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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942

    #1

    I am getting pissed off.

    With all the wankers and con men telling everyone how easy it is for a newbie to make money in the Adult Net.

    It's not, it's hard work and requires skills, knowledge and talent.

    This is 2007 and not 1997. Please stop trying to con newbies into submiiting a few galleries for you or trying to kid people you make lots of money in a few months.

    Bottome line is I started a paysite with $20,000 worth of content, a few thousand for extra hosting and design and I could of bought the CMS for under $5,000. total $30,000

    Most people throw it back in my face that I had $20,000 worth of content.

    As if the price of a family hatch back is a lot of money for starting a business. That tells you more about the poster and how much money they have than anything else.

    It's not impossible, just hard work that requires skills and talent.



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  • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
    North Coast Pimp
    • Dec 2005
    • 9395

    #2
    lol... Magic join links stop working?


    I think you should be banned for calling people can-men with out proof

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    • p1mpdogg
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Nov 2002
      • 16714

      #3
      coming from someone who has ran a couple crappy paysites for what under 1 1/2 years?

      paul you are a fucking troll and a loser. chooting content wasnt working for you, so you felt running a program would work?

      sad and stupid choice.

      you are just wasting your time ol chap.

      you are just mad that there is competition out there that actually knows the game better than you and is learning the tricks of the trade better han you.

      jealousy is a bitch you old fool.
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      • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
        North Coast Pimp
        • Dec 2005
        • 9395

        #4
        Originally posted by p1mpdogg
        coming from someone who has ran a couple crappy paysites for what under 1 1/2 years?

        paul you are a fucking troll and a loser. chooting content wasnt working for you, so you felt running a program would work?

        sad and stupid choice.

        you are just wasting your time ol chap.

        you are just mad that there is competition out there that actually knows the game better than you and is learning the tricks of the trade better han you.

        jealousy is a bitch you old fool.
        Tell him how you really feel

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        • Jakke PNG
          ex-TeenGodFather
          • Nov 2001
          • 20306

          #5
          Originally posted by Jon Clark
          lol... Magic join links stop working?


          I think you should be banned for calling people can-men with out proof
          Who did he call a con-man?
          I think you should be banned for being a dumbass.
          ..and I'm off.

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          • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
            North Coast Pimp
            • Dec 2005
            • 9395

            #6
            Originally posted by TeenGodFather
            Who did he call a con-man?
            I think you should be banned for being a dumbass.
            Did you even read his post?


            He called anyone who says it is not real hard to make money in this biz one..



            And for the record, I was joking

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            • gangbangjoe
              Ronin
              • May 2004
              • 17693

              #7
              this thread makes me hungry

              don't ask me why

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              • scottybuzz
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • May 2006
                • 14799

                #8
                i like this thread.
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                • yoshine
                  Registered User
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 98

                  #9
                  wow you guys are so harsh on the old man!

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                  • scottybuzz
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • May 2006
                    • 14799

                    #10
                    haha its rubbish, theres no way a newb needs 20k to sstart up a business. i started with zilch. i got free hosting from my sponser. ok ok i spent $10 on a domain but that was it.
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                    • Michaelious
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6720

                      #11
                      Seems a fair point, no wonder you ain't happy mate

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                      • Steve Awesome
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1575

                        #12
                        This thread makes me zone out and think about things like wanting to see that Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie that came out this weekend.

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                        • Grapesoda
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 46238

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                          With all the wankers and con men telling everyone how easy it is for a newbie to make money in the Adult Net.

                          It's not, it's hard work and requires skills, knowledge and talent.

                          This is 2007 and not 1997. Please stop trying to con newbies into submiiting a few galleries for you or trying to kid people you make lots of money in a few months.

                          Bottome line is I started a paysite with $20,000 worth of content, a few thousand for extra hosting and design and I could of bought the CMS for under $5,000. total $30,000

                          Most people throw it back in my face that I had $20,000 worth of content.

                          As if the price of a family hatch back is a lot of money for starting a business. That tells you more about the poster and how much money they have than anything else.

                          It's not impossible, just hard work that requires skills and talent.
                          20K in content is nothing and you know it . . to open a site with sex is gonna go for about $100K+ for exclusive content . . these days exclusive is turning out to be the way to go . . and the site are shooting 'in-house' . . they can hire some boob for about 35k per year. .

                          surfers are getting educated . . hopefully countries like china and india will start buying and be okay with content that has passed all over the net about 1,000 x's . .

                          not to sure the western world will continue with it. the 'net' is changing and we all know that . . . peer to peer networks are eating into the profits too, just like the music world . . .

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                          • candyflip
                            Carpe Visio
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 43069

                            #14
                            Charly is still a douche.


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                            • polish_aristocrat
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 40377

                              #15
                              Originally posted by scottybuzz
                              haha its rubbish, theres no way a newb needs 20k to sstart up a business. i started with zilch. i got free hosting from my sponser. ok ok i spent $10 on a domain but that was it.
                              no offence, but you're earning around $300 per month and that's hardly an achievement
                              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                              • BVF
                                Black Vagina Finder
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 13975

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                With all the wankers and con men telling everyone how easy it is for a newbie to make money in the Adult Net.

                                It's not, it's hard work and requires skills, knowledge and talent.

                                This is 2007 and not 1997. Please stop trying to con newbies into submiiting a few galleries for you or trying to kid people you make lots of money in a few months.

                                Bottome line is I started a paysite with $20,000 worth of content, a few thousand for extra hosting and design and I could of bought the CMS for under $5,000. total $30,000

                                Most people throw it back in my face that I had $20,000 worth of content.

                                As if the price of a family hatch back is a lot of money for starting a business. That tells you more about the poster and how much money they have than anything else.

                                It's not impossible, just hard work that requires skills and talent.
                                Who fucking cares? How is a newb submitting galleries taking money out of YOUR pocket? If they were submitting YOUR galleries, you'd be kissing his ass...

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                                • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                  MOBILE PORN: IMOBILEPORN
                                  • Jan 2004
                                  • 16502

                                  #17
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                                  • Paul Markham
                                    Too old to care
                                    • Jun 2001
                                    • 52942

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                    coming from someone who has ran a couple crappy paysites for what under 1 1/2 years?

                                    paul you are a fucking troll and a loser. chooting content wasnt working for you, so you felt running a program would work?

                                    sad and stupid choice.

                                    you are just wasting your time ol chap.

                                    you are just mad that there is competition out there that actually knows the game better than you and is learning the tricks of the trade better han you.

                                    jealousy is a bitch you old fool.
                                    Actually it was a post made by one of your affiliate support people that made me think of it.

                                    You pay $40 a sign up and all the newbie had to do was take your galleries and submit them. Whooping fucking hell.

                                    Here's a deal for you.

                                    I can employ people for just under $30 a day, they will speak English, be Internet and computer literate and most will be University students looking for part time work to support them. They are in general very good workers and the alternative is working in a store stacking shelves or fast food place.

                                    They will submit all day long or do any other tasks you decide, I will monitor them on site and you can monitor them from your office. The confirmation emails can go to you. I or you can host the galleries.

                                    Any partner accounts that need applying for I will do it, any money needed for the PAs you will pay.

                                    The traffic will be 100% yours.

                                    I will pay the worker here, you will pay me $60 a day for every worker I have driving traffic for you.

                                    OK you may not have the balls to go for it. But when I look at all the shooters here, the webcams and the offices opening here I think to myself why is no one opening an office of in house affiliates?

                                    Because it's cheaper to pay them $40 joins a day. In fact if your sites were so good I don't need you, I could do it without you. Problem is I know how well submitting galleries works and I know why it's mostly out of house as far as newbies are concerned.



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                                    • Ace_luffy
                                      www.creationcrew.com
                                      • Feb 2005
                                      • 12166

                                      #19
                                      that's really alarming ... and paul right. it's not 1997...


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                                      • candyflip
                                        Carpe Visio
                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 43069

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                        Problem is I know how well submitting galleries works and I know why it's mostly out of house as far as newbies are concerned.
                                        You only know how it works for you. I have always done quite well with galleries, even now paying a decent amount each month for passes and paid spots.

                                        Just because it hasn't worked for you doesn't mean that it doesn't work.

                                        Spend you some brain.
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                                        • scottybuzz
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • May 2006
                                          • 14799

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                          no offence, but you're earning around $300 per month and that's hardly an achievement
                                          listen dont get started, i have left you wwell alone. i earn WAY more than $300 a month.
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                                          • Paul Markham
                                            Too old to care
                                            • Jun 2001
                                            • 52942

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Wanton
                                            20K in content is nothing and you know it . . to open a site with sex is gonna go for about $100K+ for exclusive content . . these days exclusive is turning out to be the way to go . . and the site are shooting 'in-house' . . they can hire some boob for about 35k per year. .

                                            surfers are getting educated . . hopefully countries like china and india will start buying and be okay with content that has passed all over the net about 1,000 x's . .

                                            not to sure the western world will continue with it. the 'net' is changing and we all know that . . . peer to peer networks are eating into the profits too, just like the music world . . .
                                            Wanton my paysite proves it does not need to be exclusive. The number of times I would sell a set to saturate it would make Eva and I very rich.

                                            They may be able to hire a noob for $35,000 but not me. You get what you pay for in this business. And for the money I was offered for exclusive I chose to go my route and earn more money, you chose to go your route.

                                            I can get a noob for a lot less than $35,000 and shoot under my guidance we could be churning out exclusive 5 days a week and beat anything a noob on $3,000 a month in the US will churn out. Except for language.

                                            Do you know that's not such a bad idea. Would pay a dam site more than driving traffic and as you point out a lot easier. Thanks for the idea.

                                            I can get a kid in the studio, few weeks training and start her shooting for clients from $1,000 a day including the models money. I have access to 100 models, 30 locations in the studio, no end of other locations. I pay the model $500, the shooter is on $50 a day. I make $450 or more for doing very little.

                                            I make good money sitting on my backside. Do you want to compete with a shooter trained by me turning out solo girl work for $200 a scene?

                                            Hey pimple puppy, you won't go for the affiliate deal, but how about a shooter shooting solo girl sets and videos for $200 a scene? You do not get me for that, I'm too slow and too old to speed up. Plus I shoot solo girl for $1,000 a scene minimum. But a noob kid trained by me?



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                                            • martinsc
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jun 2005
                                              • 27047

                                              #23
                                              there is no money in porn... (but lots of tits and asses )
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                                              • polish_aristocrat
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 40377

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                listen dont get started, i have left you wwell alone. i earn WAY more than $300 a month.
                                                well well well

                                                I remember you stating you're making like $500 per month... and since then I saw some posts from you saying the biz is getting worse

                                                and no, I don't really care either way
                                                I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                • polish_aristocrat
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 40377

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by candyflip
                                                  You only know how it works for you. I have always done quite well with galleries, even now paying a decent amount each month for passes and paid spots.

                                                  Just because it hasn't worked for you doesn't mean that it doesn't work.
                                                  I failed at gallery submitting already 3 years ago

                                                  I know I wouldn't be able to reach 1 sale per day even if my life depended on it

                                                  completely not my thing

                                                  to everyone making a good living from submitting, especially in 2007
                                                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                    Too old to care
                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                    • 52942

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by candyflip
                                                    You only know how it works for you. I have always done quite well with galleries, even now paying a decent amount each month for passes and paid spots.

                                                    Just because it hasn't worked for you doesn't mean that it doesn't work.
                                                    You are the exception not the rule and good for you. Are you a sponsor?

                                                    Think like a business man for a minute please.

                                                    Do you think all the sponsors would be offering affiliates so much money if they could do it cheaper in house?

                                                    Now feed in the problems with 2257, open an office in EU, in the new Eastern Sector it's cheap. Make it a main office and hey presto 2257 goes out the US. Fill it with guys on $30 a day driving traffic 8 hours a day. Traffic the sponsors owns 100%. Anything over 2 sign up a day and it's getting close to profit margins if not into profit.

                                                    How many sponsors can you name with in house affiliates on any scale?

                                                    Business practices evolve because they are the most profitable. Don't come up with you have to be in the US to drive traffic either, the number of non US guys will laugh out loud.



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                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                      Too old to care
                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 52942

                                                      #27
                                                      Let's see how many take me up on the affiliate deal and how many take me up on the shooter deal.

                                                      It will prove me right or wrong.

                                                      But you can bet there will be a lot of guys wiggling out from being honest.

                                                      Trey, do we have a deal?



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                                                      • free4porn
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jun 2005
                                                        • 4654

                                                        #28
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                                                        • scottybuzz
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • May 2006
                                                          • 14799

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                          well well well

                                                          I remember you stating you're making like $500 per month... and since then I saw some posts from you saying the biz is getting worse

                                                          and no, I don't really care either way
                                                          i really cant remember that as i have never earnt less than 500 a month, even when i started
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                                                          • chaze
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                            • 9774

                                                            #30
                                                            I have seen the most untalented people make it huge lol really i think timing, hard work are the huge factors too. By working hard you will put yourself more likely in the right place when timing comes around.
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                                                            • baddog
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 107089

                                                              #31
                                                              and you are getting pissed off why? Are they taking money out of your pocket?

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                                                              • VicD
                                                                ICQ: 304-611-162
                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                • 13245

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                coming from someone who has ran a couple crappy paysites for what under 1 1/2 years?

                                                                paul you are a fucking troll and a loser. chooting content wasnt working for you, so you felt running a program would work?

                                                                sad and stupid choice.

                                                                you are just wasting your time ol chap.

                                                                you are just mad that there is competition out there that actually knows the game better than you and is learning the tricks of the trade better han you.

                                                                jealousy is a bitch you old fool.

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                                                                • candyflip
                                                                  Carpe Visio
                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                  • 43069

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                  You are the exception not the rule and good for you. Are you a sponsor?

                                                                  Think like a business man for a minute please.

                                                                  Do you think all the sponsors would be offering affiliates so much money if they could do it cheaper in house?

                                                                  Now feed in the problems with 2257, open an office in EU, in the new Eastern Sector it's cheap. Make it a main office and hey presto 2257 goes out the US. Fill it with guys on $30 a day driving traffic 8 hours a day. Traffic the sponsors owns 100%. Anything over 2 sign up a day and it's getting close to profit margins if not into profit.

                                                                  How many sponsors can you name with in house affiliates on any scale?

                                                                  Business practices evolve because they are the most profitable. Don't come up with you have to be in the US to drive traffic either, the number of non US guys will laugh out loud.
                                                                  Only recently did I purchase the program in my sig. Before that, I spent most of my time submitting galleries. There are plenty of people on this board who make VERY GOOD money submitting galleries as affiliates. You're not going to get anywhere just submitting these days. You MUST have a host of partner accounts. You MUST pay for submit passes. You MUST pay for guaranteed placements.

                                                                  ANYONE can do this granted the have the funds to get started...just like any business. Like scottybuzz, it's also VERY possible to do all this with nothing, just know that you're not going to be making much more than "beer money".

                                                                  It takes money to make money.

                                                                  Spend you some brain.
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                                                                  • candyflip
                                                                    Carpe Visio
                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                    • 43069

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I'd guess that most of the sponsor programs rely on IN HOUSE traffic over affiliate traffic. Affiliate traffic is like icing on an already tasty cake.

                                                                    Arguing, debating or whatever you want to call it with you is pointless...because you just don't understand this game at all. Sorry but with each thread you post, you make youself look even more foolish.

                                                                    No one will take you up on your offer because it's not worth dealing with someone who thinks they know everything, when in fact they know nothing at all.

                                                                    Spend you some brain.
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                                                                    • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                      North Coast Pimp
                                                                      • Dec 2005
                                                                      • 9395

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                      Sorry but with each thread you post, you make youself look even more foolish..

                                                                      And every troll post you make in my threads just make yourself look foolish

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                                                                      • Shoehorn!
                                                                        Die With Your Boots On
                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 22872

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Ace_luffy
                                                                        that's really alarming ... and paul right. it's not 1997...

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                                                                        • Damian_Maxcash
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 12745

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Paul would do better if he wasn't so fucking rude.

                                                                          He hits me up with emails every fucking day selling his shit - I decide to put my hand in pocket and buy some and I ask a question........ never got an answer.

                                                                          It was just a crappy $300 batch from BB..... but I don't expect that.

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                                                                          • candyflip
                                                                            Carpe Visio
                                                                            • Jul 2002
                                                                            • 43069

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Jon Clark
                                                                            And every troll post you make in my threads just make yourself look foolish
                                                                            Jon, I couldn't care less what you or any of your other nicks or your probation officer think of me.

                                                                            Spend you some brain.
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                                                                            • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                              North Coast Pimp
                                                                              • Dec 2005
                                                                              • 9395

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                              Jon, I couldn't care less what you or any of your other nicks or your probation officer think of me.
                                                                              There you go again making false claims with no proof



                                                                              btw, You shouldn't care what i think of you, what is important is what you think of yourself....

                                                                              Which isn't much or else you wouldn't troll me like you do

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                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                • 107089

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                                I'd guess that most of the sponsor programs rely on IN HOUSE traffic over affiliate traffic. Affiliate traffic is like icing on an already tasty cake.
                                                                                You would be surprised. I talk to many program owners that for some reason refuse to compete with their affiliates.

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                                                                                • Sausage
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 3012

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  You guys are just jealous of Paul's magic join links and super surfer emails
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                                                                                  • GAMEFINEST
                                                                                    Make STACK$
                                                                                    • Nov 2006
                                                                                    • 14478

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    he has the magic touch..
                                                                                    Compound interest.

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                                                                                    • WiredGuy
                                                                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 34512

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I started this business with a domain and $100, no joke.
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                                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                                        • 52942

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                                                        i really cant remember that as i have never earnt less than 500 a month, even when i started
                                                                                        There you go, not less then $500 a month is what an affiliate boasts about.

                                                                                        I think a more honest approach to newbies would be better.

                                                                                        Tell them that with some hard work and application they can get to $500 a month. That is why most sponsors avoid in house traffic generation. It's cheaper to have guys like you on $500 a month. An in house guy would cost more.

                                                                                        Still don't see Trey offering me a deal.



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                                                                                        • Paul Markham
                                                                                          Too old to care
                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 52942

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                                          I'd guess that most of the sponsor programs rely on IN HOUSE traffic over affiliate traffic. Affiliate traffic is like icing on an already tasty cake.

                                                                                          Arguing, debating or whatever you want to call it with you is pointless...because you just don't understand this game at all. Sorry but with each thread you post, you make youself look even more foolish.

                                                                                          No one will take you up on your offer because it's not worth dealing with someone who thinks they know everything, when in fact they know nothing at all.
                                                                                          If I know so little can you offer an explanation why I've lasted so long and make so much money?

                                                                                          Or is it that you don't need to know a lot ot make money in this business?



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                                                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                                                            Too old to care
                                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                                            • 52942

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by damian2001
                                                                                            Paul would do better if he wasn't so fucking rude.

                                                                                            He hits me up with emails every fucking day selling his shit - I decide to put my hand in pocket and buy some and I ask a question........ never got an answer.

                                                                                            It was just a crappy $300 batch from BB..... but I don't expect that.
                                                                                            I send out one Newsletter a week. I'm usually very good at answering questions on the content store, assuming it gets through.

                                                                                            Hit me up again and no URL in the text, in fact add me before you send.

                                                                                            Will try to get hold of you.



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                                                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                                                              Too old to care
                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                              • 52942

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by damian2001
                                                                                              Paul would do better if he wasn't so fucking rude.

                                                                                              He hits me up with emails every fucking day selling his shit - I decide to put my hand in pocket and buy some and I ask a question........ never got an answer.

                                                                                              It was just a crappy $300 batch from BB..... but I don't expect that.
                                                                                              Just found your record on our DB. Checks with your ICQ, name and nick name. Don't see a purchase for $300.

                                                                                              In fact all I see is $38 back in 2005.

                                                                                              Thanks for being honest.



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                                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                • 107089

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                Just found your record on our DB. Checks with your ICQ, name and nick name. Don't see a purchase for $300.

                                                                                                In fact all I see is $38 back in 2005.

                                                                                                Thanks for being honest.
                                                                                                I could be wrong, but I got the impression he was going to spend $300 but changed his mind because of your attitude.

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                                                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                  • 52942

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                  You would be surprised. I talk to many program owners that for some reason refuse to compete with their affiliates.
                                                                                                  Do you think they do it because the in house are cheaper and a better alternative than outside affiliates, or the other way around?

                                                                                                  Maybe they run the big expensive programs for affiliates because they like giving money away, or maybe it's because as an affiliate has already posted $500 a month is a figure to tell everyone?

                                                                                                  By telling affiliates it's a tough game, needs to be worked and studied hard and needs time to build. Plus in the end you will always be a cheaper alternative than opening up your own own in house generation of traffic. And you need to have money to invest. You're being more honest.

                                                                                                  Then only those prepared to put in the sweat and labour will take it on. It's this constant painting a picture that it's easier than it is, that pisses me off. Like a lot of snake oil salesmen selling a wonder drug.



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                                                                                                  • SteveLightspeed
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                    • 7940

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Paul, you are missing the best quality of affiliates over employees. Employees perform the tasks you tell them to do. Affiliates come up with their own ideas!

                                                                                                    Steve Lightspeed
                                                                                                    Abra-cadabra!

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