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Goodings Media 04-20-2007 12:30 AM

2257 for UK webmasters?
 
Hiya,

im a UK webmaster and my site, www.bestbabevideos.com is hosted on a virtual hosting package on a server located in the UK.

I've seen a lot of mention of the 2257 US regulations. Which of this applies to me? As my site primarily contains links to material, how is this affected?

I do however host a couple of images on my own server, e.g. explicit banners, screen captures of porn sites etc.

Could somone please summarise for me? I did a search on the forum and found an overflood, so would be cool if someone could just paraphrase for me or point me in the right direction.

Kind Regards

Radiate 04-20-2007 08:49 AM

You are a UK citizen
Your content is on a server in the UK

2257 means fuck all to you, it's a US law

Chef86 04-21-2007 11:13 AM

Good answer Radiate

Ketchup 04-21-2007 01:11 PM

Just curious What if he decides to travel to usa one day? Does that still matter if his sites are not 2257 compliant?

okdesign 04-22-2007 05:41 AM

yes, it's US law.

Radiate 04-22-2007 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketchup (Post 12291030)
Just curious What if he decides to travel to usa one day? Does that still matter if his sites are not 2257 compliant?

Still has nothing to do with him, he's a UK citizen running his business from the UK.

chris01282 04-22-2007 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radiate (Post 12285644)
You are a UK citizen
Your content is on a server in the UK

2257 means fuck all to you, it's a US law

what he said :thumbsup

and as you are outside the US, you are not breaking any US laws

wehateporn 04-22-2007 05:43 PM

What about if his site was hosted in the US?

directfiesta 04-22-2007 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketchup (Post 12291030)
Just curious What if he decides to travel to usa one day? Does that still matter if his sites are not 2257 compliant?

nope....

Does it matters if an 18 years old Canadian, that drank a beer in a bar, goes to the USA ....

Nope.

Steve Awesome 04-22-2007 08:44 PM

Lucky bastard!

Goodings Media 04-24-2007 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radiate (Post 12285644)
You are a UK citizen
Your content is on a server in the UK

2257 means fuck all to you, it's a US law

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

Cheers guys, sorry if it was an abvious question, just i wasn't quite sure whether the new regs applied to ALL the internet or not.

Thanks :)

Radiate 04-24-2007 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12303303)
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

Cheers guys, sorry if it was an abvious question, just i wasn't quite sure whether the new regs applied to ALL the internet or not.

Thanks :)

np, where abouts in the UK are you?

Goodings Media 04-25-2007 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radiate (Post 12303891)
np, where abouts in the UK are you?

Currently at Kent, Canterbury :) But also in Sheffield sometimes

Yourself?

Radiate 04-26-2007 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12309490)
Currently at Kent, Canterbury :) But also in Sheffield sometimes

Yourself?

Keepin it real in Surrey (Staines area to be exact).

I've got mate at Uni in Kent, nice place there.

pinkz 04-28-2007 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radiate (Post 12314847)
Keepin it real in Surrey (Staines area to be exact).

I've got mate at Uni in Kent, nice place there.


sunbury off thames here neighbour, fancy a smoke?


So what happens if im a uk webmaster and my sites are hosted on US servers?

am i fucked up by 2257 still?

Goodings Media 04-28-2007 08:19 AM

I believe so.

Im moving to a new host and its gonna be a US server, to I think I'l have to include all the shit on 2257 in my sites.

I have no idea what I actually have to do/say though....

The Duck 04-28-2007 08:32 AM

You do not need it, as far as I am concerned.

pinkz 04-28-2007 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandah (Post 12327003)
You do not need it, as far as I am concerned.

"as far as i am concerned" this is no defence when you are infront of a judge on a charge of soliciting a minor for profit and other related obsenity laws

Radiate 04-28-2007 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkz (Post 12326803)
sunbury off thames here neighbour, fancy a smoke?


So what happens if im a uk webmaster and my sites are hosted on US servers?

am i fucked up by 2257 still?

yeah if it's on a US server than I believe you still have to include the 2257 information

Sunbury eh? You got myspace profile?

pinkz 04-28-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radiate (Post 12327028)
Sunbury eh? You got myspace profile?

nah fraid not. you wanna know about me ask away m8

mikewest 04-29-2007 01:16 PM

Well, technically, if you make the material available to a US citizen (which you do, I assume) you are required by the US govt to comply with the law. I wouldn't lose one bit of sleep over it, however.

Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on television.

directfiesta 04-29-2007 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikewest (Post 12331289)
Well, technically, if you make the material available to a US citizen (which you do, I assume) you are required by the US govt to comply with the law.

that is bs .... A foreign gov cannot force on and enforce a local law on other countries ... I understand they would like to, but doesn't fly.

30ceci 04-30-2007 02:27 AM

So is mikewest right about this?

scottybuzz 05-13-2007 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 12296081)
nope....

Does it matters if an 18 years old Canadian, that drank a beer in a bar, goes to the USA ....

Nope.

ok sorry to bump an old thread,
but could you please explain to me why about 9 months ago that big english gambling operator got arrested when he arrived in the USA? He was english, his business was owned and operated in gibraltor, yet he went to the USA to get a cross flight and got arrested and charged under an american gambling offense.

pinkz 05-14-2007 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 12421339)
ok sorry to bump an old thread,
but could you please explain to me why about 9 months ago that big english gambling operator got arrested when he arrived in the USA? He was english, his business was owned and operated in gibraltor, yet he went to the USA to get a cross flight and got arrested and charged under an american gambling offense.

most likely reason was that he was on american soil

busted on the grounds that he could not be extrodited to the usa so the usa waited for him to turn up there!

scottybuzz 05-16-2007 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkz (Post 12424489)
most likely reason was that he was on american soil

busted on the grounds that he could not be extrodited to the usa so the usa waited for him to turn up there!

so surely why doesnt this apply to those who dont follow 2257 guidelines when having american visitors on their site?

Ketchup 05-16-2007 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkz (Post 12424489)
most likely reason was that he was on american soil

busted on the grounds that he could not be extrodited to the usa so the usa waited for him to turn up there!



This is what I asked above so what if he visits the US one day... directfiesta said no it doesn't matter, ahh yes I was aking that as a canadian lol

Goodings Media 05-16-2007 10:11 PM

I don't know about that gambling dude...

but I looked around the web on this one a lot before opening www.GoodingsMedia.com and UK webmasters will be fine to know we don't need to comply with 2257 (if we did, we could also prosecute all USA citizens who own guns :winkwink:)

And to be on the safe side, all my sites from now on are on either a server based in Kent or one based in Sheffield :) And I've been to visit both to make sure I'm not getting resold server space :)


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