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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 08-05-2007 12:11 AM

America. FUCK YA!
 
Coming to save the motherfuckin' day! A US soldier has been sentenced to 110 years in prison for his role in the rape and murder of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and the killing of her family.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6930845.stm

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One of the soldiers convicted of the attack, Sgt Paul Cortez, said that Pfc Spielman had stood within a few feet of them as they held down Abeer Qassim al-Janabi and had done nothing to stop them raping her. The soldiers then killed Miss Janabi, her parents and her younger sister.

stickyfingerz 08-05-2007 12:18 AM

“They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.”

“I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages, all of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva conventions.”

Hmm the guy that said this stood by and did nothing, yet he became a senator and presidential candidate... interesting..

GreyWolf 08-05-2007 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12876569)
?I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages, all of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva conventions.?

Hmm the guy that said this stood by and did nothing, yet he became a senator and presidential candidate... interesting..

All that does is confirm there are more raving lunatics than the perp in the first post - but sadly you can't get past the level of crass US politics. Who would have guessed?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 08-05-2007 12:33 AM

you'd think that in a world where information and news like this can travel around the globe in a matter of minutes, that they would try to keep a little bit of control over their boys over there. or that there would be more of an uproar over the type of actions taken by the american military in iraq at the moment, but apparently it's pretty easy to overlook when there's juicy gossip about paris hilton to soak up. we can't make it a week without a newer more disgusting story about the actions of american forces coming out of the middle east, yet within a weeks time everyone has forgot the latest in the long list of atrocities and are eagerly awaiting the latest celbrity scandal or new flavour of pepsi. you wouldn't think that they could possibly top the actions taken in vietnam, but it seems like they're almost making a contest out of it now...

M0nk 08-05-2007 12:57 AM

thats really fucked up, seriously whats wrong with this people....

GreyWolf 08-05-2007 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by M0nk (Post 12876660)
thats really fucked up, seriously whats wrong with this people....

Can see how you are thinking if you are "looking inwards" M0nk - not a pretty picture :( But... it's the same in any conflict, not that that is any justification. This particular incident is vile in that it involved children as well as adults.

Here's another guilty verdict for murder a couple of days ago - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6928816.stm

That is only one side of the picture - the other comes from the puppet government in Iraq who are putting bullets in heads and drilling heads and leaving bodies at roadsides.

They are all scum who need to be fed as meat for dogs to serve any useful purpose :(

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 08-05-2007 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GreyWolf (Post 12876720)
That is only one side of the picture - the other comes from the puppet government in Iraq who are putting bullets in heads and drilling heads and leaving bodies at roadsides.

I don't really look at it as different side of the picture at all. I mean, who was holding the hand of the Iraqi transitional government the whole time? The same people supporting the American armed forces. They're all pathetic little pawns.

zand_stein 08-05-2007 01:34 AM

Whats wrong with other people.....
I cant understand some of them....

Porn Farmer 08-05-2007 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12876569)
?They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.?

?I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages, all of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva conventions.?

Hmm the guy that said this stood by and did nothing, yet he became a senator and presidential candidate... interesting..

And what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Nice to know stickybox content supports child rape and murder.

Scumbag.

hardcoreblogger 08-05-2007 02:55 AM

i wonder how many suich barbarian acts are committed by american troops against civilians in iraq and afghanistan that will never be tried in a courtroom

who 08-05-2007 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hardcoreblogger (Post 12876925)
i wonder how many suich barbarian acts are committed by american troops against civilians in iraq and afghanistan that will never be tried in a courtroom

I would say every single soldier either takes part in or passively observes some kind of heinous act like that. And how many soldiers are over there?

stickyfingerz 08-05-2007 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Porn Farmer (Post 12876769)
And what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Nice to know stickybox content supports child rape and murder.

Scumbag.

You (as is your norm) are a retard, and cant even understand the most basic concepts..

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 08-05-2007 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hardcoreblogger (Post 12876925)
i wonder how many suich barbarian acts are committed by american troops against civilians in iraq and afghanistan that will never be tried in a courtroom

Oh, they keep as much of this shit as hush hush as they can, without a doubt. Between the slightly less extreme yet still offensive acts that take place and the ones that no one ever get caught for, I'm sure she wasn't this was far from the first rape victim or innocent murdered family. At least they actually went ahead and dropped the hammer on these guys for what they did. It's more disgusting how many soldiers have gotten off with a slap on the wrist or less for equally as illegal acts...

J. Falcon 08-05-2007 11:49 AM

Thats what they're there for.

KILL_FRENZY 08-05-2007 02:48 PM

that sucks :Oh crap what it's wrong with this people

Aquarius 08-05-2007 02:53 PM

OMG, that's so fucked up.

Blue Player 08-05-2007 03:03 PM

Notice how the links to American crimes are British web sites while CNN reports on how the American troops killed an Iraqi who blew up a mosque.

Donald Rumsfiled does like revealing sources that help American prosecutions in such crimes. Maybe he is sending out a warning to troops not to report such crimes. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6930197.stm

Blue Player 08-05-2007 03:05 PM

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When the accused soldiers were finally removed from the base, he thought his troubles were over.

And then he was sitting in a crowded Iraqi canteen with hundreds of soldiers and Donald Rumsfeld came on the television to thank Joe Darby by name for handing in the photographs.

"I don't think it was an accident because those things are pretty much scripted," Mr Darby says.
Donald Rumsfield likes to reveal sources and is nearly as dumb as the president.

pornguy 08-05-2007 03:25 PM

More than 50% of the guys being sent back there are on Mental meds. WTF do they think is going to happen.

bizarrejan 08-05-2007 03:42 PM

dont like this thread, i have opinions for both sides, but am scared to share them

GreyWolf 08-05-2007 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 12881397)
More than 50% of the guys being sent back there are on Mental meds. WTF do they think is going to happen.

Valid point PG and fairly normal with any forces in a conflict scenario - especially over a time span.

On a personal/individual level when you know some of these people - some are just kids - it's hard to ignore what is reality for them. That damage will last long after this war is over.

The "blame" rests at a higher level - it's easy to have wars when your own family will never see a battle front. And, only my :2 cents:, it's criminal to engage and abuse troops under a false pretext - forgetting the higher numbers of innocent civilians likely to be killed.


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