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I wouldn't recommend promoting melinnadecidestodie.com until something is cleared up

07-20-2007, 07:45 AM

Looks like this Melinna chick doesn't support this site. She's posting on other boards saying she wants it taken down.

Sorry, I won't be promoting it until this is cleared up. I don't recommend anyone else does either. The effort vs risk just doesn't jive.

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Hi i am Melinna from www.melinnadecidestodie.com & i am completly against the site infact i never wanted the site instead this guy paid me to do sets for apparently an all girl site & he would use any name, but instead this asshole decided to sell my sets to some guy & they made a whole site out of it, i have no idea how long this site will last since i only shot 40 sets & i wont be doing anymore sets with him since i want this site gone, but hopefully is gone soon, the only way i found out about it is cause i caught him promoting it on myspace, or else i would have never known. & my tattoo doesnt say sheila it says suelta it means free spirit in spanish.
He only thought about his own income when he paid me for the sets & did not think about my refusal to ever have my own site due to the fact that i have older brothers & they do know by melinna & know i like that book. I also think the name of the site is gay but thats not the point, the point it this site needs to be shut down cause is completly against my word & i don't even have a membership on the site so if you're signed up you are talking to some 30 year old guy, & i don't want a membership either cause i want it down.
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The issue is when we first started shooting he offered me a site & i said i didn't want a personal site just wanted to do some sets for other sites with any other random model name, but of course he was lying & just sold it to a webmaster & made it into a site & is using my name "real name" so it's just plain fucked up. I dont care what they do with the sets i am aware they own them, but to go & make a site with real info about me is not safe for me, but whatever enouigh with the drama it wont last with only 40 sets, i just hope no one signs up.
Goodbye.

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07-20-2007, 07:49 AM

I love this industry a little more every single day....

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07-20-2007, 07:49 AM

So much for reading that model release huh?

40 sets or not, they can pound it with enough filler from other sites to get some rebills.

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07-20-2007, 07:50 AM

if you're signed up you are talking to some 30 year old guy

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07-20-2007, 07:54 AM

All though the situation is fucked up and there are plenty of scumbags that fuck people over in this business, I still believe if your doing it and signing releases and your a consenting adult, it's the way it goes.

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07-20-2007, 07:54 AM

40 sets is awesome!

back in the day I only had 2 sets that I got out of "public domain"
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07-20-2007, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by Extreme John

All though the situation is fucked up and there are plenty of scumbags that fuck people over in this business, I still believe if your doing it and signing releases and your a consenting adult, it's the way it goes.

unless you specifically say you dont want to do something then that conversation is just as binding as a legal contract on paper

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07-20-2007, 07:56 AM

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07-20-2007, 07:56 AM

Call me crazy but I prefer to promote a site where the model is a willing participant, and she's going to be around to create more content.

Something here isn't right.

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07-20-2007, 07:58 AM

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unless you specifically say you dont want to do something then that conversation is just as binding as a legal contract on paper

Not unless there is a witness to it, or you have it recorded its not. 40 sets is what a lot of sites out there have total per girl. Not that that is a good thing. Personally I think a site should have a minimum of 120 sets for say 1.5 to 2 years. And should have at least 5 to 10 hours of video shot.
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07-20-2007, 07:59 AM

lol how did this other webmaster know its her favorite book? Probably someone she knows saw it and now its a whole different story.

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07-20-2007, 08:02 AM

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unless you specifically say you dont want to do something then that conversation is just as binding as a legal contract on paper

yeah just 10x harder to prove and who says she's telling the truth? Who says he didnt tell her, "Baby we are going to slam your shit all over the web! Your the next big thing!"

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07-20-2007, 08:38 AM

my tattoo doesnt say sheila it says suelta it means free spirit in spanish.

Hehe "Suelta" actually means "loose" in spanish.
There´s a tattoo to regret....

If she wanted free spirit it should say "espiritu libre" or just "libre"
I wonder how many tattoos that don´t mean what the person thinks it means are out there.Especially in chinese.

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07-20-2007, 08:47 AM

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07-20-2007, 08:52 AM

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07-20-2007, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by kektex

Hehe "Suelta" actually means "loose" in spanish.
There´s a tattoo to regret....

If she wanted free spirit it should say "espiritu libre" or just "libre"
I wonder how many tattoos that don´t mean what the person thinks it means are out there.Especially in chinese.

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07-20-2007, 08:59 AM

yeah, that sucks but depending on what she signed, he can sling it to anyone and they can make however many sites they want. i personally wouldnt touch a site with a girl that wasnt part of it. that is a nightmare for affiliates.

no chat shows
no real interaction with the girl
no content after a very short period.

i'd call that a battle in solo girl that i would not wanna touch from the owners side. its already crazy hard to compete in solo girl let alone sabotaging yourself with a limited amount of content and no girl to ever do a chat or interact with the members.
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07-20-2007, 09:00 AM

This should be interesting to say the least!

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07-20-2007, 09:16 AM

Wasnt it said that she was totally cool with the site title? Whats up with that?
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07-20-2007, 09:22 AM

I agree with her, the site name is very gay.
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07-20-2007, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by Extreme John

yeah just 10x harder to prove and who says she's telling the truth? Who says he didnt tell her, "Baby we are going to slam your shit all over the web! Your the next big thing!"

anything is possible

If the release says that he has the right to do with the photos and video as he sees fit, and that she has been paid, and releases that right, she does not have a leg to stand on in court.

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07-20-2007, 09:43 AM

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I agree with her, the site name is very gay.

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07-20-2007, 09:53 AM

but.. what if Melissa changes her mind and doesn't decide to die anymore??
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07-20-2007, 10:03 AM

She is very very cute.

She will sell and her complaint is BS IMHO but at 40 sets how well will it do?

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07-20-2007, 10:05 AM

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but.. what if Melissa changes her mind and doesn't decide to die anymore??

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07-20-2007, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by suesheboy

her complaint is BS IMHO

What exactly are you basing that opinion on?

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07-20-2007, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by pornguy

If the release says that he has the right to do with the photos and video as he sees fit, and that she has been paid, and releases that right, she does not have a leg to stand on in court.

Sounds like her biggest concern is that they guy used her real name and information on the site...
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07-21-2007, 02:54 AM

Originally posted by Scootermuze

Sounds like her biggest concern is that they guy used her real name and information on the site...

I could care less about her private concerns. Behind the camera (in real life) most of these girls are nightmares, so her comments aren't out of the ordinary. Many model/porn girls end up with regrets. That's life.

The biggest problem is the 40 total sets this site is rolling out with, with no more to be added. Recipe for solo site disaster.
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07-21-2007, 02:56 AM

So how does she decide to die?
I might worry about retention with that.

Keep us posted.
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07-21-2007, 03:09 AM

Shes hot.. It will sell.. says right on the tour there will be other "guest model galleries".. and if retention drops he gives access to his other sites...

*shrug*... site names sucks.. but if she signed the release than that's that.

At the end of the day.. even IF she was a part of the site, we all know that 6-12 months down the road most of the solo girls flake and you're left in this spot anyway.

But then again.. I've sort of given up on solo model sites as it is.. just not worth the risk and effort other than throwing up some FHGs and banners.
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07-21-2007, 03:17 AM

What's up with the rotation setup for the site? If that's cleared that up there might be affiliates interested in promoting. Is it 20 sets to start, with 1 update a week for 20 weeks for the site? That would allow for potentially 3 1/2 months of updates for the site. (the first 4 updates don't count, since they're included in the first purchase). There's also a mention of videos, so would like to know the total count.

The site mentions updating twice a week, so with the stated content count it's just not enough potential updates to the take the time. And raise the 1 month non recurring price to $35.00-$40.00. A $3 difference is not enough to steer people to the recurring price.
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07-21-2007, 03:51 AM

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if you're signed up you are talking to some 30 year old guy

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07-21-2007, 05:50 AM

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07-21-2007, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by CDSmith

What exactly are you basing that opinion on?

She better have in writing they were not making a solo site of her.

I call BS.

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07-21-2007, 06:09 AM

The girl doesn't really have a leg to stand on, but I do think the "decidestodie" part of the url is stupid anyway, and the least the webmaster could have done was make up a stage name for the girl instead of using her real life nickname.
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07-21-2007, 05:14 PM

We have more than 40 sets, we made sure to shoot a years worth of content updating twice a week.

Melinna is her stage name, she uses it for her modeling, including adult modeling. She signed a release with the photographer and the name she requested be used as her alias was Melinna. She is listed on Suicidegirls and several other paysites as Melinna, she joined SG and shot for those other paysites on her own volition, it had nothing to do with us. She doesn't mind using the name Melinna on any other paysite. Here is her SG profile: http://suicidegirls.com/girls/Melinna/.

She knew the site was coming, we wanted her to be apart of the site, when we asked her if she wanted to do camshows, she said 'yes', but because of reliability, things didn't work out. Now that the site has launched, she is creating as much drama as possible. We are speaking with her to resolve all those issues.

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07-21-2007, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by suesheboy

She better have in writing they were not making a solo site of her.

I call BS.

I, on the other hand, will "call BS" once more is known from her side.

As for their side...

Originally posted by WEC

We have more than 40 sets, we made sure to shoot a years worth of content updating twice a week.

Melinna is her stage name, she uses it for her modeling, including adult modeling. She signed a release with the photographer and the name she requested be used as her alias was Melinna. She is listed on Suicidegirls and several other paysites as Melinna, she joined SG and shot for those other paysites on her own volition, it had nothing to do with us. She doesn't mind using the name Melinna on any other paysite. Here is her SG profile: http://suicidegirls.com/girls/Melinna/.

She knew the site was coming, we wanted her to be apart of the site, when we asked her if she wanted to do camshows, she said 'yes', but because of reliability, things didn't work out. Now that the site has launched, she is creating as much drama as possible. We are speaking with her to resolve all those issues.

If that's all true then I suppose you have nothing to worry about.

Any chance you can get her to come and post confirmation of all that, or at least her side? Because I'm telling you straight out I won't touch a site much less putting work into promoting one where the model isn't in full support of it and actually wants it taken down.

I, like a lot of webmasters here have been burned before by this sort of solo girl horseshit.

I'm not giving you guys the gears, it would just be nice to be sure. That's all.

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07-21-2007, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by WEC

We have more than 40 sets, we made sure to shoot a years worth of content updating twice a week.

Melinna is her stage name, she uses it for her modeling, including adult modeling. She signed a release with the photographer and the name she requested be used as her alias was Melinna. She is listed on Suicidegirls and several other paysites as Melinna, she joined SG and shot for those other paysites on her own volition, it had nothing to do with us. She doesn't mind using the name Melinna on any other paysite. Here is her SG profile: http://suicidegirls.com/girls/Melinna/.

She knew the site was coming, we wanted her to be apart of the site, when we asked her if she wanted to do camshows, she said 'yes', but because of reliability, things didn't work out. Now that the site has launched, she is creating as much drama as possible. We are speaking with her to resolve all those issues.

Ok... But what were you kids smoking when you thought up the site's name? Did the conversation perhaps go something like:

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Alan: Hey, we need a name for this girl's porn site. Any ideas?
Bob: Well, y'know, the wife, she finds so many porn sites with obvious names in my bookmarks - "BlahBlahFuckers.com, BlahBlahTitty.com" - maybe we should go with something a bit covert.
Alan: I'm hearing you man, {takes a hit of crack}, and while we're covering up the whole name thing, why not go after the snuff market to?
Bob: {Taking a fucking huge injection of heroin} That's fucking dynamite Alan! We can kill two birds with one stone... although maybe not literally, as much as that could sell. So what you got in mind?
Alan: Hmmm.... Well, she was hard work, and everyone dies one day...
Bob: Yeah, yeah! And to cover that 2257 shit those peeps go on about, lets smack "decides" in there so it looks all nice and consensual!
Alan: Fucking genius! MelinnaDecidesToDie.com it is then...

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07-21-2007, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by CDSmith

I, on the other hand, will "call BS" once more is known from her side.

As for their side...

If that's all true then I suppose you have nothing to worry about.

Any chance you can get her to come and post confirmation of all that, or at least her side? Because I'm telling you straight out I won't touch a site much less putting work into promoting one where the model isn't in full support of it and actually wants it taken down.

I, like a lot of webmasters here have been burned before by this sort of solo girl horseshit.

I'm not giving you guys the gears, it would just be nice to be sure. That's all.

Why would you want the model to post? It's obvious already she has an agenda. There's 100's of sologirl sites in this position. Once the model is paid, then find a new boyfriend, Jesus, their parents find out, whatever ... they want the site taken down like it's a game.

Have no problems at all promoting this site if it has enough content for rebills and the program owns all the content.
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07-21-2007, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by CDSmith

If that's all true then I suppose you have nothing to worry about.

Any chance you can get her to come and post confirmation of all that, or at least her side? Because I'm telling you straight out I won't touch a site much less putting work into promoting one where the model isn't in full support of it and actually wants it taken down.

I, like a lot of webmasters here have been burned before by this sort of solo girl horseshit.

I'm not giving you guys the gears, it would just be nice to be sure. That's all.

We have nothing to worry about legally. I've spoken with her, she is requesting that we change the name of the site, which is possible, we can redirect traffic over to the new site so affiliates don't lose any sales. Apparently she uses Melinna for her modeling and she feels it will interfere with her modeling career. Searching for Melinna will bring up personal information related to modeling.

I'll ask her but I'd prefer we settle it privately and launch a new site if that will make her happy. I just hope that we don't have another incident after it launches. I've had issues with many models, they tend to change their mind daily and there is nothing we can do.

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07-21-2007, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by WEC

We have nothing to worry about legally. I've spoken with her, she is requesting that we change the name of the site, which is possible, we can redirect traffic over to the new site so affiliates don't lose any sales. Apparently she uses Melinna for her modeling and she feels it will interfere with her modeling career. Searching for Melinna will bring up personal information related to modeling.

I'll ask her but I'd prefer we settle it privately and launch a new site if that will make her happy. I just hope that we don't have another incident after it launches. I've had issues with many models, they tend to change their mind daily and there is nothing we can do.

How exactly is this "redirection" going to happen? This is where shit get sloppy and fucked up.
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07-21-2007, 05:59 PM

Eveyone is fooled as now the site gets noticed, Whats the visitor count now?
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07-21-2007, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by commonsense

Why would you want the model to post? It's obvious already she has an agenda. There's 100's of sologirl sites in this position. Once the model is paid, then find a new boyfriend, Jesus, their parents find out, whatever ... they want the site taken down like it's a game.

Have no problems at all promoting this site if it has enough content for rebills and the program owns all the content.

She's already posted on other boards, look up and you'll see what she said.

Do what you want, no one is stopping you. I simply won't touch a site where the model is hell-bent on having it taken down, that's all. There are also plenty of solo girl sites where the model is a full and willing participant. In many cases the girl herself is her own webmaster and does all her own content.

At the very least I don't think it's too cautious of me to want to make sure no one is miserable, getting screwed or gunning for the site with their lawyer before I start spending hours promoting it.

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07-21-2007, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by commonsense

How exactly is this "redirection" going to happen? This is where shit get sloppy and fucked up.

Not sure yet, but the affiliate id will be included in the redirect. We'll figure out the best way and send out an affiliate email when this happens. We'll speak with CCBill if necessary.

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07-21-2007, 06:14 PM

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Eveyone is fooled as now the site gets noticed, Whats the visitor count now?

That was exactly the purpose of the name, it will get discussed all over the net. I wasn't a fan of the name, it was more a test case, if it doesn't work, we'll move on. Melinna posting obviously gave it more attention, but it also hurt the site. The visitor count didn't skyrocket because of her, it already had a lot of attention, its remained constant over the past few days.

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07-21-2007, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by WEC

That was exactly the purpose of the name, it will get discussed all over the net. I wasn't a fan of the name, it was more a test case, if it doesn't work, we'll move on. Melinna posting obviously gave it more attention, but it also hurt the site. The visitor count didn't skyrocket because of her, it already had a lot of attention, its remained constant over the past few days.

I actually have no issue with the name, I realize it's all done in the spirit of fantasy anyway. it adds to the way she comes off as dark, kind of a deep thinker in a way, and a tad disturbed. A lot of guys out there, especially in the fetish community, will no doubt be drawn to her, and to the site.

Of course it would be a much more cohesive project if you had her ongoing willing participation. Have you tried waving a larger wad of cash under her nose to get her back on board?

Might be a tactic to consider 6 months from now if the site really takes off.

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07-21-2007, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by CDSmith

Of course it would be a much more cohesive project if you had her ongoing willing participation. Have you tried waving a larger wad of cash under her nose to get her back on board?

Might be a tactic to consider 6 months from now if the site really takes off.

Yes, thats exactly why we want to keep her happy, we're hoping she'll become involved at some point. I'll speak with her some more, resolve all issues she has with a site, and move from there. She could do well on a solo site, however dedication and reliability are major concerns. If she were involved, I'd be explaining to members on a weekly basis why a camshow was missed.

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07-21-2007, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by WEC

Yes, thats exactly why we want to keep her happy, we're hoping she'll become involved at some point. I'll speak with her some more, resolve all issues she has with a site, and move from there. She could do well on a solo site, however dedication and reliability are major concerns. If she were involved, I'd be explaining to members on a weekly basis why a camshow was missed.

Do keep this thread updated.

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