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Blue Player 07-01-2007 05:32 PM

American Football V Rugby
 
Being part Maori and born in Auckland I always dream of the day the Americans go against the All Blacks.

American Football really is a piece of shit.

buzzy 07-01-2007 05:33 PM

well said they are pussys who use pads and shit bunch of girls any rugby team would tear them apart

Alky 07-01-2007 05:33 PM

Thanks for your opinion... haha.

Blue Player 07-01-2007 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 12688529)
well said they are pussys who use pads and shit bunch of girls any rugby team would tear them apart

John Wilkinson could probably do them on his own.:thumbsup

Blue Player 07-01-2007 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alky (Post 12688531)
Thanks for your opinion... haha.

You may find my opinion is also the worlds opinion.:321GFY

Alky 07-01-2007 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Player (Post 12688538)
You may find my opinion is also the worlds opinion.:321GFY

My opinion and the worlds is that they are completely different sports, now go fuck off you kiwi.

buzzy 07-01-2007 05:39 PM

american football is for pussys

bushwacker 07-01-2007 05:55 PM

our highschool football teams here would destroy your rugby teams.

FreeHugeMovies 07-01-2007 06:18 PM

I've played HS football in the US and I've been playing rugby since college. Both sports are really great to watch and play. I enjoy watching football just as much as I enjoy watching great rugby matches.

I believe the NFL has the best athletes in the world. USA Rugby is very poor bc. It isn’t a professional sport. Maybe one day we will have professional rugby in the US.

buzzy 07-01-2007 06:28 PM

your loss

aico 07-01-2007 06:32 PM

Ya, American Football sucks... Thats why one 30 second ad during the Superbowl could fund the whole Rugby league for 10 years.

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 08:39 PM

American Football is the most violent team sport in the world. In case you dont know, there is a reason why players use pads and helmets in American Foootball. It cannot be played without them.

In Rugby you can only hit the guy with the ball - In football everyone gets hit.
In Rugby there are not blindside hits - In Football you can get from any side at any given time.
In Rugby there are not head-on, automobile-style collisions - In football there is practically one in every play.
In Rugby blocking is not allowed - In Football you can get killed during a block

Another point is that pads and helmets are not only used to protect, they are used to hit. Simply compare the amount and seriousness of injuries in pro football to those in rugby and there is a clear difference.

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 08:44 PM

Furthermore, not only is american football more violent, it is of a much more violent mentality. It is a war-like game with war-like strategies, war-like terms and, like I said, war life mentality. It is impossible to talk about football if you never put on the pads.

buzzy 07-01-2007 08:45 PM

ok fair points but please tell me

why do you call it football?

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alky (Post 12688548)
My opinion and the worlds is that they are completely different sports, now go fuck off you kiwi.

Some people just like to talk out their ass.

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 12689055)
ok fair points but please tell me

why do you call it football?


Beats me :(

tical 07-01-2007 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 12689040)
American Football is the most violent team sport in the world. In case you dont know, there is a reason why players use pads and helmets in American Foootball. It cannot be played without them.

In Rugby you can only hit the guy with the ball - In football everyone gets hit.
In Rugby there are not blindside hits - In Football you can get from any side at any given time.
In Rugby there are not head-on, automobile-style collisions - In football there is practically one in every play.
In Rugby blocking is not allowed - In Football you can get killed during a block

Another point is that pads and helmets are not only used to protect, they are used to hit. Simply compare the amount and seriousness of injuries in pro football to those in rugby and there is a clear difference.

noiceeeeee :thumbsup

tranza 07-01-2007 08:50 PM

I've never really watched a rugby match, so I can't compare.

:2 cents:

Drake 07-01-2007 08:55 PM

If they didn't wear pads in American Football, there would be serious injuries or deaths every game.

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 12688554)
american football is for pussys

http://www.exclusivesportsandpromoti...joeyporter.jpg


Yeah right...

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 09:01 PM

Im sure Jerry Porter can eat any rugby player alive.

FreeHugeMovies 07-01-2007 09:37 PM

In Rugby you can only hit the guy with the ball - In football everyone gets hit.

Technically that is wrong. You can get hit in a maul and during a ruck.

In Rugby there are not blindside hits - In Football you can get from any side at any given time.

Wrong again as you can't heat a player outside the tackle box from behind.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 12689040)
American Football is the most violent team sport in the world. In case you dont know, there is a reason why players use pads and helmets in American Foootball. It cannot be played without them.

In Rugby you can only hit the guy with the ball - In football everyone gets hit.
In Rugby there are not blindside hits - In Football you can get from any side at any given time.
In Rugby there are not head-on, automobile-style collisions - In football there is practically one in every play.
In Rugby blocking is not allowed - In Football you can get killed during a block

Another point is that pads and helmets are not only used to protect, they are used to hit. Simply compare the amount and seriousness of injuries in pro football to those in rugby and there is a clear difference.


J. Falcon 07-01-2007 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies (Post 12689167)
In Rugby you can only hit the guy with the ball - In football everyone gets hit.

Technically that is wrong. You can get hit in a maul and during a ruck.

In Rugby there are not blindside hits - In Football you can get from any side at any given time.

Wrong again as you can't heat a player outside the tackle box from behind.

Can you please explain?

FreeHugeMovies 07-01-2007 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 12689177)
Can you please explain?


Explain what? The rugby stuff or football? Please be specific.

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies (Post 12689241)
Explain what? The rugby stuff or football? Please be specific.

I dont understand the points you made above. You were talking about rugby right?

In the second point you said: "Wrong again as you can't hit a player outside the tackle box from behind."

Were you talking about football or rugby?

wyldworx 07-01-2007 10:38 PM

I played rugby, and I beleive that as the years go on and more and more insurance premium increases etc. etc. we have seen the game get a tad softer on all fronts.

American league certainly is not pussy from where i sit, it is totally diffrent tactically, and technique wise and would excert just as many strains on the human body as rugby would. They hit without conscience where-as rugby in my mind always had a sense of respect for my foe at the same time as test both our limits. I played a range of positions including breakaway, centre and a short stint as hooker(gained a few kilo's at one stage) until i dislocated my shoulders in a scrum that collapsed.

he-fox 07-01-2007 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 12689040)
American Football is the most violent team sport in the world. In case you dont know, there is a reason why players use pads and helmets in American Foootball. It cannot be played without them.

In Rugby you can only hit the guy with the ball - In football everyone gets hit.
In Rugby there are not blindside hits - In Football you can get from any side at any given time.
In Rugby there are not head-on, automobile-style collisions - In football there is practically one in every play.
In Rugby blocking is not allowed - In Football you can get killed during a block

Another point is that pads and helmets are not only used to protect, they are used to hit. Simply compare the amount and seriousness of injuries in pro football to those in rugby and there is a clear difference.

You obviously did not see many rugby matches, because you're wrong. I recommend you to watch the World Cup, in September this year.

Rugby is a fair-play sport, not a "war". Only think that those men are wearing 1 inch nails shoes which can easily be use to crack heads in a mawl, but they avoid stepping on each other's heads.

A rugby player is in continuous movement almost all the 80 minutes of the game.
Most of the "football" players only play effectively a few minutes. Quite athletes there. 90% of them could not finish a rugby game, they would choke on the field, I'm talking especially about the defense players.

And, above all, "football" is a derivate of rugby, anybody can see that, since rugby was invented in the 19th century, then brought in and modified in America.

I'm not putting down american "football", since I enjoy watching it, but rugby is more of a men sport in my book. But that's just me.:2 cents:

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 12689341)
You obviously did not see many rugby matches, because you're wrong. I recommend you to watch the World Cup, in September this year.

Rugby is a fair-play sport, not a "war". Only think that those men are wearing 1 inch nails shoes which can easily be use to crack heads in a mawl, but they avoid stepping on each other's heads.

A rugby player is in continuous movement almost all the 80 minutes of the game.
Most of the "football" players only play effectively a few minutes. Quite athletes there. 90% of them could not finish a rugby game, they would choke on the field, I'm talking especially about the defense players.

And, above all, "football" is a derivate of rugby, anybody can see that, since rugby was invented in the 19th century, then brought in and modified in America.

I'm not putting down american "football", since I enjoy watching it, but rugby is more of a men sport in my book. But that's just me.:2 cents:

Dude thats all fine and I agree with some of the things you said, but I don't see you proving that I'm wrong at all. In fact your post has nothing to do with mine.

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 12689341)

A rugby player is in continuous movement almost all the 80 minutes of the game.
Most of the "football" players only play effectively a few minutes. Quite athletes there. 90% of them could not finish a rugby game, they would choke on the field, I'm talking especially about the defense players.

Cornerbacks, safties, running backs and wide receivers can run laps around any rugby player. Those guys are physically gifted.

he-fox 07-01-2007 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 12689365)
Cornerbacks, safties, running backs and wide receivers can run laps around any rugby player. Those guys are physically gifted.

In your imagination, maybe. Please try to be objective. They are at the same level as a rugby player.

What about those defense boys?

he-fox 07-01-2007 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 12689353)
Dude thats all fine and I agree with some of the things you said, but I don't see you proving that I'm wrong at all. In fact your post has nothing to do with mine.

of course it does, read the first line, please. I recommend you to watch some rugby and you'll see you are completely wrong.

million 07-01-2007 11:07 PM

I don't fully understand American Football yet

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 12689377)
In your imagination, maybe. Please try to be objective. They are at the same level as a rugby player.

What about those defense boys?

Corners and safties are defense.

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 12689384)
of course it does, read the first line, please. I recommend you to watch some rugby and you'll see you are completely wrong.

If I am wrong then please show me where I am wrong in my post. Dont just say you're wrong and talk about something else.

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 11:15 PM

Please tell me which Rugby plater is faster than Devin Hester


https://youtube.com/watch?v=ThllglEsDZA

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 11:20 PM

Please name a Rugby player with more skills and/or speed than Barry Sanders


https://youtube.com/watch?v=U-szKE2FXDQ

he-fox 07-01-2007 11:27 PM

In Rugby you can only hit the guy with the ball - In the mawls everything is about physical contact. Of course, it's about fighting for the ball, not violence.
In Rugby there are not blindside hits - you've never seen a tackle from the back, while running?
In Rugby there are not head-on, automobile-style collisions - mawls, front tackles, penetrations.
Blocking is not allowed, indeed, but in the mawls, which are kinda the same thing, you can get killed, too, if someone steps with a 1 inch nail and 250 lbs on your chest or head.

Simply compare the amount and seriousness of injuries in pro football to those in rugby and there is a clear difference. - I doubt that. Prove it.

he-fox 07-01-2007 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 12689449)
Please tell me which Rugby plater is faster than Devin Hester


https://youtube.com/watch?v=ThllglEsDZA

Jonah Lomu. But he's way more powerful:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=V57B_hCsgbw

he-fox 07-01-2007 11:32 PM

that's it. I'm out of this. comparing players that play different games is stupid.

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 12689510)
Jonah Lomu. But he's way more powerful:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=V57B_hCsgbw

I dont think he's half as fast, but ok.

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 12689517)
that's it. I'm out of this. comparing players that play different games is stupid.


Ok man, you're right. Cool video!

he-fox 07-01-2007 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 12689527)
I dont think he's half as fast, but ok.

actually he ran 100 meters under 11 secs.

Does your player run 100 meters in 5.5 secs?:1orglaugh

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 12689533)
actually he ran 100 meters under 11 secs.

Does your player run 100 meters in 5.5 secs?:1orglaugh


Well if you're asking it means you dont know, doesnt it?

he-fox 07-01-2007 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 12689040)
American Football is the most violent team sport in the world. In case you dont know, there is a reason why players use pads and helmets in American Foootball. It cannot be played without them.

In Rugby you can only hit the guy with the ball - In football everyone gets hit.
In Rugby there are not blindside hits - In Football you can get from any side at any given time.
In Rugby there are not head-on, automobile-style collisions - In football there is practically one in every play.
In Rugby blocking is not allowed - In Football you can get killed during a block

Another point is that pads and helmets are not only used to protect, they are used to hit. Simply compare the amount and seriousness of injuries in pro football to those in rugby and there is a clear difference.

here's some babreback rugby hits:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tc0Ut5y-GRc

nuff said:2 cents:

NaughtyRob 07-01-2007 11:48 PM

I love them both. Rugby is fun because they never stop.

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 12689565)
here's some babreback rugby hits:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tc0Ut5y-GRc

nuff said:2 cents:

Oh yeah you definitely won now. :upsidedow

he-fox 07-01-2007 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 12689552)
Well if you're asking it means you dont know, doesnt it?

dude, the world 100 m record is 9.77 secs, I was just pointing at your biased opinion.

maybe that player of yours is some kind of superman, who knows?

Evil1 07-01-2007 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 12689341)
rugby is more of a men sport in my book.

rugby, the game where players shove their fingers in other guys asses.
http://www.mattcleary.com/hoppa.jpg

No fucking thanks

he-fox 07-01-2007 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GetNaughty (Post 12689567)
I love them both. Rugby is fun because they never stop.

:thumbsup

J. Falcon 07-01-2007 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil1 (Post 12689581)
rugby, the game where players shove their fingers in other guys asses.
http://www.mattcleary.com/hoppa.jpg

No fucking thanks

Thats not fair Im sure football players do that and much worse.


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