Where did AIDS come from anyway?
 

Where the hell did AIDS come from anywhere? It just appeared one day didn't it? Maybe it was created for some type of warfare and then spun out of control. Maybe there's a cure, maybe not. Maybe the US Gov is behind it and will eventually do 'research' with a pharmaceutical company and make tons of money.

Here's some interesting reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_conspiracy_theories

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From what Ive heard...it was a problem for monkeys and chimps for a few hundred years...and then some guys in Africa ate some infected monkey meat..and then it was transferred to humans...and all hell has broken loose..true story

Thats the same story I heard

there was a theory that a danish scientist was culturing a vaccination for the "sleeping sickness" caused by the tetse fly, while culturing it they setup camps across africa whre they would kill monkeys to culture the vaccination on thier liver or kidney tissue. Then they proceeded to go to the villages and started mass vaccinating the people. It only takes like 1 or 2 fucked up monkeys out of the thousands to kill to spread hiv

but another theory i herd was a monkey busted a nut in some chicks eye and thats how it all started

either way both are good theories

Good info on the various theories as to how AIDS originated

The most viable theory to me is that it came about due to the butchering and consumption of monkey meat.

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i believe it was created by us humans...fuck...

soo..that's what we get for eating our descendant? :(

Nobody really knows yet. It certainly wasn’t engineered by the US government as a biological weapon, but nobody knows just exactly how it crossed from monkeys to humans. I think the theory of consumption of monkey meat is probably one of the most likely sources as stated by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude.

thanks for the articles :)

I remember this kid in college telling me how it is a man made disease to control population. it is so smart that there can never be a cure for it because it reverse engineers itself back to rDNA to for new DNA strans.

I remember his quote of "whats the easiest way to spread a disease to millions of people? through sex of course, everyone does it"

while stoned, so it seemed so much truer at the time. non the less, scary shit

I heard a variation on the African monkey theme. Rather than eating monkey meat it was transferred by fukking monkeys. Makes more since to pass a live virus like this, rather than dead meat going through the digestive track.

here is the answer



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Origin of HIV

Main article: AIDS origin

AIDS was first reported June 5, 1981, when the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recorded a cluster of Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (now classified as Pneumocystis jiroveci pneumonia) in five homosexual men in Los Angeles.[121] Health authorities soon realized that nearly half of the people identified with the syndrome were not homosexual men.

Three of the earliest known instances of HIV infection are as follows:

1. A plasma sample taken in 1959 from an adult male living in what is now the Democratic Republic of the Congo.[122]

2. HIV found in tissue samples from a 15 year old African-American teenager who died in St. Louis in 1969.[123]

3. HIV found in tissue samples from a Norwegian sailor who died around 1976.[124]

Two species of HIV infect humans: HIV-1 and HIV-2. HIV-1 is more virulent and more easily transmitted. HIV-1 is the source of the majority of HIV infections throughout the world, while HIV-2 is not as easily transmitted and is largely confined to West Africa.[125] Both HIV-1 and HIV-2 are of primate origin. The origin of HIV-1 is the Central Common Chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes troglodytes) found in southern Cameroon.[126] It is established that HIV-2 originated from the Sooty Mangabey (Cercocebus atys), an Old World monkey of Guinea Bissau, Gabon, and Cameroon.

Most experts believe that HIV probably transferred to humans as a result of direct contact with primates, for instance during hunting or butchery.[127] A more controversial theory known as the OPV AIDS hypothesis suggests that the AIDS epidemic was inadvertently started in the late 1950s in the Belgian Congo by Hilary Koprowski's research into a polio vaccine.[128] [129] According to scientific consensus, this scenario is not supported by the available evidence.[130] [131] [132]

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I am so incredibly sick of conspiracy theories.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh ... Too funny and possibly true??

AIDS is not a "natural" virus. It was man-made in the 1950's, by scientists testing vaccinations (for polio I believe) in monkeys. This vaccination, derived from monkeys, was given to people in Africa. From there, it mutated into a retrovirus and the rest is history.

Supposedly, the first guy (patient zero) to ever develop AIDS, was a homosexual who spread it like crazy in the 1980's, but the disease actually existed decades before that in Africa.

I watched a documentary about this and it said basically the same . It was chimps specifically that carried a version of the AIDS virus that they used.

But it also said that it will never be completely known if this is how it got started. It could have been a coincidence that the first reported AIDS case appeared within the vicinity a year after the vaccine injections. Thing is, all of the vaccine was used and has been gone for 50 years so nobody has access to the original samples to see if they were laced with the AIDS virus.

Imagine knowing that out of trying to do good, you wound up unleashing something that has killed millions.

I'm an optimist, but I believe the worst is yet to come. It is only a matter of time before science combines with nature to accidently create a retrovirus even more deadly than AIDS. It may be 50 or 100 years from now, but it's coming.

I just wrote a paper about this last quarter in my English course. Also i have studied this phenomenon in a few anthropology course primarily physically anthropology.

In my research - not to say i discovered this shit- but if you take an African Great Ape who are born with the SIV strain and inject this same strain into an Asian Great Ape, that orangutan would become sick just as human would. African great apes are not susceptible to the SIV strain. I can't say accurately without the papers in front of me but i believe all old world primates residing in Africa have the SIV strain.

Similar to the Bird Flu Pandemic, basically HIV strains were passed during the butchering and consumption of Bush Meat.

I'm a conspiracy theorist like many of you but I don't think Aids was a device engineered by humans.

And Chapelle is right you cant fuck both monkeys and humans.
And what THE FUCK IS JUICE? I WANT SOME APPLE DRINK! ITS GREEN.

Chimps and people got infected from cuts in their hands. SIV mutated to HIV.

Patient Zero was a Airline Steward if I remember corectly. He apparantly got it in Haiti, from the there he spread it fucking all across america.

on another note Scientists beieved that the original people who got it in California did not say they were gay cause of the stigma and that some were married....so yeah they were all gay.

I saw a documentary on HBO (I think) about this very thing. I don't think this is exactly correct from the documentary but they had DNA and everything basically linking it to this vaccine - that they forced the people to take.

It came from the gays of course...

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I think that was the same guy who invented cancer! :thumbsup

I'm thinking the government made it for population control to take out mostly poor people, gays, and drug addicts. It also keeps fear levels high and fuels the economy.

I'm just guessing, but maybe you caught it from sharing a hypodermic needle with a junkie.

Another theory is you let an HIV positive gay dude pop in your pooper.

Those are two of the most common ways HIV is transmitted.

The important thing is to stop your dangerous activities and to seek medical attention immediately...

Good luck,

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couple of africans fucked some monkeys

^^^^

But Dave Chapelle says people who fuck monkeys don't fuck humans it either Monkeys or Humans. Therefore you a liar good sir.

Anyway.. nobody knows :) Or.. to put it another way, some people may know, but they ain't talking.

There appears to be reason to believe both AIDS and Ebola viruses were the result of a genetic engineering program - and there are similarities tho Ebola is "hot" and quick-acting.

Ebola is highly contagious with symptoms starting with jaundice, inflammation, very rapid weight loss, delirium, shock, hepatic failure, hemorrhaging and eventually multi-organ failure where, eg, the stomach just gets spewed up along with anything else in the body that is "spewable".

One odd thing about the Reston (Virginia) outbreak was that four people were infected with Ebola agent. There is no doubt these infections were genuine and the virus was strong in their bloodstream and and multiplied in their cells. But... none of these guys actually fell ill. If that was in Africa they would have died while their organs liquified and blood poured from all orifices. In all four Reston people, the virus eventually cleared from their bodies.

Prior to this time there was research by Merck and some other drugs company where they spent $35mill and hitting on subject matter very close to both AIDS and Ebola and, at the same time, more money was being spent by the US DOD into immune system destroying agents (related to bio warfare) - so who knows? One thing is certain (as certain as can be) - is that Ebola has never been found in the natural enviornment.

Until the source of AIDS/Ebola is found - the whole picture stinks.

^^^^^nice

and i agree with chapelle, whos going to fuck a monkey?

Well, not sure about you but I always trust information I find on the Internet. I mean, everything we do is real too, right?

Does anyone really think the US government could do something like this and keep it a secret? Hardly.

HIV started in Africa, but because of their lack of medical attention it was unkown to anyone important until it landed in the US. Who knows how it got here; Perhaps some well hung dude in Africa nailed a monkey in the poop shoot (it happens), who gave it to a hooker in Hati, who gave it to an Airline steward(ess) in the US.

I'm not worried about such things. I don't do drugs and sleep only with my wife. Problem solved.

Steven Segal was quite clear in a TV interview that the US government invented AIDS.

Good thing you asked that question on GFY and not in cattle/sheep country, although some of them good ol' country boys might have gotten a chuckle out of that...

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Well, I guess that settles it then.

Case closed.

Thats real, Steven Segal just wanna keep all the fine ass orangutans, bonoboos, and chimps to himself. Smart man to spread such fallacy but damn I hate self-fish people.

Not a problem keeping that under wraps Rochard - the US govt is not alone in this. There is *plenty* stuff govts do that is successfully kept quiet and doubt even the leaders of these countries have to know - unless they knew where to look :)

Several EU govts have done the same thing as the US in attempting to destroy the immune system. Got no idea how far they have developed this, but doubt it's too sophisticated, mainly because some agents are just too damned hot to even disperse, - nevermind handle.

When Ebola hit Marburg the WHO went into a complete panic internally and afraid to declare the possible damage internationally, but quietly tried to "manage" flights around the world where there was the prospect of the Ebola agent being carried. This was a "hot agent" which multiplied itself rapidly and.... dunno the current status (prob nobody has attempted to find out), from the Reston outbreak, there is evidence of the possibilty Ebola can be carried in the air.

Sure govts can get up to shit :) Ebola is an example and not any known natural "species" - even in Africa.

HIV came from SIV (closely related retroviruses). Welcome to Evolution 101. Apparently someone was sharing needles with a chimp. ;-)

AIDS is a syndrome invented in 1982. If you have one of x number of symptoms combined with HIV you have it.

That's what I've heard too.

Even if it's true (which we can never know) it was unintentional and was the byproduct of trying to save lives. Two scientists were looking to crate a new Polio vaccine. One went to Eastern Europe, the other went to Africa, because they needed to test their new vaccines on populations that were largely untreated for polio. The reason they were looking for new polio vaccines is because the current one caused some deaths and they wanted to create a more safe vaccine.

Monkeys and chimps were used but only a chimps in Africa are known to carry a strain of HIV. While chimps were used curing the vaccinations it's not known whether any of them carried this strain of HIV or not and it can never be known now. One million African were vaccinated.

Aids is probably not new. There is some evidence that points to an Aids epidemic in ancient Greece.

A little man was sent on a mission to retrieve the cure for AIDS. After finding the black suitcase with the cure and after lugging it around, he searched for a way to bring it back to his boss. When he put the suitcase down, a little girl opened it up, picked up the syringe, and stabbed the little man with it, inserting the cure into his body. She laughed at the little man, not realizing that she just lost the vaccine that could've cured her. Now, the little man stays in hiding, knowing that the people who want that vaccine have been extensively searching for him.

The world is so overpopulated and we generate so much energy through our physical actions alone that the polar ice caps begin to slowly melt.

I always heard that over in Africa (in one of the remote tribes) they'd put monkey flesh on their wounds and got it from monkeys that way.

I'm sure that there were a few that fucked monkeys to, ha ha.

I've been reading a lot about it and it seems to make more sense that it was created on accident trying to create a vaccine. That's pretty scary.

From African niggers fucking the monkeys.

Hitler had it developed during WWII in the concentration camps.
After the fall of the Third Richt it dropped out of site.
Now the Bush family uses it to control the democrates.
It works too.

A retrovirus isn't something that wash fashionable 20 years ago - you can't be a normal virus, using DNA to replicate and suddenly 'mutate' into a virus that uses a whole different mechanism and nucleic acid to replicate...

Go back to killing fluffy bunnies your ignorant racist


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