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headless ghost 06-26-2007 08:19 AM

US Porn Spammers GUILTY! We Got Your Ass NOW!
 
http://www.theregister.com/2007/06/2...m_convictions/

US porn spammers guilty as charged
Canned by CAN-SPAM
By Drew Cullen → More by this author
Published Tuesday 26th June 2007 01:12 GMT
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Two men who ran a spam operation to promote pornographic websites had the book thrown at them today. A federal jury in Phoenix, Arizona convicted Jeffrey Kilbride, 41, of Venice, California and James Schaffer, 41 of Paradise Valley, Arizona of eight counts, including conspiracy, fraud, money laundering, and transportation of obscene materials.

In 2003, Kilbride and Schaffer set up a spamming operation to promote pornography sites. They earned $2m in commission from porn site operators for the traffic generated from the emails. Hard-core porn was embedded in each email, which meant that anyone who opened the email could see it.

Kilbride and Schaffer did not let the CAN-SPAM Act, which banned the distribution of multiple electronic commercial mail messages containing falsified header information, stand in their way.

When the law came into effect on Jan 1, 2004, they simply logged onto servers in Amsterdam, to make it seem like their email came from outside the US. Also, the 'from' names and email addresses were different from the 'reply to' addresses, so recipients could not identify the sender or reply to email.

In another violation of CAN-SPAM, the domain names used to send the spam were registered in the name of a "fictitious employee at a shell corporation Kilbride and Schaffer established in the Republic of Mauritius," the US Department of Justice said today.

To cap it all, the dastardly duo funneled their ill-gotten gains through the Republic of Mauritius and the Isle of Man to "further insulate themselves from detection by U.S. law enforcement".

In August, 2005 Kilbride and Schaffer were the first people charged under the CAN-SPAM Act. They face up to five years in jail for each spam and obscenity offense and a fine of up to $500,000 and up to 20 years for money laundering. They will be sentenced in September. Boy are they in trouble.

Three associates of Kilbride and Schaffer, who include housewife Jennifer Clason, 34, of Raymond, New Hampshire, have already pleaded guilty to breaching CAN-SPAM. ®
:1orglaugh

Dirty Dane 06-26-2007 08:21 AM

0wned!!!

jact 06-26-2007 08:25 AM

Lock em up, throw away the keys.

Tanker 06-26-2007 08:29 AM

anyone know them?

headless ghost 06-26-2007 08:34 AM

they simply logged onto servers in Amsterdam, to make it seem like their email came from outside the US

offshore hosting really helped!
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

CheneyRumsfeld 06-26-2007 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanker (Post 12661352)
anyone know them?

so who hasn't posted recently?

LiveDose 06-26-2007 08:56 AM

That is awesome.

stev0 06-26-2007 09:06 AM

Great news, if only they'd lock up the rest of those bottom feeders that keep filling up my inbox.

PurrrsianPussyKat 06-26-2007 10:30 AM

So JenC pleaded guilty. Wonder what her punishment was.

dig420 06-26-2007 11:16 AM

I knew one of those guys well, and he was a hell of a nice guy. Yes he spammed, but he was pretty smalltime compared to several companies that post on this board constantly, buy the biggest sigs available and get their asses kissed here daily when they probably really should be in prison.

Hopefully the sentence will be light, as much worse offenders have been let off with a fine and an 'I'm sorry'.

Forest 06-26-2007 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 12662181)
I knew one of those guys well, and he was a hell of a nice guy. Yes he spammed, but he was pretty smalltime compared to several companies that post on this board constantly, buy the biggest sigs available and get their asses kissed here daily when they probably really should be in prison.

Hopefully the sentence will be light, as much worse offenders have been let off with a fine and an 'I'm sorry'.

diamond jim right?

who 06-26-2007 11:18 AM

Battusssss

EroticTalk 06-26-2007 11:33 AM

imagine if u had a 4 year old girl getting hardcore fucking porn on her inbox. WOULD YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE A LIGHT SENTENCE?

i DONT think so. THINK a lil bit here. i get about 20 fucking spam emails with hardcore content, lock em up god damnit.

EroticTalk 06-26-2007 11:34 AM

WTF? i pressed submit once and it showed it like 5 times, there was a timeout when i posted that, i hope i dont get bugged for a glitch on your forums :S

Anthony 06-26-2007 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EroticTalk (Post 12662264)
imagine if u had a 4 year old girl getting hardcore fucking porn on her inbox. WOULD YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE A LIGHT SENTENCE?

i DONT think so. THINK a lil bit here. i get about 20 fucking spam emails with hardcore content, lock em up god damnit.

A 4 year old. Get a fucking grip on reality.

CE_Chris 06-26-2007 11:47 AM

doesn't look good for them!!!

TheAmericanCannibal 06-26-2007 11:50 AM

There are many on this board who have been in this biz for over 8-10 yrs and if you are one of them, you know these two guys.

jimmy-3-way 06-26-2007 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EroticTalk (Post 12662265)
imagine if u had a 4 year old girl getting hardcore fucking porn on her inbox. WOULD YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE A LIGHT SENTENCE?

i DONT think so. THINK a lil bit here. i get about 20 fucking spam emails per day with hardcore content, lock em up god damnit.

What 4 year old has email?

That's pretty fucking retarded.

And if your 4 year old is smart enough to have email she's probably smart enough to know that she should avoid emails with DOUBLE ANAL in the subject line.

Anthony 06-26-2007 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 12662327)
There are many on this board who have been in this biz for over 8-10 yrs and if you are one of them, you know these two guys.

:(:(:(:(:(

Jason 06-26-2007 11:59 AM

you guys that are against it and want to throw them away.. how about we report what you do to the local church's and hopefully they will create havoc for you.

fucking assholes. get into another business.

jimmy-3-way 06-26-2007 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason (Post 12662366)
you guys that are against it and want to throw them away.. how about we report what you do to the local church's and hopefully they will create havoc for you.

fucking assholes. get into another business.

Damn right, bro.

woj 06-26-2007 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 12661333)
0wned!!!

indeed :thumbsup

DaddyHalbucks 06-26-2007 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headless ghost (Post 12661365)
they simply logged onto servers in Amsterdam, to make it seem like their email came from outside the US

offshore hosting really helped!
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yup, they got what they deserved.

sweetcuties 06-26-2007 12:07 PM

Great post... spammers are pieces of shit :2 cents:

Mutt 06-26-2007 12:11 PM

no doubt they broke the law but it looks to me like they are going to get as much time as some get for murder. jail isn't the place for them - they should just seize all their assets and maybe a year in jail.

Ace_luffy 06-26-2007 12:13 PM

whow's that guy....

dig420 06-26-2007 12:15 PM

There are mailers and there are spammers. These guys narrowed their lists very very quickly, focused their content by niche and achieved amazing conversion ratios by getting the right emails to the right people. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but if you're going to be a mailer, that's how you do it. Neither one of these guys ever screwed over, sued or robbed a webmaster. A lot of people that are bashing these guys suck up and post in contest threads for companies that fuck over surfers AND webmasters and spammed absolutely without regard for targeting in the most irresponsible and offensive manner possible. If any spammers deserve a warning it's these guys, but it's probably these guys that will get hammered while the real cocksuckers paid a fine and post here every day.

dig420 06-26-2007 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 12662389)
Yup, they got what they deserved.

One of these guys posted on the board you love so much (because they treat you with respect which you don't get anywhere else) and was your loyal ally in many political threads. Still think he got what he deserved?

woj 06-26-2007 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 12662422)
no doubt they broke the law but it looks to me like they are going to get as much time as some get for murder. jail isn't the place for them - they should just seize all their assets and maybe a year in jail.

yea, then a year later they get out of jail, and find a legitimate job, eh?
What will happen is they would just move out of the country and be back in business in no time...

XTuber 06-26-2007 12:19 PM

Spammers are dumb asses - I get spam that is nothing more than an incoherent collection of words, not always the same language.

D 06-26-2007 12:25 PM

Good news, imho.

:thumbsup

tranza 06-26-2007 12:27 PM

That's great news!!

:)

Achmed 06-26-2007 12:44 PM

do you like falafel brother?

HairToStay 06-26-2007 12:45 PM

One of those people named in the story still runs an adult program ....

dig420 06-26-2007 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achmed (Post 12662618)
do you like falafel brother?

got scared of your original post and had admin access to change it? Interesting...

TeenSluts 06-26-2007 01:19 PM

U Hhh Ohhhhhh

RawAlex 09-26-2007 08:44 AM

Update on this:

On Sept 7th, a judge denied the defendants try to get the conviction thrown out or for a new trial to be had.

On Sept 24th, James Schaffer (aka Diamond Jim) was to be sentenced. I have not found any information on what the sentence was, but he was facing 30 plus years.

What surprises me is that nobody twigged onto the fact that the images found to be obscene may have involved fisting. This may also be one of the first cases in a long time where an online porn operation was charged AND found guilty of obscenity.

Anyone have additional information?

Cassie 09-26-2007 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13146163)
Update on this:

On Sept 7th, a judge denied the defendants try to get the conviction thrown out or for a new trial to be had.

On Sept 24th, James Schaffer (aka Diamond Jim) was to be sentenced. I have not found any information on what the sentence was, but he was facing 30 plus years.

What surprises me is that nobody twigged onto the fact that the images found to be obscene may have involved fisting. This may also be one of the first cases in a long time where an online porn operation was charged AND found guilty of obscenity.

Anyone have additional information?

30 years! he should have just gone out and killed a family with his car. he would have received a lesser sentence and been out sooner.

holy cow!

RawAlex 09-26-2007 09:46 AM

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06...m_convictions/

Guilty of violations of Can-SPAM, transportation of obscene materials, and money laundering.

The money Laundering by itself is up to 20 years. The Can Spams are 5 years each. THe obscenity I am not sure of. 8 counts total, the real "up to" could be 50 years or more done consecutively, which I am sure isn't what happened.

I am surprised there isn't a whole big stink about this. After all, the "transportation of obscene material" is a really big deal,essentially showing that moving this material over the net is apparently a crime.

I would think that some of the others on trial for obscenity charges are likely NOT happy to have seen this conviction.

RawAlex 09-26-2007 10:16 AM

Wow... this thread is like the rotting fish nobody wants to mention.

Reality comes to town, and everyone goes to the beach instead.

xNetworx 09-26-2007 10:18 AM

brutal!!!!!!!

Drake 09-26-2007 10:31 AM

How did they get busted? Of the tons of spammers how did they become targets when it wouldn't even have been apparent that they were in the US?

SilvercashJeanette 09-26-2007 10:41 AM

Good shit... Glad they were caught!

Shok 09-26-2007 10:42 AM

Most of us know who this is.

I feel for him, he is a good friend and a great guy.

Violetta 09-26-2007 10:52 AM

Lovely to hear!

LadyMischief 09-26-2007 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat (Post 12661962)
So JenC pleaded guilty. Wonder what her punishment was.

Probably plea-bargained. Looks like she was between a rock and a hard place either way.

WiredGuy 09-26-2007 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shok (Post 13146872)
Most of us know who this is.

I feel for him, he is a good friend and a great guy.

Who is it?
WG

Shok 09-26-2007 11:57 AM

icq me WG

Anthony 09-26-2007 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13147275)
Who is it?
WG

Diamond Jim.

In my prayers Bro. :(

StuartD 09-26-2007 12:05 PM

I hope JenC came out of all of it alright.


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