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PantieZ 05-19-2007 11:39 AM

blank model contract
 
the one i can use for a photoshooting

where can i get one ?

thx :)

AaronM 05-19-2007 11:41 AM

Well, an attorney is probably a better place to find one than GFY.

I know I pay to get mine so I'm not sure why you think it should be handed to you for free.

PantieZ 05-19-2007 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12457263)
Well, an attorney is probably a better place to find one than GFY.

I know I pay to get mine so I'm not sure why you think it should be handed to you for free.

I thought there might be some standard ones ...

AaronM 05-19-2007 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ (Post 12457277)
I thought there might be some standard ones ...


Since you don't seem to know that you need a release and not a contract...Perhaps you should listen to my first reply instead of thinking on your own.

Twisted Dave 05-19-2007 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12457288)
Since you don't seem to know that you need a release and not a contract...Perhaps you should listen to my first reply instead of thinking on your own.

So instead of being sarcastic or quick to put him down ... why don't you pass on some details for a good adult industry lawyer ? :)

I think that'd be nice :) Coz I'm guessing a fair number of lawyers wont touch adult industry for shit ....

:)

PantieZ 05-19-2007 12:00 PM

ok ....

Where can I get a blank "model release" ?

I am shure there is a standard one.

I am just to lazy to scan one and erase the filled lines.

thx a lot :)

Juilan 05-19-2007 12:12 PM

This is not an area where you can afford to be lazy or cheap. Either hire a contract lawyer to prepare it (mine only charged $200 for this). Or meet with an established photographer that lives near you that shoots adult and hope he knows his legal shit.

Lifer 05-19-2007 12:36 PM

Unbelieveable

CyberHustler 05-19-2007 12:39 PM

lol, you guys make it difficult. Give him a contact or somethin' like a true stand up bro kind of guy would. :thumbsup

MaDalton 05-19-2007 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ (Post 12457312)
ok ....

Where can I get a blank "model release" ?

I am shure there is a standard one.

I am just to lazy to scan one and erase the filled lines.

thx a lot :)

regarding the fact that i paid good money to have mine done by a lawyer who knows what to do this answer is really hilarious

just as a public note: whoever copies our releases will get to know my gay lawyer - he will fuck you either way

whomework 05-19-2007 12:43 PM

I would def get a lawyer because you need to keep 2257 under wraps as well so I don't think its as cut and dry as you might think. A little expense now will save you a LOT of expense later if you do it wrong.

PantieZ 05-19-2007 12:44 PM

OK OK FOLKS i got it !!!

I will get a gay lawyer, pay him and get one .... :1orglaugh

D 05-19-2007 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ (Post 12457312)
ok ....

Where can I get a blank "model release" ?

I am shure there is a standard one.

I am just to lazy to scan one and erase the filled lines.

thx a lot :)

I wouldn't recommend doing that, because if you get caught, you've just fucked yourself... as it's theft.

If you're looking to build a legitimate and reputable business, just hire a lawyer to do it for you. It's not that expensive, comparably, and then not only have you protected yourself from future liability in regards to theft, but you also have a document tailor-made for your business in the municipal region and state that your business resides in... protecting you from future liability in that regard, as well.

D 05-19-2007 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ (Post 12457408)
OK OK FOLKS i got it !!!

I will get a gay lawyer, pay him and get one .... :1orglaugh

werd. ya beat me to it. :-)

And he dioesn't have to be gay... just a member of the bar in your state. :-D

AaronM 05-19-2007 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twisted Illustration (Post 12457300)
So instead of being sarcastic or quick to put him down ... why don't you pass on some details for a good adult industry lawyer ? :)

I think that'd be nice :) Coz I'm guessing a fair number of lawyers wont touch adult industry for shit ....

:)


Instead of telling me WTF to do, maybe you could use the search feature, see that I have recommended www.xxxlaw.com multiple times over the years, and then re-post it yourself.

darling2 05-19-2007 12:56 PM

Talk to http://www.chadknowslaw.com/ He is gay and has a lot of big adult companies as clients

aico 05-19-2007 12:59 PM

Buy $35 worth of content some where, and copy the one that comes with that.

MaDalton 05-19-2007 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 12457442)
Buy $35 worth of content some where, and copy the one that comes with that.

i just deleted your account :mad:































:1orglaugh

aico 05-19-2007 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 12457486)
i just deleted your account :mad:































:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :pimp

Gumballs 05-19-2007 01:20 PM

It's better to get a lawyer involved, because laws will vary from state to state and just getting some standard form will probably not CYA. Goodluck, paying for an attorney will save you more money in the long run.

Gumballs

HotChocolate 05-19-2007 01:36 PM

Since everyone is being a prick here's a basic release which you can use: http://www.adultxxxlaw.com/members/f...el-release.doc

You might wanna have a lawyer look at it just to make sure it's right for you.:2 cents:

Wildcard2 05-19-2007 03:00 PM

Any and all forms you will need to get started to use as a base model.

http://www.adultsitelaw.com/forms.html

Even has video instructions and info.

WC2

PantieZ 05-19-2007 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcard2 (Post 12457750)
Any and all forms you will need to get started to use as a base model.

http://www.adultsitelaw.com/forms.html

Even has video instructions and info.

WC2

thx buddy :thumbsup
way cheaper than a gay lawyer :winkwink:

AaronM 05-19-2007 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ (Post 12457761)
thx buddy :thumbsup
way cheaper than a gay lawyer :winkwink:


Not really.

The release on that site is as bare bones as they come. I don;t have a single client who wouldn't laugh if I handed them that.

stickyfingerz 05-19-2007 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darling2 (Post 12457437)
Talk to http://www.chadknowslaw.com/ He is gay and has a lot of big adult companies as clients

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

PantieZ 05-19-2007 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12457777)
Not really.

The release on that site is as bare bones as they come. I don;t have a single client who wouldn't laugh if I handed them that.


ok

thx for your :2 cents:
... it´s a miracle I made it so many years in the biz without you guys.

frankly ... let´s face it. Your clients never read the release you give to them.
I am shure your models don´t read them either ...

Maybe I am wrong, maybe not ...

Peace :)

AaronM 05-19-2007 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ (Post 12457802)
ok

thx for your :2 cents:
... it´s a miracle I made it so many years in the biz without you guys.

frankly ... let´s face it. Your clients never read the release you give to them.
I am shure your models don´t read them either ...

Maybe I am wrong, maybe not ...

Peace :)



Of course you're wrong. You see...Most of my clients supply their own releases that they paid for.

I would not call it a miracle that you have made it this long without us....You've been half assing your way through a Federally regulated industry without an attorney......You must know all there is to know. :thumbsup

PantieZ 05-19-2007 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12457818)
Of course you're wrong. You see...Most of my clients supply their own releases that they paid for.

I would not call it a miracle that you have made it this long without us....You've been half assing your way through a Federally regulated industry without an attorney......You must know all there is to know. :thumbsup

half assing ... :winkwink: :thumbsup hehe

Wildcard2 05-19-2007 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12457777)
Not really.

The release on that site is as bare bones as they come. I don;t have a single client who wouldn't laugh if I handed them that.

Well thats why I said it was just a base to work from.

WC2

AaronM 05-19-2007 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcard2 (Post 12457839)
Well thats why I said it was just a base to work from.

WC2



I hear what you are saying but handing an attorney a release as a base to work from will most likely end up costing you more in the long run.

Why?

For the very same reason that it's better to hire a programmer to code something from scratch instead of having them alter something that already exists but does not fit the actual need.

I've been charged more by attorneys for them to review somebody else's paperwork than what they charged me to prepare similar paperwork from scratch.

Robbie 05-19-2007 03:48 PM

Lawyers...I have one. I don't like it. And in my opinion they don't know shit about the adult industry. I've spoken with a lot of them over they years...including a couple of the "famous" ones who appear on t.v. shows "defending" the porn industry. And not one of them has ever given me the slightest indication that they really know how our shit works. Matter of fact the majority of my conversations with them are always ME explaining stuff to THEM. :( They have been very good at sounding alarms constantly though. Sometimes they've been right. Most times not.
I keep one on retainer. He's pretty much useless. He's supposed to be a specialist in adult internet law. The other day I told him about this site...he knew nothing of it. Matter of fact he's still a little fuzzy on how affiliate programs work and how I can make money with a free site. LOL!
Anyway, my advice is to keep an attorney on retainer for the "Oh Shit" scenario. And other than that just use common sense. As for a model release...They are all pretty much the same. If you want to hire a lawyer who can never know as much about your business as you do to write an "ironclad" one...go ahead. And then I'd take that one from your lawyer and go grab several different ones from other companies and compare them and add the things that your lawyer missed. And no...nobody can sue you for "stealing" a freakin' model release...well, I guess if McDonald's can get sued for their coffee being too hot then maybe somebody would try that shit too. But they are all pretty much the same thing...every one I've seen or signed since 1995 were all saying the same thing...a few words added here and there to comply with changing tweaks to the law. But it's still the same thing. And since they all have to say the same things...they are all very much identical. Anyway, that's just my one and half cents from my experiences. I'm sure others have different ones.


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