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emjay 06-20-2007 04:36 AM

USA no longer world's biggest pollutor - China is...
 
China is now building about two power stations every week, the top climate change official at the UK Foreign Office, John Ashton, has said.

He said there was no point blaming China for rising global CO2 emissions.

Rich nations had to set an example of low-carbon development for China to follow, Mr Ashton told the BBC.

His statement came as a new report suggested that China may have already become the world's biggest polluter - much earlier than expected.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/6769743.stm

Jace 06-20-2007 04:40 AM

two power stations a week?

wtf?

emjay 06-20-2007 04:53 AM

[QUOTE=Jace;12629029]two power stations a week?



Yes, I was a bit shocked/surprised with that stat.

And they seem to dig the internal combustion engine too!

http://www.audiworld.com/news/06/aud...ng/header2.jpg

everestcash 06-20-2007 05:09 AM

china rulez!

King Adam 06-20-2007 05:13 AM

Aren't they suppoed to have a cap on how many kids they can pop out. It seems they are growing way too fast.

emjay 06-20-2007 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Adam (Post 12629128)
Aren't they suppoed to have a cap on how many kids they can pop out. It seems they are growing way too fast.

Correct they have a "one child per family" policy. Not sure what happens if you concieve twins...

sirkakashi08 06-20-2007 05:30 AM

yeah! and they have to lead a campaign to lessen pollution.

Dirty Dane 06-20-2007 05:30 AM

Is that per capita?

Barefootsies 06-20-2007 06:12 AM

Correct. No use blaming them.

The "west" or industrialized countries are the one's who've been polluting for years, and caused a lot of the grief (supposedly according to scientists) so why blame the newest addition to the polluting mass.

Those who've been leading the way polluting, need to lead the way in green.

:2 cents:

BlueDesignStudios 06-20-2007 06:20 AM

they have more ppl, pollution comparisons should be done on a per capita basis

emjay 06-20-2007 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 12629181)
Is that per capita?

"Let us not forget that the average Chinese emits just 3.5 tonnes of CO2 per year, whereas Britons emit nearly 10 tonnes and Americans 20 tonnes."

stev0 06-20-2007 09:32 AM

They have over 20 times more people than the US... I would hope they pollute more.

stickyfingerz 06-20-2007 09:37 AM

Oh noes now we are all going to melt from da global warmings.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

eMonk 06-20-2007 09:42 AM

asians are taking over the world. breed with one now & become part of history. :1orglaugh

stickyfingerz 06-20-2007 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MUNK (Post 12630260)
asians are taking over the world. breed with one now & become part of history. :1orglaugh

Already did that hehe. :winkwink:

notabook 06-20-2007 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12630236)
Oh noes now we are all going to melt from da global warmings.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Won't someone please think of the polar bears! :( :( :(

shake 06-20-2007 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjay (Post 12629145)
Correct they have a "one child per family" policy. Not sure what happens if you concieve twins...

I have some friends that lived there for a year - some scary shit can happen if you have more than one kid, not sure about twins either though. :Oh crap

stickyfingerz 06-20-2007 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notabook (Post 12630301)
Won't someone please think of the polar bears! :( :( :(

They are drowning you know.. :(:( Poor guys can only swim 60 to 80 miles at a time. :Oh crap

notabook 06-20-2007 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12630403)
They are drowning you know.. :(:( Poor guys can only swim 60 to 80 miles at a time. :Oh crap

:Oh crap Poor little fellers. Global warming shouldn?t ah? done that. What's next... penguins? :(

ZoneMaster 06-20-2007 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjay (Post 12629016)
USA no longer world's biggest pollutor - China is...

Pro rata population is probably relevant on this type of stat..

On eg oil - China has 21% of world population but comsumes 8% of annual production of oil. By comparison, the US has only about 5% of the world's population but consumes 25% of annual oil production.

Cardinal_Sin 06-20-2007 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZoneMaster (Post 12630825)
Pro rata population is probably relevant on this type of stat..

On eg oil - China has 21% of world population but comsumes 8% of annual production of oil. By comparison, the US has only about 5% of the world's population but consumes 25% of annual oil production.

amd until they shove the price up to a realistic 5-6 bucks a gallon, manufacturors will still keep pumping out 10 mile per gallon gas guzzling motors.

ZoneMaster 06-20-2007 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardinal_Sin (Post 12630928)
amd until they shove the price up to a realistic 5-6 bucks a gallon, manufacturors will still keep pumping out 10 mile per gallon gas guzzling motors.

Sure.. the effects of a reduction in oil consumption would also ripple out to other areas as well.

Currently oil imports account for almost 50% of the trade deficit. Cars consume around 45% of those oil imports (while public transport uses 25% and the balance going to industry). Any reduction in oil consumption would obviously aid the economic outlook.

emjay 06-20-2007 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardinal_Sin (Post 12630928)
amd until they shove the price up to a realistic 5-6 bucks a gallon, manufacturors will still keep pumping out 10 mile per gallon gas guzzling motors.


GUILTY!

http://www.privatewallpapers.com/wp-...h3_84_1024.jpg

tony286 06-20-2007 12:23 PM

Well we moved most of our industry over there what do you expect.

emjay 06-20-2007 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12631152)
Well we moved most of our industry over there what do you expect.

http://www.jamestown.org/images/photos/pollution2.jpg :Oh crap

darling2 06-20-2007 04:13 PM

Too bad they are not building more nuclear power plants, which are CO2 free. They seem to prefer cheap coal which pollutes a lot more.

notabook 06-20-2007 04:14 PM

:( :( :( We're no longer #1 =( =( =( And China is killing more polar bears than we are :( :( :(

emjay 06-20-2007 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darling2 (Post 12632442)
Too bad they are not building more nuclear power plants, which are CO2 free. They seem to prefer cheap coal which pollutes a lot more.

I'm still trying to get used to that stat. Two power stations a week...

Anyone know how many power stations US has?

DaddyHalbucks 06-20-2007 04:20 PM

China is an ecological nightmare.

IllTestYourGirls 06-20-2007 04:22 PM

why do you think the global warming scare is here? To try to slow down China and steal your money by making global warming taxes. Then 30 years from now they will all say... Shit I guess we were wrong about that global warming thing. Much like they did with global freezing.

emjay 06-20-2007 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 12632498)
China is an ecological nightmare.

Written in 2002:

"As yet, there are only 16 million cars in China - not many for a country with 1.3 billion people - and only one-tenth of one per cent of the Chinese people will be buying a car this year.

But industry officials enthuse about a 20% rise in sales last year and a 30% sales rise during the first four months of this year.

And looking ahead, sales growth will be given further shots in the arm, partly by a slew of government initiatives, but also by the country's rapid economic growth and, eventually, by loans for private car buyers from both car manufacturers and finance houses.

"There seems to be no end to growth here," Automotive Resources Asia's Michael Dunne told BBC News Online.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2026707.stm

emjay 06-20-2007 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 12632511)
why do you think the global warming scare is here? To try to slow down China and steal your money by making global warming taxes. Then 30 years from now they will all say... Shit I guess we were wrong about that global warming thing. Much like they did with global freezing.

lol yeah what happened to the next ice age? Maybe the two will cancel each other out...

Loryn 06-20-2007 04:43 PM

Remember the Ice Age? If not for global warming, that's where we'd be right now!!! :disgust

Loryn 06-20-2007 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 12632511)
why do you think the global warming scare is here? To try to slow down China and steal your money by making global warming taxes. Then 30 years from now they will all say... Shit I guess we were wrong about that global warming thing. Much like they did with global freezing.

Yeah I think the freezing thing was the 60's fad! :1orglaugh

Good memory! :thumbsup

emjay 06-20-2007 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjay (Post 12632466)
I'm still trying to get used to that stat. Two power stations a week...

Anyone know how many power stations US has?

According to http://www.animatedsoftware.com/envi.../nukelist1.htm
US

there are more than 100 nuke power plants in USA

no coal ones?

Spiegelau 06-20-2007 05:09 PM

We Americans better get our asses in gear!

pawsregd 06-20-2007 07:07 PM

Wow, no shit


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