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TampaToker 08-14-2007 10:27 AM

Joe Francis is disappointed with Playboy founder Hugh Hefner
 
"GIRLS Gone Wild" tycoon Joe Francis is disappointed with Playboy founder Hugh Hefner for failing to support him as he rots behind bars on what he claims are trumped-up charges of using underage girls in a sexual performance.

"Hugh Hefner was arrested in 1963 for a similar offense and pursued by law enforcement for decades. It's sad how quickly he forgets," Francis told Page Six from the Washoe County Jail in Reno, Nev.

"What I am going through now is exactly what Hugh Hefner went though, and what Larry Flynt went through, and I will prevail, because I've done nothing wrong."

Francis, 34, has been jailed since April, when a judge found him in contempt for failing to reach a settlement with two 17-year-old girls videotaped in a shower during Spring Break 2003 in Panama City, Fla.

Francis wasn't behind the camera; a 30-year-old producer was. Both girls lied on camera and showed fake IDs.

While Hefner has cast himself over the years as a firm defender of the First Amendment, he distanced himself on View the full story

Secksy 08-14-2007 10:30 AM

What Hugh Hefner does and what Joe Francis do are two TOTALLY different things.

One is done in a professional environment, with sober and straight headed participants.

The other is done with drunken and drugged college boneheads (who just happen to hand out with people that are underaged).

Guess which is which? :error

jonesonyou 08-14-2007 10:30 AM

Damn, Joe has been in their for a long time.

Malicious Biz 08-14-2007 10:31 AM

While Hefner has cast himself over the years as a firm defender of the First Amendment, he distanced himself on CNN's "Larry King Live" in May when King asked him about Francis.

"I'm not a fan," said Hefner, 81, "because I think it's [exploitative], and I don't think he's a very nice guy."

When asked if Francis was going beyond what Playboy does, Hefner replied: "I don't see any parallels . . . What sets the magazine apart is it really is a lifestyle publication, you know, with good fiction and good articles . . . It doesn't have much to do with what he's doing."

Yet Playboy was accused of the identical crime in lawsuits filed by five high-school girls who participated in a wet-T-shirt contest during Spring Break 2001 in Daytona Beach, Fla. The underage teens ended up in a video marketed as "Playboy Exposed: All American Girls."

According to a lawyer who repped one of the girls, the cases against Playboy were quietly settled out of court.

Francis, 34, still faces 40 years if convicted on four felony counts. After he was jailed for contempt, he was busted for possession of contraband - sleeping pills - in his pockets when he surrendered. Francis also faces tax-evasion charges.

FTVGirls_Rob 08-14-2007 10:36 AM

Joe Francis is a druggie and sees no difference between underaged girls and legal for his porn.

LiveDose 08-14-2007 10:38 AM

Joe Francis is an ego maniac who would be lucky to shine Hef's shoes. No comparison between those two men.

will76 08-14-2007 10:41 AM

The the hell does he need Hefner's help for. Francis, should have tens of millions of his own money to fight his own case.

While crybaby Joe thinks it is "exactly" the same, GGW films girls who are drunk in most cases and pays them with a T-shirt. Husler, does professional model shoots with models who are paid well.

Maybe Joe should learn how to settle out of court.

Gottis 08-14-2007 10:41 AM

Joe didnt do shit wrong in this case, the girls showed fake IDs and lied. Joe wasnt even behind the cam. Get the fuck outta here with em BS charges

Forest 08-14-2007 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gottis (Post 12927163)
Joe didnt do shit wrong in this case, the girls showed fake IDs and lied. Joe wasnt even behind the cam. Get the fuck outta here with em BS charges

yeah the tax evasion charges are bs im sure

:error

joe is a fucking cry baby pussy who should have known better

xNetworx 08-14-2007 01:21 PM

Damn! He has been in jail since April??????? Holy Shit :1orglaugh

tranza 08-14-2007 01:29 PM

He filmed a couple of underage teens. He should be arrested. Period.

Extreme John 08-14-2007 01:30 PM

Yeah he's been in there for a long ass time now.

Forest 08-14-2007 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 12928157)
He filmed a couple of underage teens. He should be arrested. Period.

more then a couple

starpimps 08-14-2007 01:32 PM

first it was crying for mom and now this...what a baby

High Plains Drifter 08-14-2007 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 12927078)
...Francis told Page Six from the Washoe County Jail in Reno, Nev.

What the hell, Joe?! You're in town and you didn't look me up?

CIVMatt 08-14-2007 01:34 PM

Hef is about a lifestyle, joe is shock value

After Shock Media 08-14-2007 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 12928157)
He filmed a couple of underage teens. He should be arrested. Period.

As much as I dislike the guy. Keep in mind he did not film underage girls, someone in his employ did but that is beyond the point since the girls presented fake ID's. Tax evasion crap aside of course. Those two girls who presented fake ID's then tried to force a settlement should be sitting in jail. That is giving nearly any female or male out there who is underage free reign to blackmail the adult industry by obtaining fake ID's then complaining after the fact.

What is even more sick is that the courts are silently encouraging this behavior and encouraged settlements and the like.

EdgeXXX 08-14-2007 01:41 PM

Fact is he chose to ignore the 2257 guidelines and now he is paying the price.


He's been sitting in that Reno jail for so long because he knows that the second this current case is settled and he is released, he will be brought up on the tax evasion charges (which means he will be sent to a FEDERAL prison to await trial). He's putting that off for as long as possible praying that it will give his lawyer enough time to think of something that will get him out of this mess and that ain't gonna happen.

pussyluver 08-14-2007 01:59 PM

You'd think with his money, he'd beable to buy his way out?

Is he currently serving a sentence? If not, then why is no bail set??

EdgeXXX 08-14-2007 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver (Post 12928315)
You'd think with his money, he'd beable to buy his way out?

Is he currently serving a sentence? If not, then why is no bail set??

Because he's being held in contempt of court; he doesn't want to get out.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-14-2007 02:01 PM

Free Francis!!

CDSmith 08-14-2007 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 12928211)
As much as I dislike the guy. Keep in mind he did not film underage girls, someone in his employ did but that is beyond the point since the girls presented fake ID's. Tax evasion crap aside of course. Those two girls who presented fake ID's then tried to force a settlement should be sitting in jail. That is giving nearly any female or male out there who is underage free reign to blackmail the adult industry by obtaining fake ID's then complaining after the fact.

What is even more sick is that the courts are silently encouraging this behavior and encouraged settlements and the like.

Agreed.

And maby he should be asking these types of girls for THREE pieces of ID instead of one.

Peaches 08-14-2007 02:10 PM

Isn't he actually in jail on contempt charges?

DaddyHalbucks 08-14-2007 02:11 PM

Wow, what a mess!

Raul_Mallcom 08-14-2007 02:11 PM

Its like everytime I look at the news this guys is in there. Joe you where a smart guy for what you did and how you did it. Be smart one more time and stop getting in trouble. You have a multi million dollar empire to look after.

After Shock Media 08-14-2007 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 12928399)
Isn't he actually in jail on contempt charges?

He is sitting in jail because he refuses to pay the extortion fee's two whores with fake id's want.

Peaches 08-14-2007 02:15 PM

Nevermind - seems he served 5 weeks in FL for the contempt charges and the NV stuff is the tax evasion.

C_U_Next_Tuesday 08-14-2007 02:16 PM

Hef said the key word here "exploitative". What Joe does is exploits drunken college girls....how many of those girls would be posing if they were sober?

After Shock Media 08-14-2007 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday (Post 12928466)
Hef said the key word here "exploitative". What Joe does is exploits drunken college girls....how many of those girls would be posing if they were sober?

Plenty.

Lots of "Hefs" girls have regretted it and said they just did it for the money because they had no options. Not to mention many girls find it some sort of twisted status symbol now almost. Then one must wonder how many of "Hefs" girls who appeared in many of the Wet T contests and other side shows beyond playboy magazine would of done it if they to had not knocked a few back.

Anyways come on, if you show up at a hosted party by GGW and you are a chick with a no host bar. What do you really expect they may want from you?

swampthing 08-14-2007 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday (Post 12928466)
Hef said the key word here "exploitative". What Joe does is exploits drunken college girls....how many of those girls would be posing if they were sober?

If it weren't for alcohol, there would be alot less sex all around the world.

How many girls support a drug habit by being content?

Stop with the hypocrisy people.

swampthing 08-14-2007 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 12928190)
Hef is about a lifestyle, joe is shock value

what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

swampthing 08-14-2007 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 12928454)
Nevermind - seems he served 5 weeks in FL for the contempt charges and the NV stuff is the tax evasion.

Thank you for the clarification. He should certainly be in there for that. Im all for porn and drunk college girls....but I hate people who are scammers.

pocketkangaroo 08-14-2007 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 12928431)
He is sitting in jail because he refuses to pay the extortion fee's two whores with fake id's want.

You mean the extortion fees he agreed to pay and then pulled back on? Joe settled and then decided he wasn't going to pay. That's contempt of court. He is also in jail for tax evasion. This guy is a crook, nothing more.

will76 08-14-2007 04:13 PM

what a mess...

RFremont 08-14-2007 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 12928211)
As much as I dislike the guy. Keep in mind he did not film underage girls, someone in his employ did but that is beyond the point since the girls presented fake ID's. Tax evasion crap aside of course. Those two girls who presented fake ID's then tried to force a settlement should be sitting in jail. That is giving nearly any female or male out there who is underage free reign to blackmail the adult industry by obtaining fake ID's then complaining after the fact.

What is even more sick is that the courts are silently encouraging this behavior and encouraged settlements and the like.


Thank you. Way too much hate-orade in this thread based on ignorance or perhaps something more sinister.

D 08-14-2007 04:50 PM

Comparing himself to Hef and Flynt and getting busted for contempt of court?

Seems like the kid's got some ego issues. :2 cents:

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-14-2007 05:08 PM

FREE JOE FRANCIS!



The Footage he is in Jail for was not shot by Joe and the model's used Fake ID's on his producer during the shoot.

pocketkangaroo 08-14-2007 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 12929472)
FREE JOE FRANCIS!



The Footage he is in Jail for was not shot by Joe and the model's used Fake ID's on his producer during the shoot.

He is not in jail for that. He is in jail for tax evasion right now.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-14-2007 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 12929483)
He is not in jail for that. He is in jail for tax evasion right now.


Oh...

Well in that case

LOCK UP JOE FRANCIS!

DaddyHalbucks 08-14-2007 06:54 PM

Hef could have been a little more charitable.

Joe did some foolish things, but don't kick a guy when he is down.

It could be any one of us...

Neighbor 08-14-2007 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 12929974)
Hef could have been a little more charitable.

Joe did some foolish things, but don't kick a guy when he is down.

It could be any one of us...

Exactly! and remember one thing everyone, we are supposed to be a unified industry. If one of our brothers is down, shouldn't we be helping in the efforts, no matter how big or small they are? People make mistakes, sometimes foolish ones, but if we don't stand strong, we won't be standing after long.

GreyWolf 08-14-2007 08:59 PM

Know nothing about Francis (other than press reports) and that he is in a jail cell for contempt of court.

If the press bullshit is correct (and they may be miles from any truth) - the guy is off the planet. Instead of whining about Heffner and Flynt, it may be a clue to address his own problems re contempt of court and take action to remedy this.

SmokeyTheBear 08-14-2007 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 12929974)
Hef could have been a little more charitable.


It could be any one of us...

joe francis family is rich , ask him how much his family helped hefner when he had legal troubles..

my guess is 0$

your right it could be any of us, and none of us would get any help from hef either..:winkwink:

:2 cents:

Drake 08-14-2007 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 12930748)
joe francis family is rich , ask him how much his family helped hefner when he had legal troubles..

my guess is 0$

your right it could be any of us, and none of us would get any help from hef either..:winkwink:

:2 cents:

I didn't know he came from a wealthy family. Makes this all the more nuts.

will76 08-14-2007 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 12929974)
Hef could have been a little more charitable.

Joe did some foolish things, but don't kick a guy when he is down.

It could be any one of us...

I don't know about the rest of you but I report my income.... :thumbsup and i have successfully passed an audit by the IRS.

Tat2Jr 08-14-2007 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 12928211)
As much as I dislike the guy. Keep in mind he did not film underage girls, someone in his employ did but that is beyond the point since the girls presented fake ID's. Tax evasion crap aside of course. Those two girls who presented fake ID's then tried to force a settlement should be sitting in jail. That is giving nearly any female or male out there who is underage free reign to blackmail the adult industry by obtaining fake ID's then complaining after the fact.

What is even more sick is that the courts are silently encouraging this behavior and encouraged settlements and the like.

Just once I'd like you to say something that I don't agree with. I'm still waiting. :thumbsup


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