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Here's an article recently released about a few websites.

http://www.nationalcoalition.org/videogame.phtml

What are your views on the topic at hand?

seriously dude, you know the audience your site gets, why are you sending them to porn? and more importantly how old are you ?

You should probably be shot.

My son is 9 and him and his friends all talk about finding cheats online. Now in the case of my son, he's not allowed to surf the web without me or mom sitting with him, but you should probably be shot anyway.

"PureCheats.com, the site that 10-year-old Brian visited, has similar sponsors that send those who click through to sign-up pages displaying pornography prior to age verification. "

So you and your business partner Jeff are basicly pieces of shit?

is anyone attempting to shut you down?

Lets hope so

Hahahahaahaha! yeah... he "accidently clicked" did he...

Ouch. There goes your reputation.

I'm serious mom. It was an accident. :1orglaugh

What reputation?

Interesting responses. I mean to disrepect to anybody here, or your family (sons, daughters). I'm well aware the sites get visits from a younger audience; exactly the reason why I do not advertise pornography, directly. If the user clicks through, then that's something beyond my control (aside from removing these types of ads).

In today's economy, it's hard to stay afloat with these types of sites that I've been running. I'm considering just throwing in the towel, putting up no advertisements, and just keeping the sites up for the general public (kids included) to enjoy.

Just wanted to get some different looks and opinions on this matter.

Ok, what he's doing isn't super right..
but come on, the internet... porn...

"I was extremely angry," she said. "I couldn't believe it (pornography) would be right there for kids. Every single boy that has these video games knows about these sites. So, I started telling everybody."


These sites? porn sites? its time someone tells her about net nanny, or having her sit next to her son while he surfs, or better reasons why people shold turn to AVS :P

An old fashion lynching might be nice

Dude, its a game cheat site. Anyone with half a brain knows theres gonna be tons of kids all over that. He's serving up porn to kids intentionally.

yep..

We have a couple extra ropes out in the shed... Anyone have a good tree branch?! Oh and we need a couple of horses... no saddles needed... Or short term rentals would work...

Whats trule amazing is that he's advertising it. Hey, look at me, i made the news!

Look, when it comes to porn, im an anything goes kinda guy. Wanna sell videos of a chick getting shit on while being gangbanged by 3 horses, fine, but dont give it to kids.

Kids will find porn eventually, dont lure them into it with cheat sites.

http://www.smilies.nl/rough/behead.gif

Make fun about lynching and shit but it IS pretty
sad there are mofo's like Ace Ace that are not just
doing crap like this but seem to be proud of it as well..

I bet he's doing a per-click program so he's screwing
his sponsors as well..

oh well..

I'm not "I MADE THE NEWS" and wanting my 15 minutes of fame, because it's not fame at all. It's quite disturbing to me. I'm looking to take these ads down fairly soon. I just wanted to get a general consensus of what everybody things.

Gary, I'm not "serving" pornography to kids. The company, in this case, FreeEzineBucks, is. I'm looking to the guys that run that, and talking with them now about getting some AVS setup (the page when you first click through is incredibly indecent. A large percentage (believe it or not) that goes to my sites ARE in fact people over the age of 18. Yes, I'm well aware there are people under the legal age to view pornography, which is why I'm looking into this even more.

I'm not defending anything here; just trying to get different views on this situation. IN NO WAY AT ALL is it right to offer kids pornography.

Are you on crack? You do realize freezinebucks is a porn company right? Thats like sending kids to donkeysex.com and saying "its not me giving them porn, its donkeysex.com"

Just to let you guys know, this is kind of a smack in the face for me. I didn't think too much about it before, but now I'm looking into things a little more.

I've just removed all of the ads. These sites will be running purely for entertainment / resource purposes, without advertisements. I'm willing to take the hit in server expenses and whatnot, to try to give something back to the community.

I might suppliment the "porn" ads with some more targetted things, that would be decent for kids to view.

Sorry for the troubles...

Im not saying he's right, I wish I could have that domain, I'd so turn it into a cheat site,
But what if my site was like Pure Cheaters? girls/guys who cheat? to the purest? :P
the again, purecheatER(S).com

but his mom should install some filtering software, or jump onto AOL...

Yes I'm aware they deal with pornography. The basic principals are "collect email addresses -> advertise to those email addresses". I'm not exactly sure how they advertise, and with what type of material (I'd assume they advertise FOR paysites) which, in fact, will use an AVS system. I think if the FreeEzineBucks splash page (as soon as you click through) is cleaned up a bit, and no pornography is used, along with 100% AVS, this may not be a problem.

Regardless, the ads are all down.

Sure, listen, im all about parental responsibility. My kids dont to anything unless me or mom are with them. LOL

But, not every parent is either able to do that or they just dont care. And in those cases, game sites shouldnt be serving up porn.

look for a game sponser?
sell games and stuff..
or do like
Here are the codes for thsi game, don't have it? BUY IT! and u make csah

I have NO idea what you are saying.. do you? doesnt make sense anyway so who cares..

Fairly soon? What about right away you fucktard! The general consensus is you're a piece of shit.

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Gary, I'm not "serving" pornography to kids. The company, in this case, FreeEzineBucks, is. I'm looking to the guys that run that, and talking with them now about getting some AVS setup (the page when you first click through is incredibly indecent. A large percentage (believe it or not) that goes to my sites ARE in fact people over the age of 18. Yes, I'm well aware there are people under the legal age to view pornography, which is why I'm looking into this even more.

Hahaha...you know damn well what you're doing. FreeEzineBucks has nothing to do with the fact that you're running a site with cheats for "102 Dalmations" or some such shit and putting up ads for pornography.

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I'm not defending anything here; just trying to get different views on this situation. IN NO WAY AT ALL is it right to offer kids pornography.

Then take the ads down until you figure out a way to prevent kids from viewing it.

You get a total of zero respect from me for your antics and even less for bringing it up in front of those of us that have enough problems without you making the news and getting yet another group of soccer moms crusading against the way we make our living. :321GFY

I appreciate the lesson in advertising, but it's in vein. I've tried all forms of advertising, from "Buy This Game Here" (with 15% or whatever commission) to "Bid on it at Ebay" (payment per bid, or click). The money is no comparison.

Despite taking a huge income loss, the ads have been removed.

Thanks for your input, the ads have already been removed.

Well of course people arent buying, its all kids. that why your using an email sponsor. even kids have emails

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LOL look at this popup i got from clicking a link at acecheats.

http://www.pureandfree.net/popupwindows/ps2advert.php

they are even calling these game systems 'sexy'
and referring to the surfer (kids) as 'big boy'

kids play video games.. more kids than adults.. that is 100% true.


no matter how much money you are losing by taking your ad's down.. i can assure you that it is for the better.

try collecting email addresses from these kids before they access your page.. and finding some better affiliate programs to push to them..


how much traffic does your site recieve? if its really going to be an issue making money with this site.. without pushing porn... icq me 138286046

So now you decided to try the dvd player market eh?

Experiment with sponsors from such places as Commision Junction (and others) that are out there. They have non adult related sponsor ads and some of them make pretty good money.

I know that for a fact as all the 'straight' camgirls use those places and some of them do rather well. It just takes some playing with the different sponsors they offer to see which works better for your particualr traffic.

You didn't get that pop-up from AceCheats, but more likely the sister site, PureCheats. Again, the ads are already down.

But where do you draw the line? Where is it crossing over? Is saying "Hey Sexy" and whatnot too "pornographic" for young viewers? Or "Hey Hot Stuff"? I mean, where does it actually end. I agree the original ads placed were a bit extreme, which is why they're now removed.

I'm well aware, you can make decent money with those other sites. But that's on a different scale. Regardless, I'm removing all ads (at least for the time being - and when I re-add them, they won't be pornographic).

wow all this talk about lynching and hanging... I didn't know this board was visit by so many REDNECKS

You didn't? Where have you been hiding?

I'm pretty sure the rednecks didn't invent the noose.

Nice to see another stereotypical neophyte on the board though.

Nice life.

Gimme a break and stop being drama queens. They had a raging "ANIME" add up, oh yes scantily clad cartoons are in the same ballpark as child porn and beastiality *rolls eyes*.

I know the webmaster of one of these sites (neither in the article, but they run a similar site with similar ads) and he isn't trying to peddle porn to kids, he's running the ads he needs to pay server bills. When you get 200k pageviews a day on a ENTERTAINMENT site the bandwidth costs can add up, and when you get a raging .15 cpm it's do or die, and in this case he chose "do".

And considering the fact 90% of the people here run freesites, they aren't in a position to talk, because shockingly enough I bet at least 50% of your traffic is not of legal age to view porn.

ANd to the dumbasses saying you can make "good money" off affiliate programs selling games, LOL? So now all these so called "KIDS" have massive budgets and credit cards.. hahaha.

Good.

It's tough to find out where that line is, but really you don't want to be the subject of too many news articles like that do you?

Err on the side of caution when dealing with kids online.

While your at it take down these ROM links thats piracy and also illegal.

I myself run several videogame sites for kids and teens and you can 100% cover your expenses with ads from retailers or online stores if you talk with them and can do the marketing right.

So there's no reason to blame it on the market etc..


Stupid newbies..

Educate yourself before you post please. "ROMs" are illegal to distribute - which is a good reason why I'm not doing that.

This is getting silly..

Agreed.

Thats why he was using freeezinebucks, all thats needed is an email address.

Swiftone... no one twisted Ace Ace's arm to do that sort of site. If the site won't pay for itself with advertising that is more in keeping with its format, wellllll, close it and do something else. Or figure out another way to advertise the right things and make the money.

But like AA said... its an entertainment site and attracting alot of kids that don't have access to a cc is going to be a hard sell. AA had the idea tho, link to his own personal AVS sites where the kids will be locked out period. As far as the link languages? The two he mentioned are over the top for kids being onsite. Keep them to, Adults, want more adult style entertainment? Click here. etc etc