I'm curious. Who continues to promote EpicTrash knowing Trey wants out?
 

Pimpledoggy has made it very clear he wants out the biz, saying things like "I can't wait to be out of this business"... It appears he's been selling off a bunch of stuff... His focus appears to have shifted to more "acceptable" businesses... He's tried to sell the company on several occasions and there's been no takers. So if you're still promoting it, do you think it won't end up being abondoned? That someone will step in at the last minute and buy it up cheap? Just curious what the thought process is behind continuing to promote the program with all these signs that I would consider high risk as an affiliate.

ooooooh this might be a good one

I said this months ago and his side kick told me to shut the fuck up LOL,

Nah... I'd just like to see what their affiliates really think.

The funny thing about Epic Cash, is that simply it is still one of the better converting programs. It has the sites, the content, and the background.

Some of you guys may not like Trey. Maybe he said something that pissed you off, maybe he did something that pissed you off, but one SIMPLE FACT REMAINS! Epic Cash Pays. We dont have all the BULLSHIT that most of the other programs do.

And I personally do my best to work with any and all affiliates that we have. Cant say the same for MOST of the other programs that I have ever promoted.

Who told you that?

I personally could care less who owns it if they make me money. Epic Cams does alright for me so I push it. When it stops, I'll stop pushing it. I could careless if pimpdog owns it or the pope.

Spoken from the wallet. Smart man, and thats what I have been saying all along. If you let your feelings get in the way of dollar billing going into your pockets, then you are fucked up in the head.

So have you set your stuff up so you can pull the plug in a moments notice? As for EpicCams, why would you stick with them when they're just white lableing the moneytree streamate cams just like AdultPlayersClub, CamCrush and more do. Don't know what Epic offers, maybe they have some tools the others don't, but you might actually make more money going direct to the source. I think it's $35 per free join thru MoneyTree or 30% revshare.

When you decide to down talk a program, it is usually wise to know a lot about them before you do.

One of the things that EpicCams offers that most others dont, is simply, we pay on the 1$ join, weather they spend any money or not in the program. Most dont pay you unless they by credits right away.

Not sure who told you to shut the fuck up. We are overall nice guys as some of you have met me at the conventions.

Speaking of Epic Cams

Tier Payout for Epic Cams $1 Lifetime Joins
Joins Per Period
Payout Per Join
Signup costs the user $1.00 to signup with Epic Cams. 1
-10 $32
11-20 $37
21-30 $42
31-50 $47
51-100 $52
100+ $57

Tier Payout for Epic Cams FREE Lifetime Joins
Joins Per Period
Payout Per Join
This is absolutely free for the user to signup with Epic Cams.(the user DOES NOT have to spend any money for you to get the signup)
1-10 $27
11-20 $32
21-30 $37
31-50 $42
51-100 $47
100+ $52

hrmmm epic cash...


i need some new sponsors...


I dunno...

dog farts stink...

rumors stink too...

who do I believe...

a smelly dog or a wet dog

sometimes a smelly dog is wet too....

Only way to do it :thumbsup

how much does he want for it?

If I ran a sponsor program, affiliates would probably find my pubic hair on their checks because I'd rub them all over my nuts before I stuff them into their envelopes out of pure frustration. I'd make sure the payouts were pretty tight, though.

Having said that, as long as you're still being paid on time and what you're owed, and you have certain fail-safes in place just in case you need to quickly pull all your links, then it shouldn't really matter.

Then again, I don't promote EpicCash, and it would probably only take one bad experience akin to what Tempest proposed for me to reverse my opinion. :2 cents:

we will never put our affiliates at risk by just closing the doors.
it wont happen.

I dont fuck my affiliates, so there will never be a need to be able to pull all links at a moments notice unless the govt makes what we do illegal.

its that simple./

so tempest, you can shut the fuck up.

3 million

you going to beleive some idiot that has always hated epiccash and myself, or the owner of the program(me)?


we will never put affiliates in a position where they have to worry about that, if i sell epic, it will go to someone else that will run the program. business as usual.

rumors are rumors. simply not true.

Im telling you all now, that the scenerio that that idiot tempest is saying will not happen.

We should all have our stuff setup to pull the plug at a moments notice on a sponsor. Sponsors come and go all the time (even ones that were "cool" on the boards). Epic has been around longer then most.

I know what Epic does with cams. I don't push them exclusively, nor are they even my top cam sponsor. I push between 5-10 cam sponsors. They each have unique positives and negatives. I will say that Epic has never missed a payment, had "problems with stats", or any other garbage I've seen out there. While I agree they aren't the best, they are one of the most reliable.

I'll add this too. I'm not an Epic fan or anything. I could really careless what they do on the boards. I'm just a fan of making money. Choosing to promote or not promote a sponsor based on their actions on a board usually only hurts yourself.

Do you want to buy a smaller house one day and tell your wife it's because someone was mean on a internet message board a few years back? Tell your kid they won't have as much for college because you put your foot down on a board troll 15 years ago? Sure you'll feel better in the short run, can puff your chest out and smile to your colleagues. But if a company makes you more money then another, why would you give two shits what they do on a message board? I guess I just put my own well being and that of my family ahead of message boards. In the grand scheme of things, my bank account doesn't give a shit what p1mpdogg says.

And this goes for both sides of the fence. There are the nice companies who will kiss your ass all day long. If they can't make you money, who gives a shit? The only thing that matters in the end is how much money you make. How well you can support your family and yourself. The rest is just message board bullshit that you won't give a shit about in 3 months.

Epic Cash rock! :thumbsup

hmmmm... streamate/moneytreepay on free ignup (creditcard verification only)... so I think he knows more about them as you do...

Trey doesnt own epiccash. At least not all of it.

really? who owns the rest? this is news to me.

god damn right we do!

wats epiccash?

http://www.jupzchris.com/epic.jpg

surely we can get you converting better than that with us!

just hit one of us up!

guys need more sites with exclusive reality content

I don't hate you or EpicTrash. Funny thing is that I suspect I did some stuff with you (media maybe?) years back when you just got going. Never cared enough to check for sure though.

Really? And the man who hides his other companies from everyone because he knows his "fake persona" costs him money should be trusted? Or the ex-con who happily sold advertising space to a company ripping off sufers? That's funny.

Where are the rumors by the way. Isn't what I posted either fact or a possible scenario given the history of this business? Look at what's happened to ARS without Marc De at the helm and how everyone whined and complained and jumped ship. In this case there's some pretty strong indicators so nobody should bitch if it does happen since it will be their own fault for not paying attention.

But I wanted to hear from affiliates, not you Trey.. Few are showing up.

few are showing up because what you posted is a joke and just trying to stir up shit for no reason at all.

why are you so concerned about me and what i do?

are you jealous? is that what this is really all about? that Im making a killing online and you arent doing so hot?

try worrying about your own shit, maybe you will do better?

Epic isnt going anywhere anytime soon. It will be ran like it has been over the last 5 years. honestly and paying on time and converting very good.

That's just the Epic company line that they've done a good job of making people believe is a "truth". It's not. There's far too many programs out there that have good/great conversions and great support without all the "bad ass" antics. So we can choose. So when comparing company A with company B, why go with company B if you think they're morons. It's not costing me anything in terms of revenue given I've got the same amount of traffic, the same amount of "spots" in which to sell things regardless of which company I choose to promote. So if they convert the same I'm not hurting myself in any way. Epic just wants affiliates to buy into their fake "truth". Because if affiliates didn't, they'd end up with even less people promoting them.

That's exactly what it is... I go to sleep dreaming about being a bad ass player like you... But then that's what you think about everyone, even those that have a shit load more money than you ever will.

In reality, I respect you in that you were able to be successful inspite of yourself. But I don't have to respect how you did it or respect you for thinking you had to do it the way you did.

I've just wondered if the affiliates have been paying attention to what's been going on or not.

Stop wasting your time responding to me Trey... I'm a nobody and mean nothing to you. Send in one of your pit bulls like Jimmy boy or use one of your fake nicks at least.

never promoted them. Good publicity.

that's not out of my price range.. if you want to send me more details please send to webmaster at webcams.com

Whatever we discuss would be strictly confidential.

How many years net multiple is that. I know some people looking :thumbsup

you are right, you are a nobody. and I choose to reply to you because I am bored and inbetween tasks at the moment.

you think you are hurting my company but you are not i assure you. we are far to established and well known for some keyboard warrior to come on here and start flapping his lips about nothing and it actually having any effect.

I think you really are jealous and it pisses you off to see me get away with the things that i do on here and talk the trash i talk and still make a killing at the same time.

if you tried this hard to make yourself more successful, then you might actually get soemwhere. stop hating and start playing the game my man, youll be much happier.

this is a game you know right? and its one i am pretty good at playing i must admit.

enjoy your next few posts, I have something i need todo, bbl

ive done this too many times to count, send me an nda and we can talk. too many ppl claikm to have money and dont have shit on here its pathetic. not saying you dont, im just saying i dont want to waste anyones time. so send me an nda and we can talk

Email me this, please:

* Your contact email
* Company name
* Company incorporation location (State/Province & Country)

I'll send one over straight away.

If they pay, they are OK.

:)

since you didnt provide an email ill post it here

trey @ epiccash.com

las vegas,NV USA

EpicCash llc

sorry, sent

You're slipping.. You forgot your EpicTrash referal link.

That dont look so good...I can make that much off 3k uniques

I never push Epic Cash and never will. I am old school when it comes to respect, you can't respect me, then there is no way I will push anything in your direction. Plenty of others that will take it and pay on time.

Trey can suck my balls and when he is done he can send his mother over.

my mom died in 1999, I will be sure to let her know about your request though when i meet her again

I don't think he has any more side kicks now though, they all left the company.

last i checked epic Jim owned 37.5% and JTF owned 12.6% and combined they have a majority ownership.

















you know i just messing with you.

Since your question was directed towards affiliates.....

I continue to promote them, and I do so, because they have great tools, good support, convert well and pay out on time.

I dont give a shit about drama, or what people think of the owners. From my end, everything is great.

As much as I enjoying seeing EpicTrash made a fool of... or should I say making fools of themselves, those stats are completely misleading. Even if those 15k raw were to 1 site, 14 sales is reasonable in this day and age for the types of sites they are, the age of them etc. But the reality is that those 15k its were probably spread amongst many sites. They have something like 40+ odd sites which would only be 300-400 hits a site. No, not fantastic conversions but not all that bad either. You send a bunch of site maybe 200 hits with no conversions and a few others more traffic that convert at 1:500 or so and those are what the overall numbers would look like.

As an example, I send traffic to a lot of differnet sites at pimproll.. Over all this year I'm 1:549 unique, 1:615 raw. But I've got some really bad conversions in there. One site is 1:4941, my best is 1:206 in volume. My overall conversion rate would be even worse though if I didn't keep on top of it and shift traffic to fresher sites. The older ones convert like crap usually.