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Cyndalie 02-16-2007 09:05 AM

Vista Corrupting iPods
 
Apple is warning customers who use the Windows version of its iTunes software to hold off upgrading to Windows Vista until it can release a patch to fix a number of serious compatibility issues, one of which could result in a corrupt iPod player.

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Apple, in a statement posted on its Web support forum, says upgrading from Windows 2000 or Windows XP to Vista may result in the inability to play songs purchased and downloaded to the desktop iTunes player from its online iTunes store.

Worse, however, is the problem that iPod users could encounter if they try to eject their digital music player from a desktop port using the "Safely Remove Hardware" feature found on the Vista system tray. That, Apple warns ominously, "may corrupt your iPod."

Apple says the safe way to undock an iPod from a Vista-equipped PC, until a patch is released, is to be sure and use the "Eject iPod" control in the iTunes software.

Apple says the problems will be fixed when it releases the next version of iTunes "within a few weeks."

Until then, PC-using iPod customers could experience a number of other problems if they're running Vista, including contacts and calendars that won't synch with their iPods and problems making changes to iPod settings.

In the meantime, some users report that they can get downloaded iTunes songs to play on Vista if they right-click on the iTunes.exe program, select Properties, click on the Compatibility tab, and check "Run This Program As An Administrator."
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As if Vista didn't have enough problems, many wonder if this warning is a ploy to stress to Microsoft their market share reaches deep into the PC user population and they have the power to cause even more inscurity about installing the new OS. Who do you think is 'at fault' here, Microsoft or Apple?

In addition, because Microsoft was so "secure" about their new OS keeping everything from pricing to features a secret, especially from Apple (Could it be because they stole tons of ideas and graphical features from OSX?) other Apple Windows applications are not Vista ready. These include: QuickTime, the iPod shuffle reset utility, Bonjour for Windows, AirPort for Windows, the iDisk utility, AppleWorks for Windows, and Apple Software Update for Windows. The standalone iPod updater for iTunes 6 for Windows also isn't ready for Vista.

Technical support document released by Apple: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305042

who 02-16-2007 09:07 AM

I don't hear anyone saying anything good about Vista at all.

FuqALot 02-16-2007 09:08 AM

vista = shit
ipod = shit
shit + shit = shit shit

Cyndalie 02-16-2007 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FuqALot (Post 11927253)
vista = shit
ipod = shit
shit + shit = shit shit

By deduction, does Apple = bull?

UKJack 02-16-2007 09:10 AM

Its not Microsoft's job to make sure its os is compatible with apples stuff thats apples job but they both suck anyway

u-Bob 02-16-2007 09:14 AM

interesting.

Vite 02-16-2007 09:18 AM

Microsoft is part owner of Apple INC...

Trax 02-16-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by UKJack (Post 11927261)
Its not Microsoft's job to make sure its os is compatible with apples stuff thats apples job but they both suck anyway

in general i agree
and its not like apple is not trying to blame it on ms here to praise their own shit lol

Adultnet 02-16-2007 10:35 AM

vista is working fine but has allot of bugs and much software it does not yet support well.

seeric 02-16-2007 10:37 AM

and here come the vista issues. i would never switch OS until at least 4 months or longer after its retail release.

just a punk 02-16-2007 10:51 AM

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Vista Corrupting iPods
Ha-ha, nice move! Where are those all-love-it-for-those-amazing-transparent-windows Vista-lovers now? :) Post here if you're still using that "OS" and feel happy with it. I guess you already bored of that all "nice-looking" Vista's features and switched it to the classic interface.

RawAlex 02-16-2007 10:51 AM

Vista issues? No, this is an APPLE ISSUE. Specifically, Apple has problems because they way they wrote Itunes, it attempts to take over your PC and get in the way of everything. The new Vista doesn't allow this sort of thing, and so Apple has to re-write their code.

Realizing that not being fast with new code would cause embarrassment for Microsoft, Apple has been purposely dragging their heels.

Apple is playing a game for public favor, and Ipod users are the victims.

Drake 02-16-2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyndalie (Post 11927258)
By deduction, does Apple = bull?

lol........

ry0t 02-16-2007 12:34 PM

Im actually scared of vista

stickyfingerz 02-16-2007 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 11927818)
Ha-ha, nice move! Where are those all-love-it-for-those-amazing-transparent-windows Vista-lovers now? :) Post here if you're still using that "OS" and feel happy with it. I guess you already bored of that all "nice-looking" Vista's features and switched it to the classic interface.

err you mean why didnt apple make sure their software would work right on vista?

rapmaster 02-16-2007 12:53 PM

I just bought a new laptop with vista preinstalled. I'm not having any issues really except that google video player doesn't work with it.

I'm happy with it, nothing too special though.

borked 02-16-2007 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11928386)
err you mean why didnt apple make sure their software would work right on vista?

THe iPod and iTunes is in the same boat as iRiver H10 and WMP10, as the Windows Zune player & software was in right up until the release version of Vista.

But, with Microsoft's track record on 'interfering' with competitors software on their OS, it does make one take a second glance at it.

As I read it and accoring to the ADC, Microsoft's disk unmount calls are(were) seriously whacked and so to prevent iPod file corruption when the user yanks the cable to uncleanly disconnect their iPod, iTunes hooks into Safely Remove Hardware, and closes out writes before letting Windows confirm it's safe to remove the device. Vista takes a different level to closing writes before confirm and so this could be what is leading to the data corruption.

just a punk 02-16-2007 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rapmaster (Post 11928420)
I just bought a new laptop with vista preinstalled. I'm not having any issues really except that google video player doesn't work with it.

I'm happy with it, nothing too special though.

Have even no DRM issues as well? Hmm... :disgust

just a punk 02-16-2007 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11928386)
err you mean why didnt apple make sure their software would work right on vista?

Just read about Elimination of Unified Drivers and Denial-of-Service via Driver/Device Revocation. Nice, isn't it? :winkwink:

madawgz 02-16-2007 02:12 PM

what a big surprise :1orglaugh

RawAlex 02-16-2007 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 11928740)

Read carefully... defective drivers have existed for years, and create potential security holes for Windows. Microsoft starts cutting those off, and you get mad because windows is making their systems more secure.

Too bad that Apple felt obliged to write poor quality bloatware to support Itunes and Ipods, and now are caught because they tried too hard to circumvent the rules and the available hooks in the operating system.

Note, I have a couple of thumbdrives, and you can pull them out and plug them in without issue. Why can't apple manage this simple task?

FelixFlow 02-16-2007 03:11 PM

microsoft did that on purpose to garner support for their zune player (which is a bust)

>:<

just a punk 02-16-2007 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11929002)
Read carefully... defective drivers have existed for years, and create potential security holes for Windows. Microsoft starts cutting those off, and you get mad because windows is making their systems more secure.

He-he :) Are you sure the reason is the security only? :winkwink:


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