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  • teenfeetcash
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2007
    • 527
    #1

    SEO Expert Needed

    Hey

    I am looking for a seo expert to initially seo one of our sites, we are looking for a monthly arrangement rather than a one time SEO.

    Please let me know if you are an SEO guru!
    Got Foot Traffic?

    http://www.teenfeetcash.com
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    • Dirty F
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2001
      • 59204
      #2
      I always find that tricky. I mean an seo guru would spend time on his own sites and make 10 times more than what you pay him.

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        • brand0n
          been very busy
          • Nov 2002
          • 26983
          #3
          seo experts dont work for others
          want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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            • zeruel
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2007
              • 1387
              #4
              Originally posted by brand0n
              seo experts dont work for others
              agree...

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                • TheDoc
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 13827
                  #5
                  Only 1% of the SEO Experts own the product they promote and only promote that product. As soon as you promote any affiliate other products/programs you are doing the work for someone else, making someone else money from your efforts, which 99% of SEO Experts do.

                  And optimizing a site for the search engines just takes a guru, not an expert. Building a backlink network that won't get banned, expands, and grows takes an expect.
                  ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                  It's all disambiguation

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                    • Cyber Fucker
                      Hmm
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 12642
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                      I always find that tricky. I mean an seo guru would spend time on his own sites and make 10 times more than what you pay him.
                      true that

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                        • scouser
                          marketer.
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2280
                          #7
                          Have to agree with whats been said, most seo experts won't do work for other people. Unless you're in a massive seo company and charge REALLY over priced amounts for small bits of work...

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                            • Vick!
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 6882
                              #8
                              Originally posted by brand0n
                              seo experts dont work for others
                              thats why I never sold my service
                              Affordable Quality Web Hosting

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                                • squizzel
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 900
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by brand0n
                                  seo experts dont work for others
                                  Just another total bullshit comment said on GFY with little / no thought. Have a medal There is a price on anyones expertise. And mine is about $200 per hour - 100 per hour on long term projects.

                                  This doesnt include labour, just strategies and consultation.
                                  Last edited by squizzel; 07-29-2007, 10:04 AM.

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                                    • hardcoreblogger
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2006
                                      • 761
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by squizzel
                                      Just another total bullshit comment said on GFY with little / no thought. Have a medal There is a price on anyones expertise. And mine is about $200 per hour - 100 per hour on long term projects.

                                      This doesnt include labour, just strategies and consultation.
                                      true experts charge much more than that


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                                        • Kevsh
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2004
                                          • 8619
                                          #11
                                          That sig has GOT to be illegal

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                                            • TheDoc
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 13827
                                              #12
                                              So out of all the "seo experts" that have posted here, what are your prices? I charge just about $200 an hour for se 'optimizations' that's actually a little high for optimization work.

                                              A project like this would take me about two weeks, since I have other clients too. This is about a $5,000 project, about 50 pages, about 20-30 hours of work.

                                              How many people here can put in only 20-30 hours of work and guarantee a $5,000 return, from your own se 'optimization' efforts? Not many, if any. That's why people offer the service, it's optimization not marketing.
                                              ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                              It's all disambiguation

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                                                • Klen
                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                  • 32235
                                                  #13
                                                  Seo optimization of site is piece of cake-it is enough to save code of first page with desired code and see how it function and that's it.

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                                                    • RawAlex
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                      • 9465
                                                      #14
                                                      Those who can do, those who can't do it for someone else.

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                                                        • skillfull
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                          • 4716
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                          Those who can do, those who can't do it for someone else.
                                                          untrue, i do both, for myself and for the SEO company i work for, just because it give me access to people and resource I wouln't have otherwise. And both are doing really great. I charge around 100$/hour for consulting, but I only do this if I like the project, and seriously, I'm not really in adult anymore, I prefer to do mainstream.
                                                          mind at underdark dot cc
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                                                            • woj
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                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 47882
                                                              #16
                                                              those who REALLY know what they are doing, wouldn't work for someone else, at least not for $100/hr... $100/hr translates to about $200k/year, which is chump change for someone who is good at seo...
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                                                                • TheJimmy
                                                                  ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 10747
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by skillfull
                                                                  untrue, i do both, for myself and for the SEO company i work for, just because it give me access to people and resource I wouln't have otherwise. And both are doing really great. I charge around 100$/hour for consulting, but I only do this if I like the project, and seriously, I'm not really in adult anymore, I prefer to do mainstream.
                                                                  mainstream is fun ;)
                                                                  Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

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                                                                    • MrChips
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                      • 1504
                                                                      #18
                                                                      NO SEO EVER sells his or her services - unless of course they are a failure.

                                                                      A truly skilled programmer who is highly competent at SEO is on target for becoming a multi-millionaire.

                                                                      200$ an hour - fuck that for a lark.

                                                                      Hi MrChips - can I have your latest project you are using to promote some of the largest retailers with for 200 dollars per hour.

                                                                      "Yeah sure - have it for free infact why dont you"

                                                                      You know - some people who want seo for nothing read NOOOOOOOOOOOB

                                                                      Im an SEO - Ive failed at it - got it right - failed at it - got it right - failed at it - got it right.

                                                                      It constantly changes..

                                                                      Want SEO?

                                                                      Dont go to a true SEO.

                                                                      ;)

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                                                                        • TheDoc
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 13827
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by MrChips
                                                                          Im an SEO - Ive failed at it - got it right - failed at it - got it right - failed at it - got it right.
                                                                          Exactly.. SEO experts focus in one type or related types of traffic streams to create revenue. If most of us focused our efforts into one type of traffic and revenue stream, we would be saying the same thing as you.

                                                                          For myself, I have created multiple revenue streams, from an affiliate program, content plugins, my own seo network, my own sites, domain buying, and a great deal of consulting for 200+ clients. Now, if I have a fail point with SEO or any other point of revenue, I don't take a kick straight in the balls because of it.

                                                                          When I take on any client, at $200 an hour my hourly income increases by that much. Since I have staff, I can manage multiple clients at once. I make money playing golf, sleeping or fucking.. But think how much more I make every hour that I am behind my computer.

                                                                          I made a fresh $500 today, doing a skin install. Lame labor work. Everything else, all this bullshit posting, I have gone to the park with the kids and played wii.. I took a few hours and made $500 while the kids napped.

                                                                          I wonder how well the SEO guys did today while doing nothing.
                                                                          ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                                          It's all disambiguation

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                                                                            • squizzel
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                              • 900
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                              So out of all the "seo experts" that have posted here, what are your prices? I charge just about $200 an hour for se 'optimizations' that's actually a little high for optimization work.

                                                                              A project like this would take me about two weeks, since I have other clients too. This is about a $5,000 project, about 50 pages, about 20-30 hours of work.

                                                                              How many people here can put in only 20-30 hours of work and guarantee a $5,000 return, from your own se 'optimization' efforts? Not many, if any. That's why people offer the service, it's optimization not marketing.
                                                                              I dont do optimization, i dont even do labor. I do strategies. That way im not wasting my time asking for paid links or fucking around with <h1> tags or other bullshit. I dont do grunt work.

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                                                                                • squizzel
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                  • 900
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by MrChips
                                                                                  NO SEO EVER sells his or her services - unless of course they are a failure.

                                                                                  A truly skilled programmer who is highly competent at SEO is on target for becoming a multi-millionaire.

                                                                                  200$ an hour - fuck that for a lark.

                                                                                  Hi MrChips - can I have your latest project you are using to promote some of the largest retailers with for 200 dollars per hour.

                                                                                  "Yeah sure - have it for free infact why dont you"

                                                                                  You know - some people who want seo for nothing read NOOOOOOOOOOOB

                                                                                  Im an SEO - Ive failed at it - got it right - failed at it - got it right - failed at it - got it right.

                                                                                  It constantly changes..

                                                                                  Want SEO?

                                                                                  Dont go to a true SEO.

                                                                                  ;)
                                                                                  These guys will beg to differ.

                                                                                  http://www.clientsidesem.com/seo-sem-services/

                                                                                  There are quality SEO companies. Basic SEO isnt rocket science but there is alot more to it then what people think.

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                                                                                    • squizzel
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                      • 900
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Seriously, the ammount of bullshit people talk on this forum infuriates me. Im sick of it. Please clue up.

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                                                                                        • tranza
                                                                                          ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                          • 57559
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Your sig is too big...
                                                                                          I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                            • TheDoc
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 13827
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by squizzel
                                                                                              I dont do optimization, i dont even do labor. I do strategies. That way im not wasting my time asking for paid links or fucking around with <h1> tags or other bullshit. I dont do grunt work.
                                                                                              Great, I have an amazing out-sourced staff that I have worked with for years. Difference is I don't train them in the art, I teach them to do the bulk work, then I have to complete a little grunt work.

                                                                                              But if you do no grunt work then you have the best trained seo staff, ever.. that's amazing man.
                                                                                              And how you stay up with the every growing changes and additions with never doing any labor.. even more amazing..
                                                                                              Last edited by TheDoc; 07-29-2007, 06:27 PM.
                                                                                              ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
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                                                                                                • WiredGuy
                                                                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                  • 34512
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                  I wonder how well the SEO guys did today while doing nothing.
                                                                                                  Please refrain from encouraging the possibility of making money from SEO. Thank you
                                                                                                  WG
                                                                                                  I play with Google.

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                                                                                                    • Jace
                                                                                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                                      • 35562
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                      Great, I have an amazing out-sourced staff that I have worked with for years. Difference is I don't train them in the art, I teach them to do the bulk work, then I have to complete a little grunt work.

                                                                                                      But if you do no grunt work then you have the best trained seo staff, ever.. that's amazing man.
                                                                                                      And how you stay up with the every growing changes and additions with never doing any labor.. even more amazing..
                                                                                                      squizzel is amazing, didn't you know?

                                                                                                      he is the king of seo

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                                                                                                        • TheDoc
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                          • 13827
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Jace
                                                                                                          squizzel is amazing, didn't you know?

                                                                                                          he is the king of seo
                                                                                                          Now this is some funnnny shit.. Thanks Jace.


                                                                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                          Please refrain from encouraging the possibility of making money from SEO. Thank you
                                                                                                          WG
                                                                                                          Oh yeah .. It's dead people, move along nothing to see here..

                                                                                                          This post has been closed by the administrator.
                                                                                                          ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                                                                          It's all disambiguation

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                                                                                                            • yahoo-xxx-girls.com
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                                                              • 3143
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Hi teenfeetcash

                                                                                                              I would have the time as to SEO for you, if your interested; just don't ask me to do "black SEO" because I cant stand cheats...

                                                                                                              If you have interest in my service please email me instead of posting your remarks here...

                                                                                                              My email address is: [email protected]

                                                                                                              Best of luck,

                                                                                                              .
                                                                                                              sig too big

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                                                                                                                • squizzel
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                  • 900
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  dude, this was regarding something very complex. SERVERSIDE.

                                                                                                                  Last time i checked u dont have any search engine traffic yourself and your damn sure not making what i make. All you do is fuck about with wordpress and do some onpage. Woopty doo! i dont see you ranking on the first page for free porn do i.

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                                                                                                                    • brand0n
                                                                                                                      been very busy
                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                      • 26983
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      id defently hire squizzel.. .right after he got done beating up lightspeeds staff...

                                                                                                                      im sure he would be a key part of any team

                                                                                                                      resident seo guru posted in this thread, and youll all notice.. he didnt post an offer, or a price.. just a quirp

                                                                                                                      wonder why...

                                                                                                                      now squizzel, dont you have some people to beat up or something? (boohoohahah)
                                                                                                                      want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                                                                                                        • Jace
                                                                                                                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                          • 35562
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by squizzel
                                                                                                                          dude, this was regarding something very complex. SERVERSIDE.

                                                                                                                          Last time i checked u dont have any search engine traffic yourself and your damn sure not making what i make. All you do is fuck about with wordpress and do some onpage. Woopty doo! i dont see you ranking on the first page for free porn do i.
                                                                                                                          I have no clue who are you are talking to, but if it is me

                                                                                                                          I have over 200 domains in google presently with top ranking keywords scattered everywhere, at least 200 #1 spots for prime keywords also

                                                                                                                          btw, did you even look at my reply, I quoted 2 threads there....the second was the funny one, not the first

                                                                                                                          and WHY THE FUCK would I want to be on page one of google for free porn, that isn't even something I aim for in the worst of times

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                                                                                                                            • Jace
                                                                                                                              FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                              • 35562
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by brand0n
                                                                                                                              id defently hire squizzel.. .right after he got done beating up lightspeeds staff...

                                                                                                                              im sure he would be a key part of any team

                                                                                                                              now squizzel, dont you have some people to beat up or something? (boohoohahah)

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                                                                                                                                • Jace
                                                                                                                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 35562
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by brand0n
                                                                                                                                  id defently hire squizzel.. .right after he got done beating up lightspeeds staff...

                                                                                                                                  im sure he would be a key part of any team

                                                                                                                                  resident seo guru posted in this thread, and youll all notice.. he didnt post an offer, or a price.. just a quirp

                                                                                                                                  wonder why...

                                                                                                                                  now squizzel, dont you have some people to beat up or something? (boohoohahah)
                                                                                                                                  btw, yo fool

                                                                                                                                  we are going to be planning a trip here soon - http://www.google.com/maps?q=Wilming...wloc=addr&om=1 - wanna meet us and hang out?

                                                                                                                                  it is one of the towns we are investigating moving to.....we heard it is a great place with a kickass beach

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                                                                                                                                    • brand0n
                                                                                                                                      been very busy
                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 26983
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      nice spot defently, and when? i mean dude im so busy i cant make internext, but fuck do i need a break

                                                                                                                                      lmk the details
                                                                                                                                      want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                                                                                                                        • Jace
                                                                                                                                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 35562
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by brand0n
                                                                                                                                          nice spot defently, and when? i mean dude im so busy i cant make internext, but fuck do i need a break

                                                                                                                                          lmk the details
                                                                                                                                          probably mid to late september, after internext we are chillin for a while, no fucking travelling

                                                                                                                                          going to new orleans for my birthday in oct though, you should come and get wasted with us for a few days

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                                                                                                                                            • squizzel
                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                              • 900
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Jace
                                                                                                                                              I have no clue who are you are talking to, but if it is me

                                                                                                                                              I have over 200 domains in google presently with top ranking keywords scattered everywhere, at least 200 #1 spots for prime keywords also

                                                                                                                                              btw, did you even look at my reply, I quoted 2 threads there....the second was the funny one, not the first

                                                                                                                                              and WHY THE FUCK would I want to be on page one of google for free porn, that isn't even something I aim for in the worst of times
                                                                                                                                              trophy term, to say that my dicks bigger then yours.

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                                                                                                                                                • squizzel
                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                  • 900
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  also jace, i think you stole my idea. SEO services, for links. Or was your sig like that before i started doing that... you are a joke and you copy me.

                                                                                                                                                  "Want a FREE seo blog install? email me - icq: 102893553
                                                                                                                                                  (I only require a few links from the blog to safe sites in my network)

                                                                                                                                                  MY SIG IS FOR SALE AGAIN! Click Here For Info"

                                                                                                                                                  http://alexa.com/data/details/traffi...astyboards.com hmmmmm i dont think your gonna beat that.
                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by squizzel; 07-29-2007, 08:40 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                    • brand0n
                                                                                                                                                      been very busy
                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 26983
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      hmm wrightsville or NO... heh

                                                                                                                                                      hit me on aim tomorrow.. i need a break and would love to give you the chance to bail me out
                                                                                                                                                      want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                                                                                                                                        • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 13827
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          I hope this guy gets some business done out of all this brainless chatter.
                                                                                                                                                          ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                                                                                                                          It's all disambiguation

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                                                                                                                                                            • brand0n
                                                                                                                                                              been very busy
                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 26983
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              who is this guy lol

                                                                                                                                                              dude, please go back and start up with LS.. that was pure comedy
                                                                                                                                                              want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Jace
                                                                                                                                                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                  • 35562
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by squizzel
                                                                                                                                                                  also jace, i think you stole my idea. SEO services, for links. Or was your sig like that before i started doing that... you are a joke and you copy me.

                                                                                                                                                                  "Want a FREE seo blog install? email me - icq: 102893553
                                                                                                                                                                  (I only require a few links from the blog to safe sites in my network)

                                                                                                                                                                  MY SIG IS FOR SALE AGAIN! Click Here For Info"

                                                                                                                                                                  http://alexa.com/data/details/traffi...astyboards.com hmmmmm i dont think your gonna beat that.
                                                                                                                                                                  OMFG, this post needs its own thread

                                                                                                                                                                  ATTN ATTN

                                                                                                                                                                  SQUIZZEL INVENTED TRADING SERVICES FOR LINKS

                                                                                                                                                                  squizzely, you sure are good for a laugh sometimes

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Jace
                                                                                                                                                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 35562
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by brand0n
                                                                                                                                                                      who is this guy lol

                                                                                                                                                                      dude, please go back and start up with LS.. that was pure comedy
                                                                                                                                                                      someone who has one good site and is an expert on everything

                                                                                                                                                                      sound familiar? probably because at least one of these fools comes along every 3-4 months on gfy, touts their shit for a month or two, then crashes and burns shortly thereafter

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                                                                                                                                                                        • brand0n
                                                                                                                                                                          been very busy
                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 26983
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          ah so hes stickyfingers offspring?

                                                                                                                                                                          why didnt someone fuckin say so?

                                                                                                                                                                          clears up EVERYTHING
                                                                                                                                                                          want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • shekinah
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                                              • 8452
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Sent you PM, check us out

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Cyndalie
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 3615
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                  SEO is a skill yes. Not every SEO wants to own and operate 100's of sites. Not every SEO wants the risk and responsibilities of owning and maintaining adult sites and publishing adult content. You SEO a site and build it out once, do it right the first time and it'll have good results for the long term. In order to make money you need to build out a lot of property, maintain it, host it, populate it with valuable content, and it ends up more of a web site business than actually SEO work. So if your specialty is SEO and you can make a couple hundred an hour optimizing others projects and moving on, without any over head, risk, etc, why not. Sure you can have your own stuff on the side, but honestly, anyone who thinks an SEO has nothing to gain by freelancing or working full time for a company as a key marketing personnel (with benefits and steady paycheck) is out of their minds. There are good and bad optimizers out there. The good are hard to find b/c they are particular about the work and clients they take on. Most good ones will analyze the site (code, goals, content) and decide if it's one they can help or not. It is very hands on, very labor intensive, and you get very involved in the web operations and business of your clients. Once the work is completed, believe it or not, the rest is out of the SEO's hands as well. Overwrites on site updates, infrastructure (code method) changes, dynamic elements, all of this comes into play. What most people don't realize is SEO comes into play during site development, including design, not as an afterthought. This is why it's in most web based companies best interest to retain someone with SEO skills in house, and they pay for it. While good optimization can result for the long term, growing means building , and an inhouse person keeps an eye on the best interest of marketing throughout development from initial to sustained. Believe it or not, these SEO's or "internet marketers" or "marketing directors" are paid well, can go home to their families and sleep without any worries about algorithm changes affecting their ability to pay bills or if their 100 sites are 2257 compliant or some shit.

                                                                                                                                                                                  To judge an SEO on their decisions on how they apply their skills is stupid. Judge them by the results from their work.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Cyndalie
                                                                                                                                                                                  Marketing Director
                                                                                                                                                                                  StoriesTraffic.com

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Vick!
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 6882
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      SEO don't waste time in keyboard fight. Only laborers do.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Affordable Quality Web Hosting

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 13827
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Vick!
                                                                                                                                                                                          SEO don't waste time in keyboard fight. Only laborers do.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Show me a person who does SEO and I will show you a laborer.
                                                                                                                                                                                          ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                                                                                                                                                          It's all disambiguation

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • NTM
                                                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 1087
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Jace
                                                                                                                                                                                              I have over 200 domains in google presently with top ranking keywords scattered everywhere, at least 200 #1 spots for prime keywords also
                                                                                                                                                                                              You are soo fucking full of shit

                                                                                                                                                                                              you have 200 domains ranking #1 for prime keywords and you still have to peddle your "blog seo optimization" services?

                                                                                                                                                                                              I seen your "seo'd' blogs - its total bunk.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • skillfull
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 4716
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Cyndalie
                                                                                                                                                                                                  LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                                  SEO is a skill yes. Not every SEO wants to own and operate 100's of sites. Not every SEO wants the risk and responsibilities of owning and maintaining adult sites and publishing adult content. You SEO a site and build it out once, do it right the first time and it'll have good results for the long term. In order to make money you need to build out a lot of property, maintain it, host it, populate it with valuable content, and it ends up more of a web site business than actually SEO work. So if your specialty is SEO and you can make a couple hundred an hour optimizing others projects and moving on, without any over head, risk, etc, why not. Sure you can have your own stuff on the side, but honestly, anyone who thinks an SEO has nothing to gain by freelancing or working full time for a company as a key marketing personnel (with benefits and steady paycheck) is out of their minds. There are good and bad optimizers out there. The good are hard to find b/c they are particular about the work and clients they take on. Most good ones will analyze the site (code, goals, content) and decide if it's one they can help or not. It is very hands on, very labor intensive, and you get very involved in the web operations and business of your clients. Once the work is completed, believe it or not, the rest is out of the SEO's hands as well. Overwrites on site updates, infrastructure (code method) changes, dynamic elements, all of this comes into play. What most people don't realize is SEO comes into play during site development, including design, not as an afterthought. This is why it's in most web based companies best interest to retain someone with SEO skills in house, and they pay for it. While good optimization can result for the long term, growing means building , and an inhouse person keeps an eye on the best interest of marketing throughout development from initial to sustained. Believe it or not, these SEO's or "internet marketers" or "marketing directors" are paid well, can go home to their families and sleep without any worries about algorithm changes affecting their ability to pay bills or if their 100 sites are 2257 compliant or some shit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  To judge an SEO on their decisions on how they apply their skills is stupid. Judge them by the results from their work.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  greatest reply on this thread, in fact, that my case.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I suck a design, i suck at programming and my english isn't perfect, so I do hire copywritter to write some content, make the optimization and that all I do for personal projects. I really prefer to go from clients to clients at my day job and work on differents projects. I do SEO, SEM and SMO, with some success (one of my client, mainstream project in difficult niche, started from scratch in May will end up July with more than 250 000 unique a month, must admit 30-50k from PPC but still, I like to work on that prject even if this is not the greatest hourly rate ever seen, i rpefer to do stuff i like that make tons of cash and hate my job)
                                                                                                                                                                                                  mind at underdark dot cc
                                                                                                                                                                                                  SEO Analyst
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Thunder-Ball.net - Member

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • MrChips
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 1504
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      SE Spammers of the world unite.

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