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JadaY 06-25-2007 12:00 PM

Idiot Germans ban Tom Cruise film production due to Scientology
 
Moron Krauts call Scientology a cult, and that is their basis for banning the filming. Nevermind the fact that every other insipid "religion" is nothing more than a cult as well.

http://www.reuters.com/article/enter...rpc=22&sp=true

MaDalton 06-25-2007 12:01 PM

fuck scientology

You Forgot Poland 06-25-2007 12:02 PM

Scientology is for idiots - the Germans don't tolerate idiots.

They didn't put up with jew bullshit, and now they are not putting up with scientologist bullshit. It's too bad they dont' round up all the scientologists and gas them

tranza 06-25-2007 12:03 PM

Wasn't Tom Cruise fired because of that in the US before???

Sly 06-25-2007 12:04 PM

Scientology is not comparable to other religions.

tranza 06-25-2007 12:05 PM

Yep, he was fired from Paramount Pictures back in August last year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/23/bu...rssnyt&emc=rss

http://www.people.com/people/article...304046,00.html

SykkBoy 06-25-2007 12:06 PM

Fucking stupid
While I think Tom Cruise is a ignorant buffoon and a few grapes short of a bunch...he makes some damn entertaining movies...and isn't that what should matter? It's not like he's killed anyone (yet) inhaled a couple million dollars worth of drugs (yet)

MaDalton 06-25-2007 12:07 PM

scientology is NOT a religion, scientology is mind abuse. and dangerous.

JadaY 06-25-2007 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12656371)
Scientology is not comparable to other religions.

oh yeah? so what is your reasoning for saying that?

is it worse than worshiping a piece of meteorite (Islam)

is it worse than worshiping wooden t-shaped things? 9Christianity)

Sly 06-25-2007 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 12656379)

It wasn't publicly because of Scientology though.

The guy is nuts, but I love his movies.

D 06-25-2007 12:09 PM

Well, I don't recall anyone ever saying Germany was a free country.

Maybe we should invade them next?

JadaY 06-25-2007 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 12656391)
scientology is NOT a religion, scientology is mind abuse. and dangerous.

yeah, and immaculate conception isn't.

MaDalton 06-25-2007 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadaY (Post 12656405)
oh yeah? so what is your reasoning for saying that?

is it worse than worshiping a piece of meteorite (Islam)

is it worse than worshiping wooden t-shaped things? 9Christianity)

lol - let me guess: you spent some thousands to become a tetan or whatever that bullshit is called and now have to defend it?

Sly 06-25-2007 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadaY (Post 12656405)
oh yeah? so what is your reasoning for saying that?

is it worse than worshiping a piece of meteorite (Islam)

is it worse than worshiping wooden t-shaped things? 9Christianity)

I'm not up on Islam, but Christians do not worship a "wooden t-shaped thing". They don't worship a Cross either. The Cross is a symbol.

MaDalton 06-25-2007 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D (Post 12656415)
Well, I don't recall anyone ever saying Germany was a free country.

Maybe we should invade them next?

no need, you still got enough soldiers and bases on german territory. and we love mtv, coca cola, pepsi and mcdonalds already anyways :winkwink:

TheLegacy 06-25-2007 12:12 PM

A "religion" is a faith one is born into; a "cult" is a faith an adult joins voluntarily.

Sly 06-25-2007 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 12656438)
no need, you still got enough soldiers and bases on german territory. and we love mtv, coca cola, pepsi and mcdonalds already anyways :winkwink:

You forgot David Hasselhoff!

Sly 06-25-2007 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 12656446)
A "religion" is a faith one is born into; a "cult" is a faith an adult joins voluntarily.

A lot of people join religions later on in life. If Bob is born into a Jewish family its a religion, but if he converts at the age of 25 he's a cult member?

MaDalton 06-25-2007 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12656448)
You forgot David Hasselhoff!

and david hasselhoof, yeah :disgust

ok, invade us and send him first :ak47: :1orglaugh

cranki 06-25-2007 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadaY (Post 12656342)
Moron Krauts call Scientology a cult, and that is their basis for banning the filming. Nevermind the fact that every other insipid "religion" is nothing more than a cult as well.

http://www.reuters.com/article/enter...rpc=22&sp=true

officially. Do you know anything about Count Stauffenberg or German history at all? Then you might be able to understand why Tom Cruise is NOT the right person to impersonate him or make a movie about that topic at all...

CosmicTang 06-25-2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 12656391)
scientology is NOT a religion, scientology is mind abuse. and dangerous.

I think Scientology is exactly what the German dude said it was, a scheme to make money masquerading as a religion. And if people insist on forking over their money, well it's their money.

IMO, Martyrs are dangerous.

baddog 06-25-2007 12:35 PM

good for germany

XXXzidane 06-25-2007 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 12656446)
A "religion" is a faith one is born into; a "cult" is a faith an adult joins voluntarily.

You can also be born into a cult. Such as cults that support certain acts with children. The mother gives birth to the child then its inducted into the cult as a member.

MaDalton 06-25-2007 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 12656590)
I think Scientology is exactly what the German dude said it was, a scheme to make money masquerading as a religion. And if people insist on forking over their money, well it's their money.

IMO, Martyrs are dangerous.

wait a sec - it's not that easy. you can't simply say "And if people insist on forking over their money, well it's their money."

it's also about protecting those that are (maybe not yet) able to judge for themselves.

example: scientology opened a new headquarter in germany (they are not forbidden there, but they are not considered a church what pisses them off cause they would save millions in taxes otherwise). in front of their headquarter is a bus stop where every day hundreds of pupils wait for their bus. now these assholes started to apporach the kids with their dumb questionaries and stuff and tried to lure them into their building. theoretically this practice is forbidden, but they simply don't care. as long as it brings new members :disgust

D 06-25-2007 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 12656461)
and david hasselhoof, yeah :disgust

ok, invade us and send him first :ak47: :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

nico-t 06-25-2007 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12656371)
Scientology is not comparable to other religions.

I agree; scientology could actually be true if you compare it to the stories of all the other religions. But hey now im just being logical... sorry won't do that again!

D 06-25-2007 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 12656391)
scientology is NOT a religion, scientology is mind abuse. and dangerous.

Sure it's a religion. Look up the definition of the word.

If you think that what you must consider "religions" weren't a form of mind control or way of making money, then you haven't bothered learning very much Western History.

Christianity was widely considered a "cult" as recent as 1700 years ago.

You give credit to the other "cults" simply because they've been around longer, have more of a following, and their desire to control the minds of their followers or absorb their pocketbooks maybe isn't as obvious as it once was.



Personally, I think Sting put it best: "Men go crazy in congregations, but they only get better one by one"

Brad 06-25-2007 01:03 PM

who cares, he'll go somewhere else and make the shitty movie anyways.

Brad 06-25-2007 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 12656644)
wait a sec - it's not that easy. you can't simply say "And if people insist on forking over their money, well it's their money."

it's also about protecting those that are (maybe not yet) able to judge for themselves.

example: scientology opened a new headquarter in germany (they are not forbidden there, but they are not considered a church what pisses them off cause they would save millions in taxes otherwise). in front of their headquarter is a bus stop where every day hundreds of pupils wait for their bus. now these assholes started to apporach the kids with their dumb questionaries and stuff and tried to lure them into their building. theoretically this practice is forbidden, but they simply don't care. as long as it brings new members :disgust

That's what all religious movements do. They hang out at schools and create youth groups to try to get us as kids before we can think for ourselves. Anyone who doesn't think this is totally fucked up should watch the brainwashing in Jesus Camp. Truly the most disturbing footage I've seen in recent memory.

macmark 06-25-2007 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 12656446)
A "religion" is a faith one is born into;

No one is born into a religion, not 1 single human being. A 'jewish child' is just a child with jewish parents. They choose to branwash their offspring with their own beliefs..

IMO it's nothing short of child abuse.

JadaY 06-25-2007 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 12656418)
lol - let me guess: you spent some thousands to become a tetan or whatever that bullshit is called and now have to defend it?

Let me guess, you believe that a woman was spawned from a ribcage in a magical garden?

gangbangjoe 06-25-2007 01:27 PM

i would ban this lunatic from the whole world..

and fuck you jaday

MaDalton 06-25-2007 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadaY (Post 12656865)
Let me guess, you believe that a woman was spawned from a ribcage in a magical garden?

i believe you are an idiot - no, wait, i even know you are an idiot

i believe in Darwin and therefore i believe your chances are weak to become very old

TheLegacy 06-25-2007 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macmark (Post 12656828)
No one is born into a religion, not 1 single human being. A 'jewish child' is just a child with jewish parents. They choose to branwash their offspring with their own beliefs..

IMO it's nothing short of child abuse.

your parents never took you to church, nor force you into child baptism? you are a product of your parents religion, you can choose to walk away from it - but most parents take their baby into a church or tell them that they are part of some organized religion, its not by choice as said - its handed down.

call it whatever you want.. brainwashing etc. but the truth is - your born into it - meaning it already exists in your family. hate it or not - if there was a bible in there, your were born into the process of what they beleive or not believe.. or do you think that parents have no influence on children in how they think, act or react? the parents are influenced by the "good book" and "golden rule"... therefore you are.

TheDoc 06-25-2007 03:26 PM

Scientology doesn't teach faith.. Religions do. Both steal your money, both were built for money and forcing people into submission. Both are fucked and Scientology is a Cult, like most Religions.

However, religion, does do one thing correctly, they teach faith. And it doesn't mater what religion you believe in or not, as long as you have pure love, you will get all the faith you need. Nothing else is important.

If you don't understand that, it's because you have been brainwashed into ignoring the facts around you.

_Richard_ 06-25-2007 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 12656461)
and david hasselhoof, yeah :disgust

ok, invade us and send him first :ak47: :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

JaneB 06-25-2007 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 12656363)
Wasn't Tom Cruise fired because of that in the US before???

Yes he was. He said some pretty stupid things in interviews like there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance and that he knows because he read books on the subject. Then he ripped on Brooke Shields for taking anti depressants. After all of that people were pissed at how he was acting. I guess in his religion they do know believe in mental illnesses and medication for them. I also think his dancing on the furniture about how much he liked Katie Holmes didn't help him either.

Nurgle 06-25-2007 04:05 PM

idiots? i think not.. someone finally has some sense

CE_Chris 06-25-2007 04:15 PM

What year is it??? Aren't you allowed to beleave whatever you want as long as know one gets hurt????

D 06-25-2007 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12657712)
Scientology doesn't teach faith.

Sure it Does.

It's you that's applying your own (to use your word) "brainwashed" definition of what 'faith' is to the situation. For different people, faith is different things.

aico 06-25-2007 04:35 PM

Now only if we can ban them here in the US too.


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