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V_RocKs 04-14-2007 04:34 AM

2257 - Is a nonnude photo from a nude gallery covered?
 
Someone brought up that a nonnude photo from a nude gallery could be construed as part of a nude "body of work" and therefor need 2257 documentation.

However, a lawyer with half a brain could argue that video cases where video stills are used on the packaging are not considered part of the nude work on the video, therefor, a precedence has already been set on the issue.

A nonnude photo inside a gallery that contains other nude photos does not need 2257.

spacedog 04-14-2007 08:35 AM

They say we need 2257 for using a NN thumb if the original image is from a set containing nude.

BoyAlley 04-14-2007 08:49 AM

I asked a couple of attorneys this very question, here's what i was told:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=722569

RawAlex 04-14-2007 09:34 AM

V, the problem right now is that the definition of a "work" is very loose indeed. If a model poses for 20 pictures in a row, are they part of the same work or are they each unique instances?

If those still images are stills from a video, is that somehow different than 20 images taken with a still camera? Afterall, the video would be the underlying work, and therefore the images woudl be subject to 2257 if the model gets naked at any point.

It isn't clear. The only way for a US based webmaster or company to be safe is to require documents for all images that appear on an adult site, IMHO.

Good luck.

xxxdesign-net 04-14-2007 09:38 AM

so 2257 isnt just for hardcore anymore.. ?

Dollarmansteve 04-14-2007 09:38 AM

I was talking at length with someone about 2257 yesterday. I think until there is legal precedent everything is just speculation.

The law is not explicit and we dont know how the authorities will apply the law in court. Until there are some actual cases involving 2257, everything is up in the air.

spacedog 04-14-2007 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve (Post 12252111)
I was talking at length with someone about 2257 yesterday. I think until there is legal precedent everything is just speculation.

The law is not explicit and we dont know how the authorities will apply the law in court. Until there are some actual cases involving 2257, everything is up in the air.

Problem with that is that nobody want's to become the victim of a case that would set the precedent.

Ace_luffy 04-14-2007 07:15 PM

thanks for the info...:)

chadknowslaw 04-14-2007 07:32 PM

I do not believe that 2257 is triggered by a non-nude photo even if it DID come from a gallery that had nude photos.


However -- I do believe that if an image is cropped from a sexually explicit image, and the new image is not sexually explicit, that 2257 still applies.


Oh yeah, I really AM a lawyer~

spasmo 04-14-2007 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadknowslaw (Post 12254313)
I do not believe that 2257 is triggered by a non-nude photo even if it DID come from a gallery that had nude photos.


However -- I do believe that if an image is cropped from a sexually explicit image, and the new image is not sexually explicit, that 2257 still applies.


Oh yeah, I really AM a lawyer~

You just saved me a $350 call to Jeffrey Douglas. Thank you! :thumbsup

Please don't bill me. :winkwink:

enriquem21 06-20-2007 12:02 AM

just a question, in case someone do a capture of a nude video, but the crop isn't really nude, it's illegal?, what will happened?

V_RocKs 06-20-2007 01:38 AM

Nonnude crop of a nude work is 2257 data in need

JP-pornshooter 06-20-2007 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadknowslaw (Post 12254313)
I do not believe that 2257 is triggered by a non-nude photo even if it DID come from a gallery that had nude photos.


However -- I do believe that if an image is cropped from a sexually explicit image, and the new image is not sexually explicit, that 2257 still applies.


Oh yeah, I really AM a lawyer~

what kind of law do you practice?

D 06-20-2007 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 12252110)
so 2257 isnt just for hardcore anymore.. ?

Was it ever for "just hardcore"?

I don't think so.

Nude model = 2257 docs needed.

crockett 06-20-2007 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 12251988)
They say we need 2257 for using a NN thumb if the original image is from a set containing nude.

What gets me is how do they decide what a "set" is?

Say a sponsor has some non nude content up and you only use the NN content.. but at the same time they also have a nude set from the same photo shoot.

The whole law makes no sense at all.

NTSS 06-20-2007 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 12252014)
I asked a couple of attorneys this very question, here's what i was told:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=722569

I thought this was common knowledge? I couldn't see how an unaltered non-nude pic would be subject to 2257..


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