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biskoppen 08-10-2007 11:41 AM

CCBILL, WTF!!! Anyone else seeing this? (picture)
 
All these nice rebills.. gotta love'em!! :pimp

,http://www.feelgoodspot.com/images/rebills.gif

Manowar 08-10-2007 11:52 AM

some of those ccbill sites *cough* nubiles,ftv*cough* pull the rebills like clockwork

BV 08-10-2007 12:22 PM

why would anyone honestly want persignup?

revshare is always better if you are pushing a high quality site that takes care of it's members.

notoldschool 08-10-2007 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 12909082)
why would anyone honestly want persignup?

revshare is always better if you are pushing a high quality site that takes care of it's members.

this is true. A solid program does not need to offer per sign up. :2 cents:

GatorB 08-10-2007 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 12909082)
why would anyone honestly want persignup?

revshare is always better if you are pushing a high quality site that takes care of it's members.

Sorry but PPS pays better for me. AT least until a program will provde PROOF otherwise.

jonesonyou 08-10-2007 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 12909082)
why would anyone honestly want persignup?

revshare is always better if you are pushing a high quality site that takes care of it's members.

Me thinks you is smart. :thumbsup

signupdamnit 08-10-2007 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 12909082)
why would anyone honestly want persignup?

revshare is always better if you are pushing a high quality site that takes care of it's members.

A lot of the ccbill programs are smaller and do not have large members areas or update a lot. In general I have had some very shitty rebills and would gladly do PPS at $30+ with most of them.

Now I have no proof of the following here and am just voicing a concern: I hate to say it also but at times I suspect some of the less scrupulous (and small time) programs may be cancelling members then setting them up with other accounts manually (so you no longer get rebills). Something like this. I have seen some very bad rebill numbers. One I just started promoting a few months ago. I sent about 20 rebilling transactions. Not a one rebilled. I am thinking of testing them and seeing if any funny business is going on. Either they are up to something or their members area really sucks. I'd gladly do just PPS with that sponsor but few ccbill programs offer that option.

It especially sucks when you have a sponsor which has initial conversions which are great, yet does not have a PPS option and rebills suck. You realize you'd be making 2-3 times as much with them if they offered PPS.

OG LennyT 08-10-2007 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12909401)
Sorry but PPS pays better for me. AT least until a program will provde PROOF otherwise.

I hate to say it, but I agree with the troll :Oh crap

FakeNick 08-10-2007 01:31 PM

there is always a place for both pps and revshare sponsors no matter what without question and everyone should be using both in their long term business strategeries

GatorB 08-10-2007 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FakeNick (Post 12909521)
there is always a place for both pps and revshare sponsors no matter what without question and everyone should be using both in their long term business strategeries


If youa re dealing with content which is exclusive and desireable then sure reshare would probably be better. If your site is just generic porn that can be found on many websites then no I wouldn't use revshare.

Violetta 08-10-2007 01:57 PM

sweet rebills... :)

lagwagon 08-10-2007 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar (Post 12908878)
some of those ccbill sites *cough* nubiles,ftv*cough* pull the rebills like clockwork


Every affiliate I talk to says that we are their best rebilling sponsor. I imagine that anyone with exclusive high quality content is the same. :thumbsup

Finike 08-11-2007 01:45 AM

I started with CCBill on September 2003, 4 days ago I had 2 rebills from people who signed up this month!

Matt 26z 08-11-2007 02:49 AM

Revshare isn't always better even if the members area is good. Another thing to look at is what kind of upselling they are doing within the members area.

A little known fact among affiliates is that members area upsells bring rebill rates down, sometimes substantially.

While the affiliate loses out on this after the member cancels and goes to that other site, your sponsor is still collecting revenues from that surfer since he referred him to his sponsor.

Some members areas exist only to harvest signups from affiliates to then immediately try and sell them on a totally different sponsor. There are some well known sponsors who use this method, and as a result their revshare option never performs as well as the PPS option.

Know what you are promoting.

Know what the surfer's experience is going to be.

AmeliaG 08-11-2007 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 12909472)
A lot of the ccbill programs are smaller and do not have large members areas or update a lot. In general I have had some very shitty rebills and would gladly do PPS at $30+ with most of them.

Now I have no proof of the following here and am just voicing a concern: I hate to say it also but at times I suspect some of the less scrupulous (and small time) programs may be cancelling members then setting them up with other accounts manually (so you no longer get rebills). Something like this. I have seen some very bad rebill numbers. One I just started promoting a few months ago. I sent about 20 rebilling transactions. Not a one rebilled. I am thinking of testing them and seeing if any funny business is going on. Either they are up to something or their members area really sucks. I'd gladly do just PPS with that sponsor but few ccbill programs offer that option.

It especially sucks when you have a sponsor which has initial conversions which are great, yet does not have a PPS option and rebills suck. You realize you'd be making 2-3 times as much with them if they offered PPS.


I am a fan of revshare.

CCBill has a place to look up what you are being paid for a particular program. You can also contact support there and ask them what percent and rebills a program is giving you. It sounds like you might be promoting someone who either has a pretty bad members area or who has rebilling turned off in the affiliate payouts. :2 cents:

nation-x 08-11-2007 06:34 AM

If you think those rebills are nice you should try promoting sapphiccash or start a deluxepass site... I get 2:1 rebills with both of these.


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