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ztik 03-01-2007 06:34 PM

Embed flash movie files question
 
When I embed say a 10gig movie file into flash will make the size go down while keep the quality up?

These would be 10gig mpg's. I normally switch it over to wmv to stream, but can I can get it even smaller with flash?

psili 03-01-2007 06:36 PM

I have no idea about sizes and quality, but you could try to see what converting the video to FLV format does, and then user a SWF wrapper that's embedded in the page to load the external FLV.

ztik 03-01-2007 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psili (Post 11996909)
I have no idea about sizes and quality, but you could try to see what converting the video to FLV format does, and then user a SWF wrapper that's embedded in the page to load the external FLV.

Im not familiar with FLV but ill look it up and give it a try

thanks

psili 03-01-2007 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ztik (Post 11996929)
Im not familiar with FLV but ill look it up and give it a try

thanks

From what I understand these days (don't take this as truth), you rip a video to the flash FLV format. Then you create a SWF file and use the new media components to create a player that can load those FLV formats in, on the fly. Just never have played with compression settings and video quality.

Here's a couple of tutorials I haven't tried out yet:

On the fly player:
http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/1640/

Another tutorial:
http://scott.yang.id.au/2006/07/flas...eg-flowplayer/

ztik 03-01-2007 06:51 PM

Hm so I can just open up flash and stick it in there somehow?

I was thinking about using this player
http://flowplayer.sourceforge.net/

psili 03-01-2007 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ztik (Post 11996981)
Hm so I can just open up flash and stick it in there somehow?

I was thinking about using this player
http://flowplayer.sourceforge.net/

Not the best person to ask, but:

I think you create the actual player, that's pretty much just a pretty wrapper: control buttons with some action script and that's it - that's what's physically embedded in the page.

Then you rip your videos to FLV format and store those somewhere. You then pass the former SWF player a parameter telling it where to look for and stream the FLV file. View Youtube's source and you can kind of see how they have a common player that's embedded, but it loads different videos.

I think *shrug*

ztik 03-01-2007 07:38 PM

Hmm yeah kinda makes sence lo

guess ill read into it more

whorehole 03-01-2007 07:49 PM

I've been curious about the flash video format as well.

Most everything I've seen looked too compressed to really use, but I'm sure the ability is there to get it to look top notch- the question at that point is whether its any smaller in file size than a regular video file

NastyDollars is using the flash format for some of their new tours

whorehole 03-01-2007 07:56 PM

That flowplayer you posted is pretty sweet.

I especially like the thumbnail feature for jumping around in the video.
That seems a bit more involved than how YouTube does it- looks like you need some serverside streaming set up

How about the video conversion step- are alot of the newer programs featuring the option to render to FLV, etc? Any recommendations for say, mass batch conversion of WMVs to flv?

gimilin 03-01-2007 08:09 PM

Can try!

psili 03-01-2007 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by whorehole (Post 11997276)
That flowplayer you posted is pretty sweet.

I especially like the thumbnail feature for jumping around in the video.
That seems a bit more involved than how YouTube does it- looks like you need some serverside streaming set up

How about the video conversion step- are alot of the newer programs featuring the option to render to FLV, etc? Any recommendations for say, mass batch conversion of WMVs to flv?

Again, I have just read stuff, but it seems FFMPEG (http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/) seems to be a solution used for server-side batching -- command line, style. I found another tutorial that named another solution, but I can't remember that.

Remember also, for those flash freaks, there also seems to be some open source flash servers out there, such as Red 5: http://osflash.org/red5

fris 03-01-2007 08:23 PM

just one question, why do you want to embed a 10 gig movie

psili 03-01-2007 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fris (Post 11997428)
just one question, why do you want to embed a 10 gig movie

Why not want to stream a 10 gig movie? Or a 100 gig ++ , etc?

Really, it's those who ask "why would you" rather than "how can i".

Personally, I dunno why. Just offer some advice and let the dude work it out. Maybe he's got an in with Comcast or something with wicked broadband long-play video agreements or something. *shrug*

ztik 03-01-2007 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris (Post 11997428)
just one question, why do you want to embed a 10 gig movie


Its top secret :)


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