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ry0t 04-25-2007 11:45 AM

new single girl site model, your opinion needed (pics)
 
Hello,
This girl wants to start a single girl site. I had no idea but come to find out she has two tattoos. One on her the back of her shoulder and one on her stomach that you can see. Before this I had offered her $15,000 to start and 50% of the profit monthly as long as the site is updated. I fear she won't be interested if I offer her any lower money to start. She probably doesn't understand how much money per month this could be for her so she may be hesitant to start without up front payment. What is your opinion on all of this?

http://www.corehosting.com/1.jpg
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http://www.corehosting.com/5.jpg

ry0t 04-25-2007 11:46 AM

http://www.corehosting.com/2.jpg
http://www.corehosting.com/3.jpg
http://www.corehosting.com/6.jpg

ry0t 04-25-2007 11:47 AM

http://www.corehosting.com/8.jpg
http://www.corehosting.com/15.jpg

donkevlar 04-25-2007 11:49 AM

My opinion is that I just came on my keyboard

BiggleJones 04-25-2007 11:50 AM

:error 15K PLUS 50%??? Why one Earth would you give away that much? :error

bobby666 04-25-2007 11:52 AM

fuck her hard when handcuffed
and don't open the cuffs before you have finished 100 fotosets

SxDx 04-25-2007 11:52 AM

nice looking girl, but tell her to stay away from the green/blue hair. not good

Shoehorn! 04-25-2007 11:53 AM

Is she only doing nonnude?

ry0t 04-25-2007 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggleJones (Post 12310934)
:error 15K PLUS 50%??? Why one Earth would you give away that much? :error

I know people will think I am strange for this. I am a nice person and I definitely want any girl I work with to make the most money possible. I am willing to give up a lot of money in order to make this work. My point is I definitely want the girl to make a lot of money from this.

Shoehorn! 04-25-2007 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggleJones (Post 12310934)
:error 15K PLUS 50%??? Why one Earth would you give away that much? :error

I was thinking the same thing.

pornguy 04-25-2007 11:54 AM

Unless she is going to fuck a train, then you over shot the $$ offer by about 14,995

ry0t 04-25-2007 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 12310947)
Is she only doing nonnude?


No she will do a nude site with masturbation and toys I believe.

ADL Josh 04-25-2007 11:59 AM

she's hot:thumbsup

ry0t 04-25-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 12310952)
Unless she is going to fuck a train, then you over shot the $$ offer by about 14,995

You do not include a reason and since I do not know you I would like to understand why you are saying that. Without you being mean please because I am simply asking you.

The reason for me asking is also because these sites have potential to make a lot of money and I thought if it does make 40k over X amount of months I am willing to give up 15k to start and a percent of the profit. Is that so wrong? I am not trying to be greedy by taking all of the money.

sicone 04-25-2007 12:00 PM

She looks like 85% of the strippers in the local nudie bar

lagwagon 04-25-2007 12:02 PM

lets get some close up face shots in here of her :thumbsup

Zebra 04-25-2007 12:02 PM

$15k and 50%? Ouch...

AaronM 04-25-2007 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggleJones (Post 12310934)
:error 15K PLUS 50%??? Why one Earth would you give away that much? :error


Because he doesn't know any better.

Fap 04-25-2007 12:06 PM

Nice body, wish i could say the same for her face..

BAKO 04-25-2007 12:06 PM

Super hot

xdcdave 04-25-2007 12:08 PM

She looks really familar.. nice looking girl but you're offering her an insane deal that you'll end up regreting after Im sure.

candyflip 04-25-2007 12:13 PM

Do you have ads on Craigslist? I saw someone with some posts on there and they were offering the same $15k upfront plus 50%. I thought that was crazy...you're ruining it for the rest of us. :1orglaugh

starpimps 04-25-2007 12:13 PM

i agree with everyone above 15k + 50% is alot
how about 15k + 50% (for 1 year) and after that like 25% or something

ry0t 04-25-2007 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagwagon (Post 12311004)
lets get some close up face shots in here of her :thumbsup

Here you go. The quality of these pictures is not good it is all I have. If you or anyone could please give me any opinions on this matter if you have time in the future I would appreciate that.

http://www.corehosting.com/16.jpg


http://www.corehosting.com/17.jpg


http://www.corehosting.com/18.jpg

Pacino 04-25-2007 12:17 PM

She is cute but what will set her apart from the hundreds of solo girl sites out there? You should really think about it before you start putting up this kind of money upfront. The solo girl market is a tough nut to crack. Money can be made in the solo girl market but I would never pay one of my models this kind of money upfront. Like I said she is cute but nothing special imho. Good luck either way.

candyflip 04-25-2007 12:19 PM

Here's the url of the company posting on craigslist.

http://www.defiantincorporated.com/index.html

ry0t 04-25-2007 12:19 PM

Do these types of sites not make a lot and that is why you guys are saying that? Is this type of discussion not something that anyone wants to talk about because its a close knit community and no one wants to ruin it? I can understand all these things. Although I see stable and reliable single girl sites that seems to do well and I would like to make sure the girl is happy.

Shoehorn! 04-25-2007 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ry0t (Post 12311136)
Do these types of sites not make a lot and that is why you guys are saying that? Is this type of discussion not something that anyone wants to talk about because its a close knit community and no one wants to ruin it? I can understand all these things. Although I see stable and reliable single girl sites that seems to do well and I would like to make sure the girl is happy.

I think you're not taking a lot of things into consideration, for example you're going to have hosting costs, affiliate payouts, CCBill alone will take up to 16% off the top for processing, design, templates, the money it costs to produce more content, etc. I am not sure what kind of contract you have in place with her, but I am sure if you say "I'll pay you 50%" in the contract, and then later you tell her "That was after expenses" she will think you're trying to fuck her over and get pissed and quit, or take you to court and try to get 50% off the top if shes smart, or both.

And you're not even sure what shes willing to do?

There are a lot of ways to keep your models happy without paying them INSANE amounts of money. And $15k upfront and 50% is totally stupid. Whos to say you don't pay her $15k and she shoots a dozen sets then skips town?

tony286 04-25-2007 12:35 PM

she is cute but your offering way too much up front and considering its going to take you forever to make that back especially when your giving her 50%.Remember this is a business,treat as such.

SinisterStudios 04-25-2007 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ry0t (Post 12310909)
Hello,
This girl wants to start a single girl site. I had no idea but come to find out she has two tattoos. One on her the back of her shoulder and one on her stomach that you can see. Before this I had offered her $15,000 to start and 50% of the profit monthly as long as the site is updated. I fear she won't be interested if I offer her any lower money to start. She probably doesn't understand how much money per month this could be for her so she may be hesitant to start without up front payment. What is your opinion on all of this?

Thats steep, really steep. You might want to rethink for payment structure, by the time your done paying her and all your expenses. you might be in the hole.

She is cute, but cute isnt enough for a solo girl site. If she doesnt have the personality to go with the cuteness, you might end up losing alot of money.

NaughtyRob 04-25-2007 12:42 PM

15k to start. Are you fucking nuts???

Star 69 04-25-2007 12:56 PM

She is not cute enoughf to start a solo girl website!

Star 69 04-25-2007 12:58 PM

She is not cute enoughf to start a solo girl website!

Shoehorn! 04-25-2007 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star 69 (Post 12311406)
She is not cute enoughf to start a solo girl website!

I disagree.

fbrtopic 04-25-2007 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SxDx (Post 12310946)
nice looking girl, but tell her to stay away from the green/blue hair. not good

I think you're crazy, I love that.

Hazlewood 04-25-2007 01:07 PM

how old is she?

TGVinny 04-25-2007 01:11 PM

I think she's cute... but as it's been said multiple times, what's going to set her apart from the rest of the girls?!?! From the pictures posted her eyes are kinda dead and don't give off that "spark"

Jimmy Rock 04-25-2007 01:18 PM

SHe's hot and should do well..if i where you i would stay away from offering the 15k up front. most likely she'll take that money and run..what i would recomened is offer her a monthly salary to shoot, something like 2-3k a month and then when site starts making money give her percentage instead of salary, this will keep her hungry for more and keep her copmming back for more shoots..

Kevin Marx 04-25-2007 01:18 PM

OMG.... waaaaayyyyyyyyy to much money.... the 50% I can understand with a caveat that the performs continually.

I have this arrangement with one of my girls. The first time she doesn't fulfill obligations for 2 weeks or more, she loses her income and I have the right to continue on without her. Basically, if she bails, we still make the money without her.

It is business... you are willing to invest 15K in a girl you don't know if it will go or not? Make her recognize its a business. Either that, or commit her to 15K for one month of shooting daily... payable weekly after she does what she is supposed to (I heard Lightspeed does this sometimes... pounds out content with a girl not knowing if she will work longer than a week or two).

Good luck.... your offer seems nuts... sounds like most agree in here.

ry0t 04-25-2007 01:24 PM

A lot of good things have been said already and thank you for that. I want to briefly explain I am not offering her that money upfront without anything. I am offering it to her once the initial content is done. I havent figured out the terms of payment with that situation yet. I love star pimps idea of offering it in installments over a set number of months.
I do understand what some have said there is not a whole lot that may set her apart from the rest of the single girl sites. I wouldnt of come on here unless I thought I had something. She reminded me of a similar beautiful girl who has a single girl site. She is not as thin as in the green/blonde hair picture now she has some weight and a bigger butt. That may be another reason she is not ready for a single girl site. Overall I thought she did have some spark but I can understand what a lot of you are saying.

ry0t 04-25-2007 01:32 PM

She is 18 and at this point I will take all of your advice and go back to her and give her a payment structure. I never planned to give 15k up front but I do apologize because I did not explain myself well enough for you to understand what I mean. Thank you for giving me advice to everyone who had posted I understand more about it now. I was thinking of doing what Kevin said and offering a weekly salary until the content is done and so is the up front payment. Then keeping it on a monthly percent if she continues to maintain the site.
I dont mean to make this conversation all about the payment structure but that is one thing I did not know how to present to her and now I feel it has been cleared up because of your advice.

Tanya_AWP 04-25-2007 01:45 PM

she's very hot!!!!

shekinah 04-25-2007 01:58 PM

She'd sell.. nice catch!:thumbsup

Just_Dave 04-25-2007 02:00 PM

she is real nice

ninavain 04-25-2007 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ry0t (Post 12310974)
No she will do a nude site with masturbation and toys I believe.

you are crazy for giving her that much

rowan 04-25-2007 02:14 PM

Rather than a figure of $15k, tell her you'll pay her $200 a set (or whatever) for up to X sets prior to the site launch, then 50% net after that. That way your ass is covered if she flakes after 3 days.

Since she's effectively an equal partner how are you going to decide ownership of the content?

Audrey 04-25-2007 02:20 PM

from those pics i can guess she has bad saggy boobs. You shouldnt even consider this before doing a test-shoot

Goat55 04-25-2007 02:21 PM

She is definitely hot....good luck.

woj 04-25-2007 02:23 PM

not bad, has potential :thumbsup

latinasojourn 04-25-2007 02:30 PM

15k up front is WAY too much for this model IMO.

2K is more like it.


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