calling out the FSC (FREE SPEECH COALITION)
 

you know after thinking about it, why dont they disclose how all this money they get is being spent?

does it not trouble anyone that they dont?

for all anyone knows they only use a 1/4 of it on fighting and 3/4 on vacationing.

with all the corrupt shit going on these days, id expect an organization like this to freely open their books and disclose where YOUR money is being spent.

Good points... People should know.

After all some industry lawyers have been known to ask you to lunch, then ask you how business is, and bill you afterwards, after having you pay for lunch.

You are such a fucking prick its scary.

Yes it does, and I do not receive the mystery newsletters others talk about even though I have been a member.

i have been a member for a couple years. not a single newsletter have i ever read or even recieved.

I bet you there is some shady shit going on

why am i prick? becuase i question where my money went when i donated, and where aff's andplatinum buks money is going?

that makes me a prick?

go fuck yourself.

No, I may even agree with what you say - not often though - but all you are doing is thinking up ways to stir the shit - that's all you do.

I find you offensive....

i find you a loser.

do you feel better that you spoke your mind?

haha idiot

At least its my mind - and not just some bullshit for sig views.

That's so 99

I'm an old fashioned sort of guy :)

I asked this YEARS ago an never got a response except that we spend it to protect you

uh huh

If you ever do find out please let me know

It does appear that they are doing more recently than they used to

But opening their books...ya right

Ok just because pimpdog often is and can be a dick, do not let that get in the way of a very valid question.

And I am fairly certain if you want to avoid pimpdogs sig views if that is what you think he is after, do not click his threads.

i get emails and newsletters.

just sent in my renewal money too :thumbsup

yea right. why do so many claim to not get their newsletters then?

do you have any idea where theyy are spending all the money they get?

for all you know, they are snorting coke and buying hookers with your money.

amazing hhow ppl can dismiss the possibility, espeacilly when they go through great lenghts to keep the books closed.

its a non profit organization!!! what is there to hide, unless its shady!!!!!!!!

sig views are the least of my concerns LOL i already been paid for mine and sigs are worthles anyways. they rarely get clciked on, plus i have a competitor in my sig, why wwould i want to promte them!

quick bucks sucks, but i got paid to fly it, easy money. they paid my electric bill and my cigarette money

I know its not about sig views I was making that point. :2 cents:

i swear i get them.
i just got an email today as a matter of fact.

i havent read it yet, but heres:

no i do not, and yes- they might be.

i didnt dismiss the possibility.
i paid my 25 bucks.
i get the email, and the newsletter.
i also get xbiz world, and occaisionally fubar times (but i had to sign up twice) :winkwink:

cigarette money.. lol..

so you are ok with throwing away 25 bucks a month?

join one of my paysites then, i could use the 25 a month.. and dont worrry, i will rebill you, you dont even have to renew! ill take care of it!

25 bucks a year :thumbsup

They should disclose what they are doing with the money and how much they are taking in. I have not seen a hell of a lot of bang for the buck. If they were to show what they were actually doing to help us, I would happily send them more money if I thought they were really going to bat for us.

They buy hookers and drinks! What did you expect?

What I find wierd is that if anyone really tried to have the press catch on to that porn has lobbiest, they would jump on it and spread light on many issues.

Sex sells and the news gladly uses sex stories to get views.

you should know by now than any mind that thinks outside the box around here is a prick.

I have to say I'm disappointed with the progress the FSC has done in the last couple of years. The laws got worse and they haven't done much about it.

I would also like them to post more useful newsletter and guidelines about how we should all run our sites. And the legal updates could be better. They should come from them and not just links to AVN.

I'm glad they exist and I donate every month no problem but I'm not that exctied with the work they have done so far. Sorry.

If they are a true 501(C)(3) charitable corporation, they would have to file some public audited information as well on their income and expeditures. Anyone here know how their corporation is set up and in what state?

all i know iss its california

i was a member for a year, never heard anything from them until my membership was expiring and they wanted more $.

California has very strict laws in regards to filing for a 501(C)(3) charitable corp, as they also have the most aggresive secondary filings required not by the Federal government, but to the state as well. The application process alone is just plain silly when considering the amount of work to get approved. If anyone cared enough, some answers could be found, moreso specifically if you are a donating party.

hats the tricky part, noone will follow through and find out about them. they just donate to brag about it really

It would be interesting to read updates on their progress. One group I do fully support is ASACP. Epic Cash is also behind them as you can see on our sites :thumbsup


One thing is I dont think you should need to become a member of these organizations to sport their logo on your site. I'm not sure if FSC is like this but ASACP is like this because they have to approve your site.

I agree with you. "If someone wants to pay me, I'll do the legwork." is most likely the feeling most would have. I'm not even saying they ARE doing anything wrong. I am just saying it would be possible to find out.

interesting to see how and what develops from this thread

It will fall off after page 3 andd be forgotten. any bets?

it is the weekend, so i would agree - bump it monday and i would bet itll light up.

its funny how people react to this thread - its a legit question.

people would be blown away if they knew the actual percentage that goes directly to a cause they donate to and what % goes to the admin ect of a "non-profit" organization.

1. i DO get the newsletters!

2. i wouldnt mind knowing where they did spend the $$$ that is donated

and trey spends half his cash on drugs well what the fuck do you expect from a junkie

Trey is not a not for profit organization I am donating to in order to assist and speak on behalf of me as an industry. So I could care less what he is or is not.

good for him ... he likes to fuck people that make his ass.... and god bless you for putting money into an organization that works hard to keep us all from getting our shit handled by the government

Leave god out of this, and this is about the money I and others are putting into an organization and we want to ensure they are working as hard as they should for the money they receive.

FSC is an organization that is awesome... they work very hard for the industry we all work and make our money from ... trey just seems to think he is above us and needs to realize he is a nobody from seattle that was lucky roger let him work...

got a list with what they've accomplished in the past few years ?
not much I gather.

And the rest of us who are just as curious?

Or wait we listen to a fake nick registered today with 10 posts attacking trey that they are just "awesome" and that is good enough for us.

Nice fake nick. You must be with the FSC. A true not for profit corporation would open their books and disclose where they are spending your money. It's not like we do not know that people need to be paid for their work. That's part of running business... people need to eat.

What he is accusing them of is spending their bank interest on fighting suits, not the majority of the cash. I personally will enjoy seeing how they come back at this question (that is, if they even bother responding).

got a list of what Ian has grown beyond all of us. if it were not for roger V and a programer faggot trey would be no one... FSC has been around for alot longer than any internet program i know of and they have been protecting our rights to sell what we do since the 90's. see a post count nothing more than sorry....

not from FSC at all ...

this all is fucking weird.

That looked less like a newsletter and more like a fundraiser.

I'm not calling out the FSC but I will say that their lack of communication is why I haven't sent any money in awhile. I look at groups like the ACLU and others that fight for specific causes, and they are religious about giving updates on current court cases, progress they have made, and what's next on the agenda. I click on their court cases link and the last one listed (of the 3) was 2005.

To be honest, the only time I see them on the boards or communicating is when they want money. I haven't heard an update on 2257 since last year. Maybe I'm just missing all the stuff that is going on with them, but I just hear a lot about how they need money, how people are donating, and then that's it.

If they want to be the ACLU of the adult industry and have a huge base of supporters, they need to step up and start communicating directly. Their "newsletters" need to contain NEWS, not where we can donate more money. Whether that's hiring a board liason to pass information back and forth, or simply getting someone on their staff to keep us updated, something needs to be done to keep full support and trust of the industry.

hey spend your money wisely ... that is always good... trey has no shit to talk cause he is gay ... i want him to come and say he is going to do something .. you faggot trey.. please...