war in iraq cost each citizen $1500
 

i took the # off of costofwar.com and divided it by the population stat from the census bureau.



that would be a nice plasma tv

I would have just spent it on scotch anyway.

population including children and those who recieve welfare?

Does that include the cost for all the lives lost too? I couldn't imagine putting any sort of value on that.

its rough, i mentioned my equation. i divided it off of straight population and never claimed anything more, its simplistic, and wanted to put it in that perspective.

Good thing its paid back in cheap oil, then.

what did the illegals pay?

i thought, well, if we had elected people with good judgement, no war, and they could have sent every citizen a check for $1500 and wed be at the same spot we are today

i want my $1500

The ones on welfare are paying with their lives as the reserve units they joined to supplement welfare get called up.

http://www.army.com/enlist/reserve-duty-pay.html

As you can see by that link, no one joins to get rich and anyone making any kind of money at all wouldn't waste their time. So guess who signs up.

-------:(

That's just amazing....

I'm seeing 2 different costs when I open that site with Firefox and Ie.

Not that reliable, huh?

I'm seeing 2 different costs when I open that site with Firefox and Ie.

Not that reliable, huh?

Sounds about right man...

Was just about to post some pics to illustrate how cheap and easy $1500 or a plasma tv has been to many in this war - but the images are just too gross for anything as trivial as a chatboard and feels disrespectful to "use" their images :(

In general, the image content is of dead kids burned by phosphorus chemical weapons, US forces with their faces blown off, more kids dying of starvation in Iraq, bodies decaptitated by gunfire etc - these are the people who were affected for $1500... Very sad.

do they accept credit cards? i need to pay my bill.

It's probably more around $3000-3500 since only around 50% of the population is working and paying taxes at any given time (obvious this amount fluctuates).

how much does that work at per dead iraq person?

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

Illegal immigrants cost us 2 times ++
:disgust

Bombing Berlin killed 750,000 to 1 million people 60k is not that high for a war this long AND most have been killed by their own people/terrorists

:disgust :disgust :disgust

The nicest thing is that the Democrats just caved in to the Republicans when it came to including a retreat date.

Now Bush has a free pass for another year of wasting money on his botched oil war.

Or they are allowing the GOP to continue to bury themselves and will take the Whitehouse next Nov... :pimp

Damn man, I think the actual loss of human life is what matters. All the people that have died and will continue dying over a war fought because... what? Who the fuck knows?

funny how you say 60000 isnt a big deal, but remember this was all "setup" over a 3000 kill from "terrorists" the country didnt have to do anything about anyway..

american views of things are so scewed.

The whole world is going to be paying a price for the actions in Iraq for years too come.

yeah and dont forget that the pursuit for oil and power in the middle-east costed the USA WAY MORE lives then in 9/11, and i mean a LOT MORE


ah well, if the president does it its ok i guess?

When did the first Gulf War ened? Oh ya it didnt :) This IS NOT a NEW war.

Our attack of Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11 see:

?If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the thereat posed by Iraq?s weapons of mass destruction program? President Bill Clinton Feb. 17, 1998

?I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.? Sen. John F Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

?We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.? Al Gore, Sept. 23 2002

?We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.? Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

?We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction.? Madeline Albright, Feb. 1, 1998

?He (Saddam Hussein) will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 19983.? Sandy Berger (Clinton National Security Adviser), Feb. 18, 1998

?Saddam Hussein has been engaged in development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspections process.? Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA) Dec. 16 1998

yeah and funny that nothing has been found of that besides oil..

dumb kid

You dont even know who those people are....or you would get my joke :)

How many times have you posted that man?? :winkwink:

Can't speak for anyone else, but really don't give a shit what *any* politician in the US has to say on any subject. The track record has been a disaster for decades - so why trust it?

As for "opinions", 70% of the population were in support of an invasion. Now 70% want to forget the invasion and get out. Again.. why bother with their opinions? They are too fickle.

Only sympathy I got is with the people who suffered and died in this war - on both sides. Both Iraq and the US will be paying a price for a long time ahead now and internal politics of the US don't really matter.

HOLY SHIT WE HAVE A WINNER!!! YOU FUCKING GOT MY POINT! :thumbsup :thumbsup Time to look for others to lead http://lp.org

ps I dont like polls..... 90+% of the US didnt think we should stop hitler after he attacked France.

It would've gone to the government anyway :winkwink:

We have? :winkwink: OK then - did not know where you were coming from :-)

Damn, even at the prices charged at the military bases around here (San Diego), that's a lot of haircuts!!!!!!!!

Yep.. sure does buy a few haircuts Dave :winkwink: :thumbsup

Most bash bush around here so I like to remind them what the other side says. I hate both sides becaue both of them are looking to turn the US into a controled welfare state and that is not good.

That's a sobering number :( Not to mention life's that have been loss in a pointless war

It's much the same in other countries - the political game seems to attract a certain type of creature. Rarely do any of them stand out or be an actual asset to a country - they just waste and squander public funds on half-baked projects then cancel them, - or create new projects and don't fund them, initiate wars or whatever and cover their self-interests *lol*

If that was a company - they'd prob end up in a jailcell for misuse of shareholder funds :pimp

Flipside.. and at another level - tho this may be more US than elsewhere - they abuse the electorate with diatribes of slanted bulllshit/propaganda intended to sway and decieve. (The effects of this are fairly clear just looking at GFY posts). This conduct is very divisory in any society and not helpful - but, it's just them covering their fat asses again :)

well, 6 million people died in just the holocaust so 60k in people is nothing

absolutely, but your talking reality

this war is not a shared sacrifice, the sacrifice of life is being done by a different set of people than are the ones making the decisions about the war

this is a stat that hits people where i think they feel it the most, it shows how much money each of them "sacrificed" for the war, although i bet most dont realize it

um, most of that 70% had a hell of a lot more faith in the president than i did at the time, but they made it sound like we were protecting ourselves by invading preemptively

wmd were not there, we leave. simple as that

More like 70% trusted what their government was telling them, which has proven to be disastrous, as they've lied, cheated and bent nearly every rule to accommodate their agenda. They misused the trust of the American people, and made them believe something they wouldn't have, had real honest facts been presented.

It was not just Bush beating the war drum. Do I need to post the quotes again? :1orglaugh THEY ALL FUCKED US. :321GFY

So explain why we are still upset about 3000 dead on 9/11.
If 60k is "nothing" then wouldn't 3k be "less than nothing"?

Of course, you'd probably be mad as hell if you found out that those 60k people were killed by OJ. :1orglaugh

they followed the administration, bush, they (and many citizens) had faith in him at the time, gave him the benefit of the doubt

i was suspicious and pissed when we invaded iraq. we were in Afghanistan hunting bin laden, 3 months before iraq was not even a topic, and i remember thinking wtf, were invading them now??? didnt make sense to me

i was being sarcastic, he was benchmarking the loss of life in iraq to bombings in an unrelated war, so i continued his logic and found another unrelated benchmark

1) 9/11 had nothing to do with Iraq

2) I never said 3k people was a lot.

3) OJ killed my dog :(