So if you sent 2k SE hits to a sponsor....

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  • Mike Semen
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2001
    • 2924

    #1

    So if you sent 2k SE hits to a sponsor....

    Would you expect a sale or 2? Would you expect them to report all the hits?

    Just wondering...
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  • Nicky
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    • Mar 2003
    • 30071

    #2
    I would expect 5+ sales

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    • http
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      • Oct 2001
      • 1811

      #3
      If it all went to a single site, yes

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      • woj
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        • Jul 2002
        • 47880

        #4
        don't beat around the bush man, give us names already....
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        • Mike Semen
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2001
          • 2924

          #5
          2 sites one sponsor.

          And no I absolutely will not give names. i don't know what's going on and will not implicate anyone. I have a feeling its to do with hijacked traffic, so fuck naming names.
          Last edited by Mike Semen; 03-29-2007, 04:37 PM.
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          • donkevlar
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            • Sep 2006
            • 4325

            #6
            I'd say at least 2 sales, maybe 4 or 5 depending on the many factors.
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            • xxweekxx
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2002
              • 6780

              #7
              Bro calculate it like this..

              Sales Ratio = Actual Hits - Shaved Hits/ Actual Sales - Reported Sales
              Hit Ratio = Actual hits - Shaved hits

              So your doing ok !
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              • BOSS1
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                • Sep 2005
                • 4331

                #8
                i had the same problem this week

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                • Mike Semen
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                  • Dec 2001
                  • 2924

                  #9
                  Oh, and the person I just spoke to on ICQ, its not you I'm talking about.
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                  • Splum
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2003
                    • 6195

                    #10
                    I deal almost exclusively with direct SE traffic and I can tell you that it is a FACT there are lots of companies who are shaving. It really should come as no surprise to anyone, what I suggest people do is do their own research like you are doing Mike and youll know exactly who to promote and who not to. Also when new programs pop up do some research on who started them, lots of programs are friends or former workers of other programs and youll know then who to stay away from. Good luck.

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                    • BOSS1
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                      • Sep 2005
                      • 4331

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Splum
                      I deal almost exclusively with direct SE traffic and I can tell you that it is a FACT there are lots of companies who are shaving. It really should come as no surprise to anyone, what I suggest people do is do their own research like you are doing Mike and youll know exactly who to promote and who not to. Also when new programs pop up do some research on who started them, lots of programs are friends or former workers of other programs and youll know then who to stay away from. Good luck.
                      Can NATS programs be trusted?

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                      • Nicky
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 30071

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BOSS1
                        Can NATS programs be trusted?
                        Depends on what you mean by trusted?

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                        • Splum
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2003
                          • 6195

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BOSS1
                          Can NATS programs be trusted?
                          Very few things in this business can seriously be "trusted", I dont mean that in a paranoid way but over the years Ive seen good programs go bad and bad programs go good, programs change hands and affiliates never know so NEVER let your guard down and always track everything, if you see serious deviations obviously something is up.

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                          • k0nr4d
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 9231

                            #14
                            nats can be trusted in that its encoded source so it can't be modified. MPA3 can be trusted, probably to a lesser extent as they only have their class files encoded, so one could technically rebuild some of their classes to shave.
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                            • Splum
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2003
                              • 6195

                              #15
                              Originally posted by k0nr4d
                              nats can be trusted in that its encoded source so it can't be modified.
                              You sure about that?

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                              • http
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 1811

                                #16
                                I agree, whenever I take a closer look many things don't add up, at many programs, established or not.

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                                • Jamie
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                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 2517

                                  #17
                                  Depends on how targetted the traffic is, how saturated the keyword is, what kind of content you're trying to sell.. too many variables.

                                  SE traffic doesnt always mean instant or guranteed money. 2,000 people searching for "free porn" isn't going to get you much, 2,000 people searching for "gay male midgets fucking horses" will probably get you sales.

                                  The only true test is to send it to different sponsors and weigh the results.
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                                  • HighSociety
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                                    • Jun 2005
                                    • 1786

                                    #18
                                    you can't expect sales everytime with 2000 hits, maybe you will get 8 sales the next 2000 and it will all even out, if you are saying the hits are not showing then that is a whole different thread.
                                    Last edited by HighSociety; 03-29-2007, 05:59 PM.
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                                    • pocketkangaroo
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                                      • Jan 2005
                                      • 8452

                                      #19
                                      Splum is right, there are a lot of sponsors who still shave. While it's not always the obvious way of removing sales, some of it is done through cycling signup pages that reset affiliate ids, traffic leaks, and even not counting all clicks (thus making ratios look better). It's not as simple as deleting sales.

                                      When it comes to SE traffic and sponsors, some sites are built well for it, while some aren't. I've seen as low as 1:100 consistently and as high as 1:2000. Usually takes a lot of testing and data to find the right combos. 2000 hits is a very small sample size to work from. Wait till you've sent atleast 10k.

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                                        • Dec 2004
                                        • 6158

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Mike Semen
                                        Would you expect a sale or 2? Would you expect them to report all the hits?

                                        Just wondering...
                                        I know this is spammy but there's no hijacking going on at CleverBucks

                                        We all know new sites sell a bit better simply because surfers have never seen them, so it's a good time to send

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                                        • webgeek
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                                          • Mar 2007
                                          • 165

                                          #21
                                          do adwords or ypn allow you to put a page in between?
                                          maybe you can post to your page then send the user to the affiliate link. you track hits/uniques on your side then compare them all...
                                          does anyone do this?
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