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baddog 04-24-2007 03:09 PM

Even Jon Stewart doesn't think Hillary stands a chance.
 
As liberal as he likes to come off at times, even he doesn't thing Hillary stands a chance at winning. I sure hope more Democrats figure this out before it is too late.

websiex 04-24-2007 03:15 PM

John Kerry, whom I see as a very weak presidential candidate, only lost by 2% to George Bush, whom I see as a very strong presidential candidate. Bush has a very strong base, all the way from pre-2000... Kerry came and lost only by 2% after being completely unknown and attacked from every side.

This is a clean slate election, people know who Hillary is, most won't know the Republican candidate, so if he doesn't have a good base like Bush does, he is toast. Time will tell.

baddog 04-24-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by websiex (Post 12306222)
John Kerry, whom I see as a very weak presidential candidate, only lost by 2% to George Bush, whom I see as a very strong presidential candidate. Bush has a very strong base, all the way from pre-2000... Kerry came and lost only by 2% after being completely unknown and attacked from every side.

This is a clean slate election, people know who Hillary is, most won't know the Republican candidate, so if he doesn't have a good base like Bush does, he is toast. Time will tell.

A perfect example of why I hope Democrats wise up.

websiex 04-24-2007 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12306235)
A perfect example of why I hope Democrats wise up.

Hillary isn't that bad of a candidate. I mean, I can't see McKaine or Gullani defeating her... Romney/Hillary would be close, but Romney also has weaknesses.

Hillary's main weakness is that she is a female; it may not be time for the US to elect a female. Other than that, there will be attacks against her, but nothing she can't deal with in the long run.

Anyway, I can't think of anyone in the Democratic side with a better chance of winning...

baddog 04-24-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by websiex (Post 12306284)
Anyway, I can't think of anyone in the Democratic side with a better chance of winning...

Bad news for the Dems then

kane 04-24-2007 04:55 PM

The main thing she has going against her is that there is very strong anti-clinton feelings on the far right. Neither Gulliani or McCain can rely on bringing in the hard christian right who are feeling like the republican party has abandon them. Without them winning for a republican will be difficult, but the far right hates the Clintons with a passion and if she ends up being the democrat nominee they may take the "anyone but Clinton" mentality and rally behind the republican nominee. She will have to find a way to overcome that.

She can win, but I don't think she will.

Drake 04-24-2007 04:56 PM

I don't think she will win either.

GatorB 04-24-2007 05:00 PM

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baddog 04-24-2007 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 12306629)
The main thing she has going against her is that there is very strong anti-clinton feelings on the far right.

She also has that lack of a Y chromosome thing going against her.

kane 04-24-2007 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12306658)
She also has that lack of a Y chromosome thing going against her.

that's true. If women alone got out and voted for her she would win, but it has been shown that women often won't vote for other women.

baddog 04-24-2007 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 12307019)
that's true. If women alone got out and voted for her she would win, but it has been shown that women often won't vote for other women.

Most of the time they won't. I saw a commercial for Mencia's show that looks like he discovered the same thing.


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