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StickyGreen 06-19-2007 04:47 PM

The Ancient City of Atlantis
 
Do you believe that it existed? Or do you think it is 100% myth? I haven't done enough research just yet to come to a conclusion, but what exactly is the best evidence of it's existence? Plato's writings only?

Pornwolf 06-19-2007 05:13 PM

With the way civilizations have risen and fallen throughout history I don't see why they couldn't have existed.

Phoenix 06-19-2007 05:16 PM

atlantis was the civilization before the flood

TeenSluts 06-19-2007 05:19 PM

yes it did.

After Shock Media 06-19-2007 05:22 PM

The rumor and conjecture compiled with Plato's very vague description would make it seem not plausible as described, though there is a very interesting find in the proper area yet it does not match "Plato's" description so it has been dismissed.

D 06-19-2007 05:23 PM

I think it existed.

The common theory is that it sat on Thera prior to the great eruption that's also thought to be the main source for most of Egypt's plagues during the time of Moses.

Pornwolf 06-19-2007 05:26 PM

This planet has been here for millions of years. Who knows what was here before the dinosaurs. Tons of things are possible.

StickyGreen 06-19-2007 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 12626842)
The rumor and conjecture compiled with Plato's very vague description would make it seem not plausible as described, though there is a very interesting find in the proper area yet it does not match "Plato's" description so it has been dismissed.

Yea I read somewhere that Plato basically made it up to help illustrate his political ideas or something like that...

Jim_Gunn 06-19-2007 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12626867)
This planet has been here for millions of years. Who knows what was here before the dinosaurs. Tons of things are possible.

Before the dinosaurs, lol?

JamesK2 06-19-2007 05:58 PM

Yeah I've been there in my previous life, when I was a unicorn.

jalami 06-19-2007 06:05 PM

It's definitely possible that there was a comparatively advanced civilization, or even several, that got wiped out in some great natural disaster. Of course Plato's account would be either exaggeration brought on through time, or pure fabrication based on legends (which tend to have a pint-sized grain of truth holding them up) of the time.

notabook 06-19-2007 06:05 PM

Sure.. it wasn't "high tech" like in sci-fi novels but I certainly believe that it did indeed exist and that it was probably fairly advanced for the time period.

BusterBunny 06-19-2007 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 12626850)
I think it existed.

The common theory is that it sat on Thera prior to the great eruption that's also thought to be the main source for most of Egypt's plagues during the time of Moses.

thought it was santorini? or are are they the same?

Quagmire 06-19-2007 06:09 PM

If a great big rock from space and come and totally wipe out everything on the planet, chances are an island could drop off in to the sea and not be seen again.

God on the other hand, is a myth.

BusterBunny 06-19-2007 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 12627067)
thought it was santorini? or are are they the same?

they are the same:winkwink:

http://www.greekisland.co.uk/maps/map_santorini.jpg

IllTestYourGirls 06-19-2007 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 12626850)
I think it existed.

The common theory is that it sat on Thera prior to the great eruption that's also thought to be the main source for most of Egypt's plagues during the time of Moses.

Awww almost! There were no plagues.

aico 06-19-2007 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12626867)
This planet has been here for millions of years. Who knows what was here before the dinosaurs. Tons of things are possible.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No child left behind is doing wonders.

shekinah 06-19-2007 08:24 PM

there are things happened that we couldn't explain.. I'm still between fact and farce:)

DTK 06-19-2007 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 12627096)

Yep, that's the one. My home away from home :)

Pornwolf 06-19-2007 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 12627176)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No child left behind is doing wonders.

Har dee har harrr. I'm here for your entertainment.

You can see me here 7 nights a week. 2 shows at 7:30 and at 10. 2 drink minimum - no cover.


I put it simply because honestly a lot of science reverts to guess work and conjecture during the pre Mesozoic age.

Anything longer than 245million years ago they are basically guessing.

The Paleozoic era are times where the mass extinctions occurred, which they still don't fully understand.

Anything could have happened then. Let's not even discuss the precambrian age. If they can't fully explain what happened during the Paleozoic age then anything was possible during the Precambrian age. As I said before, looking how relatively fast developed civilizations have risen and fallen in the past 4000 years absolutely anything is possible.

Oh, and when I say "before the dinosaurs" I mean the Precambrian age. Smart asses.

StickyGreen 06-19-2007 09:25 PM

Here is an artist's rendition of how Plato described Atlantis:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...is_picture.jpg

aico 06-20-2007 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12627625)
Har dee har harrr. I'm here for your entertainment.

You can see me here 7 nights a week. 2 shows at 7:30 and at 10. 2 drink minimum - no cover.


I put it simply because honestly a lot of science reverts to guess work and conjecture during the pre Mesozoic age.

Anything longer than 245million years ago they are basically guessing.

The Paleozoic era are times where the mass extinctions occurred, which they still don't fully understand.

Anything could have happened then. Let's not even discuss the precambrian age. If they can't fully explain what happened during the Paleozoic age then anything was possible during the Precambrian age. As I said before, looking how relatively fast developed civilizations have risen and fallen in the past 4000 years absolutely anything is possible.

Oh, and when I say "before the dinosaurs" I mean the Precambrian age. Smart asses.

Big words won't change the fact that Atlantis civilization was AFTER the dinosaurs.

Pornwolf 06-20-2007 01:50 AM

After the Dinosaurs? Dude, Atlantis is a story. Nothing more. It was meant to be a template for his vision of a perfect society. For you to argue about what era it existed is about as smart as arguing how big Noah's Ark was. I think most scholars will back me up in my thinking.

My argument is that a highly evolved civilization like Atlantis could have truly existed. Could it have been the one Plato saw in his busy mind? That's very possible. Plato's vision of the when and where it happend? Not so likely... unless you believe in Greek Gods and all the other madness that surrounded his idea.

Still I say anything is possible a long time ago. A city like Atlantis could have existed a long long time ago. Much longer than 11k years though. I think our perception of how and when intelligent life existed or could have existed on this planet is waay too short time-wise. There's lots of years, cycles of life and possible origins of life to play with.

To think that Atlantis is 10,000 years old and all the technological wonders that they had somehow didn't trickle down to anyone else on Earth is ludicrous. If something like that existed it goes back many years. Long enough for the technology and the civilization to become extinct and forgotten.

But hey, maybe it was just 11 k years ago. The Japanese had to have come from somewhere. You don't create great hardware companies like Sony, look as different as they do and enjoy blowing eels out your ass if you don't have a different kinda highly evolved yet self destructive lineage.

So, anyway, Aico tell me, did it rain for 40 days and 40 nights or was it 39 days and 40 nights? Please, break that down for me since you have the hard facts of real history events such as these.

aico 06-20-2007 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12628578)
After the Dinosaurs?

Ya, I am pretty sure any society in history be it a story or real, was after the dinosaurs. I don't know, call me crazy, but I have a hunch.


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