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fuzzylogic 05-26-2007 05:39 PM

What states do NOT allow Atheists to hold public office?
 
anyone know or
know where to find this out?

thx

sailfish 05-26-2007 05:41 PM

First State I would research is Utah

fuzzylogic 05-26-2007 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailfish (Post 12494270)
First State I would research is Utah

nope, UT is not one of them. these are the states: AR, MA, MD, NC, PA, SC and TN


here is the info:


source: http://www.religioustolerance.org/texas.htm

quote:

The Bill of Rights of the Texas Constitution (Article I, Section 4) allows people to be excluded from holding office on religious grounds. An official may be "excluded from holding office" if she/he does not "acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."

This form of religious intolerance is not limited to Texas. Seven other states (AR, MA, MD, NC, PA, SC and TN) all have similar exclusionary language included in their Bill of Rights, Declaration of Rights, or in the body of their constitutions.

In a few states whose constitutions include the text of the oath of office, the candidate must swear an oath to God. Such an oath would prevent ethical non-theists from taking office. Of course, non-ethical non-theists would have no problems with such an oath.

Pleasurepays 05-26-2007 06:00 PM

which states criminal courts or federal courts allow non-athiests to testify in a court of law?


according to the pathetic reasoning of that article and this thread... the answer is 0

fuzzylogic 05-26-2007 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12494326)
which states criminal courts or federal courts allow non-athiests to testify in a court of law?


according to the pathetic reasoning of that article and this thread... the answer is 0

what does a belief in a supreme being have to do with a court of law?

GatorB 05-26-2007 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 12494302)
nope, UT is not one of them. these are the states: AR, MA, MD, NC, PA, SC and TN


here is the info:


source: http://www.religioustolerance.org/texas.htm

quote:

The Bill of Rights of the Texas Constitution (Article I, Section 4) allows people to be excluded from holding office on religious grounds. An official may be "excluded from holding office" if she/he does not "acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."

This form of religious intolerance is not limited to Texas. Seven other states (AR, MA, MD, NC, PA, SC and TN) all have similar exclusionary language included in their Bill of Rights, Declaration of Rights, or in the body of their constitutions.

In a few states whose constitutions include the text of the oath of office, the candidate must swear an oath to God. Such an oath would prevent ethical non-theists from taking office. Of course, non-ethical non-theists would have no problems with such an oath.


That's a violation of the 1st Amendment.

aico 05-26-2007 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 12494335)
what does a belief in a supreme being have to do with a court of law?

In order to testify you must swear to God with your hand on the Bible that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

GatorB 05-26-2007 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 12494355)
In order to testify you must swear to God with your hand on the Bible that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

You are allowed to affirm that you will tell the truth.

fuzzylogic 05-26-2007 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 12494355)
In order to testify you must swear to God with your hand on the Bible that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Apparently i didn't phrase my question correctly. my bad. give me 10 minutes and i will try again.

gornyhuy 05-26-2007 06:31 PM

Holy Crap, that can't be true!?!!?

woj 05-26-2007 06:41 PM

That's pretty fucked up

CWeb 05-26-2007 06:46 PM

Obviously a belief in a higher being is a prerequistite to building roads, collecting sales taxes and balancing state budgets :pimp

Tho maybe the budget balancing relies on a higher being - depending *lol*

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Lance69 08-11-2007 02:40 PM

Jesus Christ, :helpme

Pun intended.

dav3 08-11-2007 02:56 PM

So much for separation of church and state.

Snake Doctor 08-11-2007 05:04 PM

How do they get around the "no religious test" to hold public office part of the constitution?

Libertine 08-11-2007 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 12914411)
How do they get around the "no religious test" to hold public office part of the constitution?

They're not asking for a specific religion - any religion will do. So, they're not checking whether you follow a specific religion.

And yes, I know how twisted such "logic" is.

Snake Doctor 08-11-2007 05:09 PM

Article VI

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

cashbot 08-11-2007 05:25 PM

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cones 08-11-2007 06:03 PM

and they call it the land of the free

cones 08-11-2007 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cones (Post 12914642)
and they call it the land of the free

wheres daddy halbucks when I want to insult the fuck out of him :1orglaugh

cashbot 08-11-2007 11:44 PM

Very interesting post


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