Are the paysite owners leaking their content to torrent sites?
 

I somehow suspect many of them are "indirectly" uploading their content to these sites while playing lip service to affiliates.

definatly some do..

Not sure what you mean. Are they not allowed too?

on a similiar note, do some leak passwords to password sites?

probably do

well duhhhh.:winkwink:

Viral marketing, of course they are.

How do they expect us to do our job properly if they give away the latest full scene videos week after week?

The people who visit torrent sites are not likely to be exposed to your marketing, basically the target group is narrow and you have to market to them in a different way. Unless you run a torrent site their actions don't have much effect on your bottom line as you are targetting a different crowd.

And they don't give away full scenes, the key to marketing yourself on torrent sites is to put up part of the scene and make it end in a place where the user will want more. Or as some do, basically add the torrent but then stop seeding, which leads to getting banned after a while.

This is basically the same as running password sites, as some programs do to market themselves to another target group that wont fall for the same marketing tactics as the average surfer. The best way I've seen this done is to have the password automatically stop working for an IP after X amount of time after login, that's how you get the cheap people to sign up. Or have a site full of bad passwords which leads to frustration and thus to actually purchasing a membership

Beleive me, it's the full scene, the exact full scene as the one shown in the member area.

First off the chances of converting torrent site users are slim. Chances of converting enough to live on are worse.

Second, I seriously doubt a sponsor would upload full length videos week after week.

Lastly, if the sponsor was dumb enough to do that, it's still there video, they can do what they want with it, however I don't see the logic and it makes no sense. However if that is their logic your solution should be to move on to a different sponsor. Even if it's not the sponsor doing it and you think it affects your sales, then still you have to move on.

Ofcourse they do, happends everyday.
Its a good way to market your website. Cheap too. The only cost is for you to upload the torrent to some others.

then it's not the paysite owner doing it, unless they are idiots no paysite owner will be giving away the full scene, most are smart enough to only post part of the scene or to make the file go corupt after X minutes.

Affiliate programs aren't uploading the full scenes to movies. You will find some that do create promo scenes, cut/part scenes, drm movies, ect - however most torrent sites are stolen-uploaded content from past/current members.

Torrent sites only control a small % of possible traffic, and even less for possible sales. However Torrent sites do produce sales, much like newsgroups, p2p, ect.

Password sites, yes many of us leak passwords. Many people create user/pass leaks to full-fake member areas, for direct sales, traffic trades, ect. This marketing game has been going on for years. I welcome and my affiliates should welcome any pw leaks - since you get credit for all sales produced from that leak.


DRM is improving and is starting to have an even stronger need, give it time and I think many affiliate programs will change over to drm protected downloadable movies. And our members/surfers will be the ones that drove us to do so.

Of course they do as already confirmed - just as they upload their content to the newsgroups and filesharing boards
Sponsors have always run the best and biggest password trading sites - its a goldmine

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