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Wilbo 07-24-2007 09:58 AM

Vinokourov tests positive; Astana withdraws from Tour
 
Vinokourov tests positive; Astana withdraws from Tour

Do you think there are any cyclists in the tour who don't use drugs?

Wilbo 07-24-2007 11:58 AM

I guess no one cares about the Tour since Lance retired :(

Profits of Doom 07-24-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilbo (Post 12809317)
I guess no one cares about the Tour since Lance retired :(

I was just going to say the same thing. The French really seemed to have it out for him, more so than just the normal doping athlete investigations...

Pryda 07-24-2007 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilbo (Post 12808392)
Do you think there are any cyclists in the tour who don't use drugs?

Yes, definitely. There were 211 drug tests since the beginning of the Tour and only one tested positive. Too bad that one was Vinokourov's :(

justsexxx 07-24-2007 12:23 PM

How stupid can you be...DOing blooddope which is easy to see in tests...I hope Rasmussen wins...Especially since the French hates him, and he is cycling for a Dutch team :)

Wilbo 07-24-2007 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx (Post 12809461)
How stupid can you be...DOing blooddope which is easy to see in tests...I hope Rasmussen wins...Especially since the French hates him, and he is cycling for a Dutch team :)

Rasmussen just had a former mountain biking buddy accuse him of doping. I think they should hold 2 tours, one for the dopers and one for the clean guys.

Sveindt Beindt 07-24-2007 01:08 PM

What a fool :helpme

Jensen 07-24-2007 01:24 PM

pretty bad for the clean riders.. seemes like they need to test all daily...not surpriced that if was an astana rider anyway.. they had close connections to fuentes... why they heck were they allowed on the tour?

btw, imagine if they tested us sports that much aswell..

justsexxx 07-24-2007 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilbo (Post 12809523)
Rasmussen just had a former mountain biking buddy accuse him of doping. I think they should hold 2 tours, one for the dopers and one for the clean guys.


Lol...And you believe everyone? Maybe the FORMER buddy is jealous...Rasmussen has been tested 14 times already during the tour, and NOTHING....

he-fox 07-24-2007 03:25 PM

"The Chicken" Rasmussen in yellow:thumbsup!

Wilbo 07-24-2007 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx (Post 12810221)
Lol...And you believe everyone? Maybe the FORMER buddy is jealous...Rasmussen has been tested 14 times already during the tour, and NOTHING....

Tour officials are pissed "for repeatedly failing to record his whereabouts for anti-doping purposes". I'm not saying he's guilty, just that there will be lots of questions if he wins.

d-null 07-24-2007 07:53 PM

the "clean" guys at that elite level are just guys that are being careful enough not to get caught

sonofsam 07-24-2007 08:01 PM

fuck it.....

Humpy Leftnut 07-24-2007 09:19 PM

It was a rookie mistake - he used the blood of a pregnant chick :/

justsexxx 07-25-2007 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilbo (Post 12810983)
Tour officials are pissed "for repeatedly failing to record his whereabouts for anti-doping purposes". I'm not saying he's guilty, just that there will be lots of questions if he wins.

Not true...Also the winey French always complain when foreigners are winning 'their' tour...

Not saying Rasmussen didn't ever use dope...Lol I wouldn't trust ANY of them...But he still was clean in ALL tests..14 already during the tour...Damn, they get tested more then junkies using drugs:)

chodadog 07-25-2007 03:45 AM

Have any of you guys seen the interview with David Millar about this?

http://www.velonews.com/vntv/?Art_ID=1350

VicD 07-25-2007 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilbo (Post 12808392)
Vinokourov tests positive; Astana withdraws from Tour

Do you think there are any cyclists in the tour who don't use drugs?

There are but not many :)

quantum-x 07-25-2007 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilbo (Post 12808392)
Vinokourov tests positive; Astana withdraws from Tour

Do you think there are any cyclists in the tour who don't use drugs?

If they're not using drugs, they're blood doping.

tranza 07-25-2007 07:22 AM

Wasn't Lance dopped too??

JP-pornshooter 07-25-2007 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by vicd (Post 12813540)
There are but not many :)

I really doubt there are any..
The other dane came forward and admitted doping, Lance Armstrong should do same..then it is in the open that recent all tour winners have used performace enhanced drugs (just like most american baseball players + football players).
For now, i say go Rasmussen!
And btw, Vino was already 30 minutes behind the leader, didnt have a realistic chance at the title..perhaps that was why he took the drugs.. to do the impossible...

johannes 07-25-2007 09:57 AM

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Rasmussen just had a former mountain biking buddy accuse him of doping. I think they should hold 2 tours, one for the dopers and one for the clean guys.
that is a great idea ;)

slapass 07-25-2007 10:36 AM

The biggest issue is that the lines are not as clear cut as we would like to think. The first guy to blood dope was not doing anything wrong and probably won with his advantage so then the others have to follow and once it is a crime who is the first to stop and start losing?

chodadog 07-25-2007 03:23 PM

And Rasmussen is out. Fired by his team for lying about his whereabouts prior to the race.

http://velonews.com/tour2007/details...s/12944.0.html

If he is a clean rider, then this is an extremely sad day. Not only was he able to stave off the attacks by Contador, he was able to accelerate away from him and gain a huge advantage in the last stage.

Wilbo 07-25-2007 04:06 PM

They better end this tour quickly while they still have a rider or two.


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