring if XP didn't work.

The guy at the store said he couldn't get XP to work on a vista machine he recently bought....drivers or whatever.
Of course he could have been full of shit or clueless, wouldn't surprise me.

DutchTeenCash 08-20-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12960881)
I'm sorry, I couldn't get past the word boyfriend.

I'm crushed.:Oh crap

Tell me

Took me a year to get over that

Dvae 08-20-2007 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 12960284)
Alright, my boyfriend upgraded to Vista and for some reason we can't get it to recognize my camcorder anymore. Does anyone have any recommendations on which software works best for doing this in Vista?

Or should I just get a new computer of my own but keep it rockin the XP?

(On a side note, he's got a dual core Intel processor, 4GB of RAM, an 8800GT video card, and Vista says he's barely able to run the visual effects on the menus. WTF does it want?)

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Lance69 08-20-2007 05:41 PM

Yup pay twice as much for the hardware and software to get a comparable PC for half that price. Thinking Different! :thumbsup

Elli 08-20-2007 06:04 PM

I did not say "tell me about Macs." I asked for help with my current problem. Thanks tho.

Max Cheese 08-20-2007 06:04 PM

Vista sucks, there is no question about it

Max Cheese 08-20-2007 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 12960984)
idiot images here

dumbass

do you mac fanboys know how stupid the whole "think different" campaign is considering that ALL macs look exactly the same and all mac fanboys say the exact same thing? LOL

RedShoe 08-20-2007 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 12960284)
Alright, my boyfriend upgraded to Vista and for some reason we can't get it to recognize my camcorder anymore. Does anyone have any recommendations on which software works best for doing this in Vista?

Or should I just get a new computer of my own but keep it rockin the XP?

(On a side note, he's got a dual core Intel processor, 4GB of RAM, an 8800GT video card, and Vista says he's barely able to run the visual effects on the menus. WTF does it want?)

The power of your machine can have a negative effect as well. Right now you're driving a Ferrari and you're trying to drive it on the 405 fwy at rush hour, dig?

You're not going to be able to run at full speed because the program isn't effeceint at that speed. You need to find out what the most ideal machine for your video editing software is. Believe it or not, most video editing software runs better on slower machines.

Just because you have a dual or quad core doesn't always mean it will be better for a program. It just means you'll be able to do a lot of shit at once, like running multiple programs and multiple processes. It doesn't mean that all those programs will be running better, it just means they'll be running.

Jace 08-20-2007 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe (Post 12961636)
Just because you have a dual or quad core doesn't always mean it will be better for a program. It just means you'll be able to do a lot of shit at once, like running multiple programs and multiple processes. It doesn't mean that all those programs will be running better, it just means they'll be running.

not to mention there are even still some pretty popular encoding apps that don't even support or make full use of dual and quad cores yet....so sad


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