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rapmaster 06-18-2007 06:59 PM

Google: duplicate content
 
Say I want to use a story that I purchased the rights to - if I change it up a bit, do I still have to worry about google detecting duplicate content somewhere on the internet?

edgeprod 06-18-2007 07:10 PM

I have yet to see significant evidence that this actually is a major concern.

hungry hungry hippy 06-18-2007 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 12621074)
I have yet to see significant evidence that this actually is a major concern.

agree ......................... 50

Turboface 06-18-2007 08:48 PM

Changing up the text of anything that is going to be reproduced on a large number of different websites, such as articles, would be recommended. If you have the exact same text on a whole bunch of pages, the Google duplicate content filters will kick in. However, this is just Google. The other search engines do not use anything like this, that I am aware of, at this time.

dcortez 06-18-2007 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rapmaster (Post 12621020)
Say I want to use a story that I purchased the rights to - if I change it up a bit, do I still have to worry about google detecting duplicate content somewhere on the internet?

Duplicate content is a serious consideration when trying to build SEO.

That's why scrapers often screw up the ranks of those they steal the content from (until they get nailed).

The algo which G uses is far more sophisticated than you may think.

Simple "fixing up the text" will probably get nailed for dup content.

If you licensed the text legally, I'm surprised your agreement does not limit you to a single use of that text, Unless it's marketing prose, if you're seriously trying to build SE traffic, put the content in one good place and make sure that there are links to it.

If you're getting text which is already shared by others, don't expect much. Sloppy seconds are just as cheap in SEO as they are in real life.

rapmaster 06-18-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez (Post 12621469)
Duplicate content is a serious consideration when trying to build SEO.

That's why scrapers often screw up the ranks of those they steal the content from (until they get nailed).

The algo which G uses is far more sophisticated than you may think.

Simple "fixing up the text" will probably get nailed for dup content.

If you licensed the text legally, I'm surprised your agreement does not limit you to a single use of that text, Unless it's marketing prose, if you're seriously trying to build SE traffic, put the content in one good place and make sure that there are links to it.

If you're getting text which is already shared by others, don't expect much. Sloppy seconds are just as cheap in SEO as they are in real life.

Thanks for the advice. I have a lot of stories for my members area but was just wondering if I could use some of them for a bit of SEO but it's probably not really worth the time.

baddog 06-18-2007 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rapmaster (Post 12621680)
Thanks for the advice. I have a lot of stories for my members area but was just wondering if I could use some of them for a bit of SEO but it's probably not really worth the time.

robots.txt will keep google out and it will no longer be a concern . . .





sorry just re-read your reply . . . just use individual paragraphs of the stories on each site :2 cents:

edgeprod 06-18-2007 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez (Post 12621469)
The algo which G uses is far more sophisticated than you may think.

Sorry, but you're talking out your ass.

I'm not trying to make you feel bad.

Turboface 06-18-2007 10:38 PM

Here is a quick article on how to avoid Google's duplicate content filters.

shahab6 06-18-2007 10:49 PM

I heard as along as u change 20% of content you will be fine.

OzMan 06-18-2007 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 12621860)
Here is a quick article on how to avoid Google's duplicate content filters.

quoting percentages are funny unless they come from Google themselves which you'll never see.

That article can be summed up with one short quote from it...

"Will this guarantee that your website stays in Google?s index? I don?t know."

:thumbsup

edgeprod 06-18-2007 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan (Post 12621938)
quoting percentages are funny unless they come from Google themselves which you'll never see.

That article can be summed up with one short quote from it...

"Will this guarantee that your website stays in Google?s index? I don?t know."

:thumbsup

That's why I get annoyed with the people who pretend to know. There ARE some serious SEO wizards on GFY, though. The shit Chio does with DUPLICATE content is nothing short of amazing.

However, we're about to alleviate all of the concerns about it, bullshit or not. Take a peek at:

http://www.feedpushers.com

Turboface 06-18-2007 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan (Post 12621938)
quoting percentages are funny unless they come from Google themselves which you'll never see.

That article can be summed up with one short quote from it...

"Will this guarantee that your website stays in Google?s index? I don?t know."

:thumbsup

lol - ya, you're right. That guy went a little over board there. The basic principles he touched on there and other talk about it out there is - change your shit around, cause Google will penalize.

divine116 06-18-2007 11:58 PM

Of course you to worry about that, coz that is penalize!

zeruel 06-19-2007 12:38 AM

having duplicate content is surely not a good thing... better have your original content than suffer from getting penalized... :winkwink:

TheJimmy 06-19-2007 12:52 AM

a great SEO concept "spaghetti - just throw it!"

:pimp

Feel free to quote meh

dcortez 06-19-2007 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 12621847)
Sorry, but you're talking out your ass.

I'm not trying to make you feel bad.

You could have tried harder :)

In any case, the reason I say that G's algo for detecting dupe content is more sophisticated than most consider is not out of any respect for G' technology, but more from a rigorous first hand trial over 2 years and involving over 75,000 pages.

You can believe whichever orifice these words are coming out of (as in read my ass, or lips - your choice), but as far as I'm concerned even similar writing style without enough diversity in the content will get lumped as dupe.

But that's just my experience.

rapmaster 06-19-2007 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez (Post 12627469)
You could have tried harder :)

In any case, the reason I say that G's algo for detecting dupe content is more sophisticated than most consider is not out of any respect for G' technology, but more from a rigorous first hand trial over 2 years and involving over 75,000 pages.

You can believe whichever orifice these words are coming out of (as in read my ass, or lips - your choice), but as far as I'm concerned even similar writing style without enough diversity in the content will get lumped as dupe.

But that's just my experience.

wow... even similar writing style??? that's pretty crazy.


and baddog... breaking it up, rewriting the parts and using them as teasers does seem like a good idea - and that's pretty much what I'm going to do.


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