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GooSearch 05-11-2007 08:32 PM

Chuck Liddell VS "Rampage" Jackson
 
so i was watching some old fights of rampage jackson.. i think he is gonna kick the shit out of liddell...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yCUdQPE6fus
:thumbsup

ready lube 05-11-2007 09:25 PM

Yeah I think that's what will happen. I just hope it's a good fight and goes a while.

SPACE GLIDER 05-11-2007 09:28 PM

Is there any doubt that Rampage is going to leave chuck a greasy smear on the canvas?

macromind 05-11-2007 09:58 PM

R.I.P. Liddell!

macromind

brownie 05-11-2007 10:02 PM

i'm picking rampage over liddell. after seeing liddell throw in the towel against rampage during their Pride fight i'm thinking rampage might have a mental edge over liddell. it's obvious they both kick some major ass but i'm thinkin' rampage may have chucky's number.

SomeCreep 05-11-2007 10:37 PM

No one on earth can defeat Liddell.

Lance69 05-11-2007 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 12412613)
No one on earth can defeat Liddell.

:1orglaugh

cess 05-11-2007 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 12412613)
No one on earth can defeat Liddell.

Rampage already did ;)

I couldn't pick one or the other this time though. Ever since Rampage found god and lost to W.Silva he hasn't been the same. He use to have a real killer kind of instinct that seems to have died down. If Rampage isn't mentally there like he use to be in fights then I don't see how he will win. :2 cents:

King Adam 05-11-2007 11:28 PM

Rampage can be beat. Just use the knee's.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aIRHqYUUOX8

cess 05-11-2007 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Adam (Post 12412727)
Rampage can be beat. Just use the knee's.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aIRHqYUUOX8

From what I read Shogun broke Rampages ribs in that fight. I am guessing that's what he's yelling to his coach. You can even see him kind of holding his arms around his ribs in dire pain. I'm sure those knees hurt like hell but that's Rampage...

It's unlikely Shogun or anyone else would be able to break Rampages ribs again by throwing knees. I'm not saying it isn't a good gameplan but most of the time that wouldn't happen.

SPACE GLIDER 05-12-2007 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 12412613)
No one on earth can defeat Liddell.

Uh ... that ship has already sailed ...

evildick 05-12-2007 06:09 AM

Here's the first fight between them. Almost hard to watch the last 30 seconds of it. Poor Chuck was getting pounded.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KoMzR...elated&search=

BT 05-12-2007 06:19 AM

Shootgun is a big boy and can throw down with the best of them but in anycase I will jump on the Lidell ban wagon against Jackson

gideongallery 05-12-2007 08:36 AM

isn't the last of the fights which chuck is avenging a loss
he avenged his loss to horn and the natural
rampage is the last guy who beat him that he need

CE_Rashaan 05-12-2007 10:33 AM

This will be a great fight...

Chuck is a great fighter....one of many Santa Barbara Bar Brawlers!

Rampage is looking pretty Diesel himself!

I am a Chuck fan and I want him to win...too close to call though.

Jago Webcams 05-12-2007 12:10 PM

I'm a HUGE rampage fan, but I think this will be a damn good fight.
Although they made chuck look pretty tough on Entourage last week :)

DavieVegas 05-12-2007 01:47 PM

Man this fight looks horrible. How slow was chuck in this fight. His hand speed and the way he throws punches now is wayy different. This wont be the same fight at all. This video of the past fight just looks slow and boring. Hope the fight is better then this one.

Drake 05-12-2007 02:06 PM

Could go either way. Chuck is a different fighter now. Also, aren't there slightly different rules in UFC compared to Pride. I wish Pride was on cable. It looks much more hardcore than UFC - more and better fighters.

Jago Webcams 05-12-2007 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike33 (Post 12415748)
Could go either way. Chuck is a different fighter now. Also, aren't there slightly different rules in UFC compared to Pride. I wish Pride was on cable. It looks much more hardcore than UFC - more and better fighters.

In Pride you could stomp on someone's head while they were on the mat, can't do that in UFC.

Lance69 05-12-2007 02:12 PM

Can't knee to the head on the ground in UFC, but in the UFC, unlike Pride you can throw elbows. Last I heard they were trying to add knees to the unified rules.

SPACE GLIDER 05-15-2007 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance69 (Post 12415785)
Can't knee to the head on the ground in UFC, but in the UFC, unlike Pride you can throw elbows. Last I heard they were trying to add knees to the unified rules.

What for? To turn it into the kind of fighting made for fighters who can't fight?

Lance69 05-15-2007 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPACE GLIDER (Post 12431249)
What for? To turn it into the kind of fighting made for fighters who can't fight?

Apparently you you don't know much bout MMA. Tell Fedor he can't fight cause he likes to knee.
The point is to make it as complete a sport as it can be.

Handy Man 05-15-2007 07:51 AM

I love Rampage but I wasn't convinced in his fight against Beastman. He kept ducking low to avoid Beastman's combos and Beastman wasn't savvy enough to follow up with knees and kicks.

Chuck has been on a tear lately. He hits so hard it's like he's packing plates in his gloves. His game has evolved and he's a smarter more disciplined fighter now.

My heart is with Rampage but my $$$$ is on Liddel.

SxDx 05-15-2007 08:21 AM

Chuck wasn't the figther he is now, back when he faced jackson. should be a good fight, but liddell is out to prove something. i say he knocks rampage out in the 2nd.

GooSearch 05-15-2007 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike33 (Post 12415748)
Could go either way. Chuck is a different fighter now. Also, aren't there slightly different rules in UFC compared to Pride. I wish Pride was on cable. It looks much more hardcore than UFC - more and better fighters.


pride is on brighthouse channel 39 i think it is here in tampa :thumbsup

sherie 05-15-2007 08:27 AM

I like them both. It's going to be an intersting fight, hopefully. I will take Rampage for shits and giggles...OH and now that the UFC has acquired Pride, I wonder what sorts of changes there will be with the rules...It's awesome that everyone will be able to fight each other!!

rocketrich 05-15-2007 08:39 AM

I say rampage has also improved since the last fight, they will both have a learning curve ahead.

HAPPYPEEKERS 05-15-2007 09:38 AM

Chuck fights totally different these days.. he has a gut on him now.. but he is one mean mother fucker.. I bet he wins.

Doctor Dre 05-15-2007 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPACE GLIDER (Post 12412440)
Is there any doubt that Rampage is going to leave chuck a greasy smear on the canvas?

While I want Rampage to win, I doubt he will... He's been comming out a bad loosing streak and I think Dana put him agaisn't the big man way too quickly.

I've seen a bet for rampage at 3.25... really great odds. Probably the best MMA fight to bet on if you ask me. (Rampage beeing the underdog)

But saying Rampage will destroy Chuck is dumb.

Doctor Dre 05-15-2007 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherie (Post 12434504)
I like them both. It's going to be an intersting fight, hopefully. I will take Rampage for shits and giggles...OH and now that the UFC has acquired Pride, I wonder what sorts of changes there will be with the rules...It's awesome that everyone will be able to fight each other!!

It will be unified MMA rules (elbows allowed, no knees on the ground, no suplex on the head, no foot stomps etc no freak shows and no 265 pounds + guys).

The fight will be in a ring and they will still keep putting the fighters in the middle when they are on the ground near the end of the ring.

As far as mega fights happening, if they manage to save pride's reputation in japan (lost TV deal a while ago... and lots of fighters), this could create one mega-huge MMA tournament.

Doctor Dre 05-15-2007 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance69 (Post 12415785)
Can't knee to the head on the ground in UFC, but in the UFC, unlike Pride you can throw elbows. Last I heard they were trying to add knees to the unified rules.

Not likely to happen the way Dana has been talking lately

Doctor Dre 05-15-2007 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cess (Post 12412770)
From what I read Shogun broke Rampages ribs in that fight. I am guessing that's what he's yelling to his coach. You can even see him kind of holding his arms around his ribs in dire pain. I'm sure those knees hurt like hell but that's Rampage...

It's unlikely Shogun or anyone else would be able to break Rampages ribs again by throwing knees. I'm not saying it isn't a good gameplan but most of the time that wouldn't happen.

Why not ? The clinch got Rampage many time. I wouldn't be surprised if Lidell trained the clinch a lot in case rampage got near him.

Doctor Dre 05-15-2007 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 12412613)
No one on earth can defeat Liddell.

I don't see Chuck standing one round agaisn't Fedor.

Lance69 05-15-2007 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 12435946)
Not likely to happen the way Dana has been talking lately

It's unfortunate, but one can hope.

GooSearch 05-15-2007 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 12435986)
I don't see Chuck standing one round agaisn't Fedor.

different weight classes.. IMo there is no one that can stand toe to toe with fedor

Anthony 05-15-2007 11:25 AM

UFC has not fully acquired PRIDE FC.

There are some things cropped up, which need to be taken care of by PRIDE before ZUFFA buys it.

Anthony 05-15-2007 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GooSearch (Post 12436329)
different weight classes.. IMo there is no one that can stand toe to toe with fedor

Chuck walks around around 220 to 230lbs. Fedor fights at 230lbs.

It could be the same weight class, if both wanted it.

necoeds 05-15-2007 11:29 AM

HOLY SHIT, it hurt a little bit to watch that video.

Lance69 05-15-2007 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GooSearch (Post 12436329)
different weight classes.. IMo there is no one that can stand toe to toe with fedor

Chuck walks around at 225 or more, as does Crocop who fights heavyweight. No reason Chuck couldn't fight Fedor. Hell Lindland fights 185 and he fought Fedor.

TonyL 05-15-2007 12:04 PM

The way fights have been going lately with incredible one punch upsets like Serra and a few others. Anything could happen. I'm done betting on the UFC. Just sit back watch and enjoy. Everyone has a punchers chance.

Brad 05-15-2007 12:10 PM

I'm picking Liddell in this one for the simple reason that he probably wants the win more and also considering the fact that Liddell was injured in his first fight with Rampage. It's bound to be an interesting fight though no matter what happens. Al least it's not going to be another CroCop disaster. No doubt Rampage is a great fighter, but I think that Liddell has the edge over him this time.

sherie 05-15-2007 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 12435939)
It will be unified MMA rules (elbows allowed, no knees on the ground, no suplex on the head, no foot stomps etc no freak shows and no 265 pounds + guys).

The fight will be in a ring and they will still keep putting the fighters in the middle when they are on the ground near the end of the ring.

As far as mega fights happening, if they manage to save pride's reputation in japan (lost TV deal a while ago... and lots of fighters), this could create one mega-huge MMA tournament.

Why thank you kind sir :)

Fresh 05-15-2007 01:30 PM

iceman all the fuckin way

mark wolff 05-15-2007 08:16 PM

The Iceman was not the striker he is today, when he lost to Jackson. I say Chuck will put him on ice in the second round


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