Fuck TGPs ... Yumm.net has the new concept for FREE porn
 

(Feel free to blast me for this idea ... I promise, I will not care :1orglaugh

What is Yumm.net?

Yumm.net is rather similar to a TGP: It links from thumbnails to galleries which contain some free content as well as (banner) links to the respective pay sites.


Why is Yumm.net different?

On Yumm.net there is just one thumbnail picture per gallery. It links the surfer from Yumm.net's index page to the gallery. The gallery itself does not contain thumbnails, just full-size pictures. A very different experience for the surfer! :angel

However, every gallery page contains at least three links to the respective pay site - banners as well as text links.

And as we would like to makes some :2 cents: too, of course these links do contain our ref code to the respective webmaster program.


Some strings attached ...

Yes, our galleries are being hot-linked to the pay site's FHGs!

We know that hotlinking has a bad reputation as some webmasters are ripping off paysite owners this way. However, as you can see on our website we are actually promoting the respective pay sites.


Isn't Yumm.net like Fusker?

In fact Yumm.net's technology is very similar to Fusker. And we are using the very popular term "Fusker" to promote our website in search engines. But there is a BIG difference between "original" Fusker sites and Yumm.net: Fusker is ripping off paysites, we are promoting them!



If you want to have your paysite promoted on Yumm.net too, please don't hesitate to contact me:

Email: office[ät]jennycash.com
ICQ: 15471068
MSN: os[ät]osimon.com
Yahoo: osimon9

Kind regards,

- Otto -

ripping off? cool

hahahahaha

For some reason I like the look of it being very plain... but I cant get over the hotlinking of the images. Just host them yourself. Some of the pages load quite slow and the keywords don't always match up with the pics. You also have some broken links to some pictures.

It's Fusker v2 - the welknown rippers

So are jennycash.com behind this now? - ripping off other sites for BW bills?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Can you say thread killer?

FUCK!

I think it's okay for the paysites to have their FHGs used like this... if not, they would've implemented hotlink-protection, wouldn't they?:2 cents:

So just because someone dont hotlink protect their file, it means you can use them like you want?

If you dont lock the trunk of your SUV is it OK if i climp in and use the car? or would it be stealing?

Yes very new concept totally new Damn that I didn't think of this...

That's good to see some innovation ! :thumbsup

I have similar site but I'm hosting images on own instead of ripping off sponsors

adult forums or even mainstream forums with adult sections do this kind of posting all the time (post galleries of big pictures), no real innovation behind this idea. :P

serious biz

good idea, bad execution. I don't like the fact that the banner at the top is always on top. It makes the viewing area really small even at high resolution.

fusker2.0

Everything is okay except the hotlink. Programs leave their galleries open like that so (a) google image can rape them, and (b) so TGPs can thumb the galleries more easily. It isn't an invitation to you to hotlink thier galleries and waste their bandwidth.

There isn't any great reason to offer up all the pictures of a gallery stripped out of the gallery. The gallery layout is the sales pitch. What you are doing is cutting off the most important parts of the gallery for the programs (the sales area) and running up the cost side. Plus, most people who visit a gallery don't look at every image, so the fusker style method of displaying every picture every time is wasteful and expensive.

It is a great model for giving tons of a free porn to people who aren't going to pay, and assuring they won't pay by removing 99% of the sales pitch.

I would say that programs would be certain in their rights to block your site and even cancel accounts for this stuff.

i like the concept-- looks good !

MY Fusker 2.0 :1orglaugh

i got a great domain name for one !

I have contacted all programs I have on my site. Most have agreed, some have disagreed (those have been removed, of course) and some haven't decided yet.

We hare playing fair and don't need to hide anything. That's one of the reasons for this posting.

I'm actually quite interested to see how it works... so yeah... hit me.

So you'll just list/spider FHGs, right??

I won't be seeing you as a referral to my 1000's galleries out there, right?

I already own fusker2.com too :winkwink:

Yes, we do spider FHGs. We also do hand-create thumbnails and categories.

What program are you with?

:thumbsup Bang on the money there.

You've pulled out the sales pitch and left the surfer with all the product and no effort to see it. And of course no risk to the site owner because the sponsor is footing the bandwidth bill.

well damn to you too

jennycards, I looked at this stuff closely when fusker was around, did the math, and the end number for the programs was "BIG LOSS OF MONEY". Smart programs know exactly how much bandwidth costs are involved with every gallery visit. They know what sells and what doesn't. They work their galleries to get the most clicks forward possible, no matter what.

They know on average, example, that each visitor clicks 4.2 thumbs. Not 16. Not 20... 4.2 (or whatever the number is). Your site assures them 100% clicks of all thumbs, essentially because you download every image every time. Plus you create great demands on the server by asking for say 16 x 100k images to be moved every time you load a page - plus 16 seperate connections, 16 seperate fetches, etc. I suspect the programs that have agreed are either (a) not truly aware of what you are doing or (b) have not truly thought through the implications for their network and for other users of their free hosted gallery systems.

Let's say your site gets 10,000 hits an hour, and the average surfer visits 10 pages. 10,000 x 10 x 16 x 100k = 160g an hour of someone else's bandwidth. A listing in position 1 would likely get about 10% of that or a constant draw of 16gig an hour.

Now, I know bandwith is cheap, but that is still a pretty huge bill to be stuffing off to other people.

There is also no indication that your software couldn't be used to index unsuspecting people. The nature of hotlinked images is that they can totally wipe out a server in a single shot, given enough traffic. Imagine someone paid good dollars to get a decent hun listing, then someone adds it onto fusker2 at the same time... server drops like a rock, and the guy doesn't make any money (because after all, it will be YOUR affiliate codes on your pages, not his). He pays a huge bandwidth bill, likely loses many surfers from the hun who won't wait for the gallery to load (too slow) and you have made off like a bandit with free money.

nice.

If the model didn't involve hotlinking, I would say good luck with it. A model that involves hotlinking is just wrong - and any program permitting this is creating an unfair environment for their other affiliates.

Who do you think will join a pay site these days?
The typical free-loader? No!
The surfer who is angry because of all the blind links and faked galleries? Either!
But maybe the happy surfer who finally finds the content he likes and wants to see more of it in better quality.

We are just spidering FHGs, nothing that could threaten a Hun listing :)

non-answer. If you spider and put them on your site, you will be hotlinking all their images as well. That can hurt.

Ok, so why not just run a clean TGP/MGP format site? You feel that because some sites out there are loading crap on a surfer's PC that it justifies stripping the sales text and layout of a gallery and just handing the images to the surfer?

You feel that giving them more content is going to increase sales? And do you feel that a forced load of all the images in a gallery benefits the sponsor? Thats a total waste of bandwidth which you can't seem to appreciate because you're not the one footing the bill.

Thank you for your feedback. I will think about that fact that all fullsize images are being loaded at once. I am always open for improvements!

Two options are coming to my mind: reducing the number of images per gallery (maybe from 15 to 5). Or showing just one image at once, with a |NEXT| button.

Or is that destroying the whole concept? Still thinking about it ...

What do you think?

set me UP !

Again, taking the images out of the gallery context removes the sales pitch. The sales pitch is key.

Your business model on this one is "if I show enough free porn to people, someone will buy somehting". If you make it convenient enough to view the images, and remove virtually the entire sales pitch, the chances you sell drop through the floor.

You are making it easier for the surfer to get free stuff, and tougher on yourself (and eveyrone else) to sell the surfer something.

If you want to do something like this, host the content yourself, make your own stuff up, and see how valid a business model it is for you to run. If they only way you make any money is by the hotlinking method, then you know your business model fails.

I'm willing to give it a try.. we're our own hosting company so bandwidth isn't really a concern.

Lame. That's all I can say.

This is not a new concept, this is a page with a bunch of porn on it. WHEW nothing new.

well this thread didn't go well....

Bradm you are correct, it is a page full of porn. Fusker ran this exact format for a while... without any banners. Adding a couple of banners on the page of images doesn't constitute a real attempt to sell anything.

That is the key (and trust me, I forget it too some times) the idea of the business is to sell porn memberships. it isn't to be the best free porn service or to make finding free porn easier. The idea is to make the good stuff seem good enough to pay for! Any step that makes free porn easier, removes the sales angle, and pretty much gives the surfer a 100% free ride is likely going to lower sales.

The only things this site is missing to be totally perfect, imho, is some AFF iframes and some adbrite stuff down the right hand side. Then it will be perfect.

A TGP by any other name is STILL A TGP

and hotlinking by any other name is still hotlinking. Programs wouldn't tolerate it from their affiliates on a normal basis.

You are welcum to do so :321GFY

that animated .gif gave me the best laugh i have had in about a year! :thumbsup

Looks good. Not new idea though.

Clip of the Year

:thumbsup

Not sure why people are raggin on them about "hotlinking"... they're promoting the sites... If they listed the sponsor FHGs the BW usage would be similar ... i.e. every image is loaded so you'd think the BW would be more as surfers wouldn't click on every image on a FHG. However, if they listed the FHG, there'd be the additional load of all the FHG images and thumbs.

It's pretty much a wash IMO.

the king!!! :1orglaugh

I think surfers click on 2-3 thumbs mostly.