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abcx 05-26-2007 06:07 PM

2008 Presidential Election Prediction
 
Who do you think will get elected?

Hillary Clinton?
Gore?
Obama?
Guiliani?

Im hoping Gore joins the race and runs with Hillary.

GatorB 05-26-2007 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abcx (Post 12494345)
Who do you think will get elected?

Hillary Clinton?
Gore?
Obama?
Guiliani?

Im hoping Gore joins the race and runs with Hillary.

Gore would never run with Hillary. Hillary does NOT to be president. A Gore/Hillary ticket would be as likely as Bill turning down a blow job from an intern.

Pricelessprod 05-26-2007 06:11 PM

Guilianni!!! Go Rudy!!

notabook 05-26-2007 06:25 PM

There is only one choice for President for 2008:

BILL RICHARDSON

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If you don?t vote for Bill Richardson, you are a terrorist and also you like communism and you eat baby seals after choking them to death with your bare hands.

abcx 05-26-2007 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abcx (Post 12494345)
Who do you think will get elected?

Hillary Clinton?
Gore?
Obama?
Guiliani?

Im hoping Gore joins the race and runs with Hillary.

Either Hillary as VP or Bill Clinton as VP. Legally he can do it and that would be MY guess for the winner. Gore/Bill Clinton

notabook 05-26-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abcx (Post 12494417)
Either Hillary as VP or Bill Clinton as VP. Legally he can do it and that would be MY guess for the winner. Gore/Bill Clinton

Well the jury is still out on if Bill could be VP. The 12th Amendment states "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President." and since he's already been president twice and cannot be President a third time, he should be ineligible for the Vice Presidency.

The 22nd Amendment though is what "gives him the chance" at being a VP, but since it is not clear either which way it would have to be solved legally.

BobG 05-26-2007 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notabook (Post 12494398)
There is only one choice for President for 2008:

BILL RICHARDSON

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If you don?t vote for Bill Richardson, you are a terrorist and also you like communism and you eat baby seals after choking them to death with your bare hands.

He's legalizing pot in New Mexico. I don't smoke but :thumbsup on that

notabook 05-26-2007 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BobG (Post 12494430)
He's legalizing pot in New Mexico. I don't smoke but :thumbsup on that

Bill Richardson would be the best President the US has seen in decades... it's sad that he gets so little attention.

GatorB 05-26-2007 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notabook (Post 12494427)
Well the jury is still out on if Bill could be VP. The 12th Amendment states "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President." and since he's already been president twice and cannot be President a third time, he should be ineligible for the Vice Presidency.

The 22nd Amendment though is what "gives him the chance" at being a VP, but since it is not clear either which way it would have to be solved legally.

The 12th Amendment is pretty clear cut. No ambiguity about it. Besides the reason why you have a VP is in case the President dies or is otherwise unable to continue on as President and thus the VP then becomes President. Since Bill Clinton can't be President what would be the point of making him VP?

GatorB 05-26-2007 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notabook (Post 12494433)
Bill Richardson would be the best President the US has seen in decades... it's sad that he gets so little attention.

You work on the internet you know to promote things on the internet. If you think he's so great why not make people more aware of him with your skills in internet promotion.

notabook 05-26-2007 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12494436)
The 12th Amendment is pretty clear cut. No ambiguity about it. Besides the reason why you have a VP is in case the President dies or is otherwise unable to continue on as President and thus the VP then becomes President. Since Bill Clinton can't be President what would be the point of making him VP?

Well that's where there is a different school of thought because of the 22nd ammendment, which it states:

"Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section. 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress."


It says "elected". In case of the president dying/incapacitated, is the vice president elected to become president? Or is he just merely serving or appointed to the presidency, rather than being elected? That's where it becomes confusing and it would probably take the courts to decide.



Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
You work on the internet you know to promote things on the internet. If you think he's so great why not make people more aware of him with your skills in internet promotion.

ROFL.. yeah America voting in a half beaner, like that’ll happen in this century. :1orglaugh

GatorB 05-26-2007 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notabook (Post 12494455)
ROFL.. yeah America voting in a half beaner, like that?ll happen in this century. :1orglaugh

You do realize that there are more Hispanics than blacks now. 4 states not counting Hawaii has population where whites are under 50% mainly because of increases in hispanic population.

notabook 05-26-2007 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12494464)
You do realize that there are more Hispanics than blacks now. 4 states not counting Hawaii has population where whites are under 50% mainly because of increases in hispanic population.

Hmm... naaa... still won't be enough, at least not for a few decades. But if we could somehow maybe perhaps nice lady give the illegals the ability to vote... :winkwink:

porntertainment 05-26-2007 07:08 PM

I'm not going to vote, but I want Ron Paul to win.

GatorB 05-26-2007 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porntertainment (Post 12494474)
I'm not going to vote, but I want Ron Paul to win.

Why?????

madawgz 05-26-2007 07:10 PM

its obvious Hillary is going to win :\

notabook 05-26-2007 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madawgz (Post 12494484)
its obvious Hillary is going to win :\

Don't say that... don't say that :disgust :disgust :disgust

The Truth Hurts 05-26-2007 07:23 PM

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porntertainment 05-26-2007 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12494482)
Why?????

Because I agree with most of what Ron Paul stands for. I particularly like his stance on foreign policy, avoiding foreign political entanglements but building strong trade and financial ties with other countries. Domestically, he's for property rights, lower spending, and privacy. And he's not just saying these things to get voters, his voting record is consistent with his views. He seems like the real deal.

Snake Doctor 05-26-2007 07:32 PM

The 22nd amendment thing is a little murky, but the bottom line is no former president would want to be VP anyways, so it wouldn't happen.

A more likely scenario would be one in which a former president became speaker of the house, and therefore 3rd in line.

baddog 05-26-2007 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abcx (Post 12494417)
Either Hillary as VP or Bill Clinton as VP. Legally he can do it and that would be MY guess for the winner. Gore/Bill Clinton

You should probably kill yourself now if you think that is even a remote possibility. Would be funny, but would never happen.

baddog 05-26-2007 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madawgz (Post 12494484)
its obvious Hillary is going to win :\

It is obvious you are high

baddog 05-26-2007 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porntertainment (Post 12494504)
Because I agree with most of what Ron Paul stands for. I particularly like his stance on foreign policy, avoiding foreign political entanglements but building strong trade and financial ties with other countries. Domestically, he's for property rights, lower spending, and privacy. And he's not just saying these things to get voters, his voting record is consistent with his views. He seems like the real deal.

Why aren't you voting?

porntertainment 05-26-2007 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12494567)
Why aren't you voting?

Because I'm Canadian. :winkwink: :1orglaugh

baddog 05-26-2007 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porntertainment (Post 12494594)
Because I'm Canadian. :winkwink: :1orglaugh

Then we appreciate it, and will find someone other than Ron Paul to vote for.

abcx 05-26-2007 09:11 PM

I think it could happen, CNN wrote an article on why it was possible and the general public is so upset with the Bush Administration that a radical change should occur. I think either Bill or Hillary would love to be in office and that the American Public will go with a proven team over gambling with the safety of the countries leadership.

baddog 05-26-2007 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abcx (Post 12494795)
I think it could happen, CNN wrote an article on why it was possible and the general public is so upset with the Bush Administration that a radical change should occur. I think either Bill or Hillary would love to be in office and that the American Public will go with a proven team over gambling with the safety of the countries leadership.

I have to keep looking at your location, you sound like you are totally unfamiliar with our system.

While it would be funnier than hell to see Bill running against Hillary, there is not a snowball's chance in hell.

Mr. Blue 05-26-2007 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notabook (Post 12494433)
Bill Richardson would be the best President the US has seen in decades... it's sad that he gets so little attention.

yep, I think Bill Richardson would be great as President, but seriously he stands absolutely no chance in hell of winning. Too bad though...he's the best candidate.

BT 05-26-2007 10:16 PM

Clinton is back in the house

Snake Doctor 05-26-2007 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue (Post 12494831)
yep, I think Bill Richardson would be great as President, but seriously he stands absolutely no chance in hell of winning. Too bad though...he's the best candidate.

He would be a really strong VP candidate though, especially if someone without alot of experience gets the nomination.

Look for him to make a strong run in 4 or 8 years depending on how '08 turns out. He has a hell of a resume but is largely unknown and in a field full of heavyweights. His time will come. :2 cents:

uno 05-26-2007 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notabook (Post 12494398)
There is only one choice for President for 2008:

BILL RICHARDSON

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6...rdtacoshu4.jpg

If you don?t vote for Bill Richardson, you are a terrorist and also you like communism and you eat baby seals after choking them to death with your bare hands.

Well I agree with some of that at least.

I think Richardson will take the nomination if cooler heads prevail.

uno 05-26-2007 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12494436)
The 12th Amendment is pretty clear cut. No ambiguity about it. Besides the reason why you have a VP is in case the President dies or is otherwise unable to continue on as President and thus the VP then becomes President. Since Bill Clinton can't be President what would be the point of making him VP?

Possibly a tie breaking vote in the senate?

BradM 05-26-2007 10:55 PM

Charisma wins elections.

Giuliana will win. You'll come back to this next year and see.

latinasojourn 05-27-2007 12:22 AM

Edwards, pres
Obama, VP or Clinton VP

(Edwards is sleeper right now but it showing very high in telephone polls and he has not started actively campaigning yet.)

crockett 05-27-2007 12:33 AM

I always liked Ewards and I'd love to see him run with Obama as VP. I actually like Obama and think he would make a great pres for this country, however this country sadly isn't ready for him.

On Republican side the only guy I've seen that has a clue is John Paul. Too bad he doesn't have a chance.

tiger 05-27-2007 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pricelessprod (Post 12494359)
Guilianni!!! Go Rudy!!

You really like trannies huh.

GatorB 05-27-2007 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by latinasojourn (Post 12495307)
Edwards, pres
Obama, VP or Clinton VP

(Edwards is sleeper right now but it showing very high in telephone polls and he has not started actively campaigning yet.)

I like Edwards. Polls don't matter at this time 4 years ago Dean was the runaway leader. Edwards is leading in Iowa though. Lots of southern states are having primaries early next year so I think Edwards can gain some momentum. Hillary is goingto win NY and Obamma Illnois hopefully those 2 take away from each other in California and Edwards sneaks in a win there.

Bill Richardson should be the VP. He sucres NM for the Dems. Kerry lost NM in 2004. Yes only 5 electoral votes. Kerry would have wound up with 263 instead of 258. Still every one counts. He also halps secure the Hispanic vote. Bush ahd the advantage that the hsipancis like him enough to give him 1/3 of their vote. No republican this time is going to get that plus adding Richardson should make sure California and Florida go to the dems.

What does Obamma do? Illnois always votes Dem and 90% of blacks already vote dem. Hillary will win NY which dems will win anyways unless Guilliani gets the GOP nomination. And she may drive some potential votes away in the South which the dems desperately need.

shermo 05-27-2007 07:56 PM

Is Mary Carey running again?

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Snake Doctor 05-27-2007 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by latinasojourn (Post 12495307)
Edwards, pres
Obama, VP or Clinton VP

(Edwards is sleeper right now but it showing very high in telephone polls and he has not started actively campaigning yet.)

Hahahaha, that's hilarious. Edwards has been camping out in Iowa and New Hampshire since the day after the last election :1orglaugh

I like Edwards and I think he has the potential to be a strong candidate in the general, but he's not even close to being a "sleeper".

GatorB 05-27-2007 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 12498652)
Hahahaha, that's hilarious. Edwards has been camping out in Iowa and New Hampshire since the day after the last election :1orglaugh

I like Edwards and I think he has the potential to be a strong candidate in the general, but he's not even close to being a "sleeper".

So are you saying he's stronger than a sleeper or not even good enough to be a sleeper. Remember Edwards was nowhere on the map the day before the Iowa caucuses in 2004 and he rode a 2nd place finish to the VP nomination. I believe Wesley Clark cost Edwards primary wins in Oklahoma and Tennessee. If Edwards won those who knows how much futher that may have carried him.

Pornwolf 05-27-2007 08:20 PM

These are my picks in order of ability to be a good pres:

Edwards: All around good... maybe too good, hmm
Kucinich: Damn good platform... looks like a leprechaun so will not be taken seriously
Gore: Great ideas, experience... likely to stick foot in mouth
Obama: Great ideas, stance... not enough experience dealing with the snakes that make Washington work

Bill Richardson will never touch the White House. Too many people think he's a raving lunatic.

GatorB 05-27-2007 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12498686)
These are my picks in order of ability to be a good pres:

Edwards: All around good... maybe too good, hmm
Kucinich: Damn good platform... looks like a leprechaun so will not be taken seriously
Gore: Great ideas, experience... likely to stick foot in mouth
Obama: Great ideas, stance... not enough experience dealing with the snakes that make Washington work

Bill Richardson will never touch the White House. Too many people think he's a raving lunatic.

Gore is not even running. Richardson has already worked in the White House before. Hispanics won't care if he's crazy. He's one of them so they'll vote for him. Dems will vote for a Satan/Saddam ticket if it means keeping the GOP out of the White House. He's white enough sounding to grab enough of the indpendant vote to help a ticket win.

CDSmith 05-27-2007 08:33 PM

What a great thread.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-27-2007 08:39 PM

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Mr. Blue 05-27-2007 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 12495027)
He would be a really strong VP candidate though, especially if someone without alot of experience gets the nomination.

Look for him to make a strong run in 4 or 8 years depending on how '08 turns out. He has a hell of a resume but is largely unknown and in a field full of heavyweights. His time will come. :2 cents:

I don't think they'll give him the VP nod even, which is ashame, but it's most likely going to happen.

He actually has more experience than the others and he's also removed from the typical Washington politician which is a good thing. The problem is name recognition, people don't know his record, and I don't think he could carry any of the redneck states.

tony286 05-27-2007 10:54 PM

they are all bowls of shit.


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