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GatorB 04-08-2007 06:43 PM

Why I don't travel outside the US
 
Just one example of shit that happens all the time to Americans.

http://www.cnn.com/video/player/play...s.captive.kgtv

Webby 04-08-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12223006)
Just one example of shit that happens all the time to Americans.

http://www.cnn.com/video/player/play...s.captive.kgtv

You find something wrong?? At least they are more civilized and not going to execute him.

Kinda familiar with this case - he was convicted based on the evidence in killing a 19 year old girl. He then tried to pay people off to avoid conviction. He is utterly stupid in his conduct and more than likely chance he would have been convicted in the US.

He is also entitled to a an appeal process which "should" be due in the next few months and clear any issues which may have been overlooked at his trial. Even now, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt - but he has a responsibilty to present credible evidence (he's had more than enough time to get his story correct) to appeal court judges.

Overall.. assume this is what you are referring to... some folks consider they can travel to other countries, ignore their laws, fuck with children, commit frauds, behave like idiots and knife people - then whinge and moan when they are arrested/convicted or thrown out of the country. Unfortunately, there are a high percentage of these idiots from North America - in fact, in some countries, - it's the major source of serious crime incidents.

Got no sympathy whatsoever for em - but ya also got to stay aware of wrongful conviction.

spunky99 04-08-2007 07:01 PM

so dont go killing and raping girls when u leave the states and u should be ok?

notabook 04-08-2007 07:05 PM

Why I don't ever leave my house.

Just a few examples of shit that happens all the time to Americans who leave their houses:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Bk654sNEvq8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CIx66CYdGZI
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dz_EGwJd4LA
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uz39LLeGGTg
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PVWgWqSf_d0
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dE07TBqzvUY

Webby 04-08-2007 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky99 (Post 12223046)
so dont go killing and raping girls when u leave the states and u should be ok?

Throw pedo activity into that category as well spunky and all will be just fine :winkwink:

There is a *lot* of leeway on most things and it just takes some common sense to stay outta the shit. If ya would not behave like that in whatever your home country is, why behave otherwise elsewhere?

Now they promise 16 years in a jail cell of pedo activity - then even had to print it as a warning on the airline entry paperwork. In practice... they don't want to waste time on foreign idiots and usually pass em over to spend time in jail on their home countries. Even got a US Marshal LearJet which picks em all up every Thursday on a round trip down thru South America to take em back to a jail cell in the US.

Webby 04-08-2007 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by notabook (Post 12223061)
Why I don't ever leave my house.

:winkwink: True.. it's much the same in any country - there are idiots everywhere!

Randyyy 04-08-2007 09:43 PM

I want to live outside the US for at least 6 months

potter 04-08-2007 09:47 PM

Yeah, I usually try to murder people inside the states. It's a scary place outside the border.

Splum 04-08-2007 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12223071)
Even got a US Marshal LearJet which picks em all up every Thursday on a round trip down thru South America to take em back to a jail cell in the US.

Its amazing how much you know about US Marshals

Splum 04-08-2007 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by notabook (Post 12223061)
Why I don't ever leave my house.

Just a few examples of shit that happens all the time to Americans who leave their houses:

1. https://youtube.com/watch?v=Bk654sNEvq8 Negro attack
2. https://youtube.com/watch?v=CIx66CYdGZI Negro attack
3. https://youtube.com/watch?v=dz_EGwJd4LA Negro Attack
4. https://youtube.com/watch?v=uz39LLeGGTg Icy Road Crashes?
5. https://youtube.com/watch?v=PVWgWqSf_d0 Grand Theft Tank
6. https://youtube.com/watch?v=dE07TBqzvUY Enraged Elephant in India?

I have guns for the first three, and the others really are not related to everyday events in America. :1orglaugh

Webby 04-08-2007 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12223677)
Its amazing how much you know about US Marshals

Little do you know :winkwink:

Webby 04-08-2007 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Randyyy (Post 12223477)
I want to live outside the US for at least 6 months

You in Fla Randyyy? You may like Costa Rica for a while - it's only a few hours flying time :thumbsup

Splum 04-08-2007 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12223071)
Throw pedo activity into that category as well spunky and all will be just fine :winkwink: Now they promise 16 years in a jail cell of pedo activity - then even had to print it as a warning on the airline entry paperwork.

We dont need to know what you obviously know so well.

Webby 04-08-2007 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12223701)
We dont need to know what you obviously know so well.

Another "we"? Who is this "we" you have a need to constantly be supported by?? Insecurity again? :pimp

Splum 04-08-2007 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12223706)
Another "we"? Who is this "we" you have a need to constantly be supported by?? Insecurity again? :pimp

What part of the phrase "United" States of America perplexes you?

GatorB 04-08-2007 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky99 (Post 12223046)
so dont go killing and raping girls when u leave the states and u should be ok?


because no innocent american has even been thrown in a foriegn prison?

Webby 04-08-2007 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12223717)
What part of the phrase "United" States of America perplexes you?

Ah.. you are claiming you are speaking for a country now? Ooops... dream on :1orglaugh

GatorB 04-08-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12223044)
You find something wrong?? At least they are more civilized and not going to execute him.

Because 30 years in a maximum security prison in Nicaragua is sooo much better.

Quote:

Kinda familiar with this case - he was convicted based on the evidence in killing a 19 year old girl. He then tried to pay people off to avoid conviction. He is utterly stupid in his conduct and more than likely chance he would have been convicted in the US.
That's what they say. Of course they are going to dismiss his alibi witnesses who said he was in a town 2 hours away at the time of the murder, and say they are lying and get other people to lie to convict the "evil" American.


Quote:

Overall.. assume this is what you are referring to... some folks consider they can travel to other countries, ignore their laws, fuck with children, commit frauds, behave like idiots and knife people - then whinge and moan when they are arrested/convicted or thrown out of the country. Unfortunately, there are a high percentage of these idiots from North America - in fact, in some countries, - it's the major source of serious crime incidents.

Got no sympathy whatsoever for em - but ya also got to stay aware of wrongful conviction.
Fact is I've seen to many shows where for sure 100% innocent Americans are in foreign jails simply because they want to get even with America. To say it doesn't happen is pure ignorance.

aico 04-08-2007 11:15 PM

Cuz Southwest doesn't fly there?

Webby 04-08-2007 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12223747)
because no innocent american has even been thrown in a foriegn prison?

Don't think that was the intended statement anywhere Gator. People for almost every country have been imprisoned "inappropriately" - that includes those in their "home countries".

Webby 04-08-2007 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12223769)
Because 30 years in a maximum security prison in Nicaragua is sooo much better.

Basically.. commit crimes in any country and your ass gets dumped in jail. It's not about the comfort level.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12223769)
That's what they say. Of course they are going to dismiss his alibi witnesses who said he was in a town 2 hours away at the time of the murder, and say they are lying and get other people to lie to convict the "evil" American.

Not going to comment on this - a court will decide based on the evidence. That's their job.


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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12223769)
Fact is I've seen to many shows where for sure 100% innocent Americans are in foreign jails simply because they want to get even with America. To say it doesn't happen is pure ignorance.

I never said anything about "innocent Americans" - sure, they are all innocent, even in US jails. Get even for what???

notabook 04-08-2007 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12223685)
I have guns for the first three, and the others really are not related to everyday events in America. :1orglaugh

The final one wasn't for the elephant, it was for the car chase scene. The Icy Road thing is a very common occurrence -- just pointing out the dangers that exist outside your home so one should never leave it period [not in seriousness, of course, just pointing out how silly it is to live your life in fear].

Webby 04-08-2007 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by notabook (Post 12223794)
...just pointing out how silly it is to live your life in fear.

Think you put it into words there notabook - just keep getting the vibes that some folks perceive they have *loads* of enemies and a great need to defend something :winkwink:

Niklas 04-09-2007 07:17 AM

LOL, like you cant be innocent and convicted in the US.

DaddyHalbucks 04-09-2007 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12223006)
Just one example of shit that happens all the time to Americans.

http://www.cnn.com/video/player/play...s.captive.kgtv

I agree that many countries are not safe.

2012 04-09-2007 10:19 AM

Just don't be a dumb shit when you go to someone else's country and you will be fine. Every American should go abroad at least once in their life. Right now people don't really dig the U.S. so try to not stand out too much.

I was in some kind of restaurant where they served pizza near the Pigalle in Paris. I noticed they had pepperoni pizza so I got one. While I was waiting this guy from New York was having a fit and making a scene "I KNOW PIZZA, THIS IS NOT PEPPERONI, I'M FROM NEW YORK !" ... the loudest fucker in the entire place.

Don't be that asshole and you should be okay. :)

... by the way the pizza I got had a "sunny side up" egg in the center with churizo ? it was tasty

fuzebox 04-09-2007 10:24 AM

Funny, I don't travel within the US for the same reason.

DWB 04-09-2007 10:25 AM

For every reason you give me for NOT leaving the USA, I will give you one for leaving.

Shit can happen to you here, just as easy as it can happen there. If you act like a fool and break the law in another country, you will pay the price. The same as you would here.

tranza 04-09-2007 10:37 AM

If you kill someone in Nicaragua you'll get 30 years.

If you kill someone in Texas you get the chair.

I don't get why you're complainning.

_Richard_ 04-09-2007 10:58 AM

yea, there is a couple things that seem fishy about it

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pornguy 04-09-2007 11:03 AM

It does happen, and all to often. But remember that there are 2 sides to the story, and someplace in the middle is the truth,

FreeHugeMovies 04-09-2007 11:11 AM

Not much evidence IMO

JP513 04-09-2007 11:46 AM

By all means if you're scared, don't go abroad. But life involves risks anywhere, no matter where you are. If this keeps you in the USA, I can't imagine what would keep you from ever leaving the house. Might as well stay home and never leave.


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