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What will be the next "big idea" ? What does the adult online community need.
These two questions are a little different but should go hand and hand.
What do you think the next "big idea" will be online? If it is something that you are not working on or can not do yourself then please feel free to share. What does the adult online community need ? (from an affiliate/site owner's perspective, not from a surfer's point of view). I think we desperately need to be independant from visa. Someone needs to step up and start thier own adult friendly credit card company that actually loans the money out, and is not visa backed. Loan the money out and make it functional like paypal and have it work with nats, ccbill, etc.. and i think it will be an instant overnight success, make billions. It is proven lending (credit companies) make bank. This company would make money on both sides, collecting interest from the users and making a transaction fee for the website owners. Got to love making money on both sides. The problem is very few people have the finances or can raise the VC to pull off a project like this. Share your own ideas... |
i agree on billing & visa
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The industry needs more self-righteous crusaders.
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How about epassporte but run properly?
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visa has been growing a customer base for how long now? why in the world would you want to be adult orientated credit card company? that's like shooting yourself in the foot. let's start a cc company and cater primarily to the industry with the most fraud, chargebacks, and scams. sorry it's just a really dumb idea imo.
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Why is having an alternative to visa is a really dumb idea? So you like counting on visa, if visa pulls the plug one day how will we process credit card transactions ? I love the people who say dumb idea but have no ideas of their own to share. I guess you miss read the title " let's bash other people's ideas" when infact it said please share your ideas... Its ok we still love you. |
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IMO, want to shut down porn or put a major hurting on us, visa pulling the plug is #1 way to do it. I think visa pulling out would be more damaging then .xxx or 2257 etc... just my opinion. |
need people to stop making zango threads
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Interesting thread:)...gets you thinkin!
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paypal had the best chance at being a real billing system by aggregating and using their ability to freeze accounts and challenge chargebacks. However, when they were bought by ebay adult processing ended.
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1. You load your account from various different sources (wire,credit card, etc..). This would be independent from visa, bank to epass account then send money online. But the vast majority of consumers like to be able to "charge it" . You are not going to get many consumers who will go pre load their "credit card" and then go spend money. This might work fine as a b2b payment method, but this wouldn't work for what I am suggesting. 2. You can get an epass visa card which i assume works like other banks that have visa cards ? People could make charges and pay interest ??? either way this option depends on visa and would defeat the purpose. now if epass wants to give people credit balances and keep visa out of the picture, then they would be making a big step in the right direction. |
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VISA isn't adult friendly? last time i checked every porn site on the net accepts them. what more do you want? so it's not going to be adult only. so what is the fucking point? if you're launching a credit card company you've got much bigger things to worry about than how to corner the online porn industry. the % of transactions coming from consumers using their card to buy porn would be fucking miniscule to begin with. visa has been reliable for a very long time, but now everyone should start using your card? and it's somehow better than visa BECAUSE it's geared towards online porn purchases? i'm pretty sure i'd be more worried about your fly by night porn credit card operation folding up than visa. sorry, your idea isn't an idea, it's just stupid shit. my :2 cents: |
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Wow. Maybe we don't love you. For argument sake lets say it is 100% the same as visa, wouldn't you like to have an alternative ? Answer me this, with no alternative, if Visa pulls the plug what do you think will happen to the industy ? So you are saying you are not worried about visa getting more and more restrictive on sites. You are not worried that visa fees may go up a lot over time, that their acceptable chargeback % may get lower. You think there is not chance in hell that visa can start doing like search engines and domain name registers and start policing sites, or start banning sites from using them for processing because the site has words like " teen " in the url or on the site. You think there is zero chance that if .xxx was ever passed and adult sites were forced to use .xxx that visa would stop processing the .com 's ? I am sure there are a million other things that could happen. Obviously, you must be 100% confident that visa will be around for ever and will be as "friendly" as they are now. How would an alternative hurt things? How would having an option be a bad idea ? Someone explain that to me. You guys always say ' don't have all your eggs in one basket" what do you think you are doing with visa ? Just the rambling thoughts of a guy without a brain that had this idea while i was taking my last shit. Maybe for my next shit I can write a book on how not to be an asshole. |
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maybe next time i wont throw out the first idea.
Anyone else have any ideas to share ? |
How about a way to actually stream content securely in high resolution dvd quality and really protect exclusive content in hopes to keep it off peer2peer and other file sharing networks.
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This "alternative to VISA" card idea has been discussed like 50,000 times. Unless you can find some magical way to actually push dollar bills through the screen and pay that way, it's just not gonna work. VISA is too big, there is no worthwhile alternative in terms of payment. Everything else is just a fraction of the volume VISA can do.
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before anything we need to clean the net up a bit from people who steal shit right there you will see a huge mega increase in signups
its flooded with free complete movies all over the place |
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To the person who asked how do you get the cards into their hands... I'm just an idiot with fantasy ideas, but i t hink AOL was presented with a similar problem and they found a way to make it happen. Like i said it cost money. |
and one last thing, i know a way to gurauntee no fraud or chargebacks.
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Like he said you're living in a little fantasy world when it comes to the practical implementation of your idea. It makes absolutly no sense from a business point of view. |
I'd love to see Amex back in adult, but after the x-pics shit and all the years that passed, it will never happen...what a shame !
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The single most important thing to this industry is the payment methods..whatever the vehicle is..without that revenue the industry would be DEVASTATED, starting with the sponsors! Anyone that says that visa isn't important and we could get by without them needs to take a look at the percentage of people that have and use visa cards. Ask the people running sites that DO NOT accept visa how greatly this affects their business. Yes a viable alternative payment system that accepts adult transactions is greatly needed in the industry and if that could somehow be coupled with an age verification system that actually works and would be acceptable to the legal/political community would be an absolute billion dollar idea. Is it a new credit card?..I personally don't think so..we need something along the lines of a paypal model. The age verification issue is a pretty complicated one, and I think the biggest roadblock to that is allowing the person the remain anonymous while at the same time providing verifiable age data. Of course this isn't a new idea obviously, but these 2 issues would do more good for the industry than anything else I can think of. Sure we have other legal issues floating around out there..the .xxx issue..2257 etc. but thats not really what this particular thread is about. |
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i mean, whatever, keep the dream alive i guess lol. |
Adult Industry needs more nba4life2k's
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stormpay use to do adult, along with ikobo and they all stopped, there must have been a problem
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What happend to that company (was is 123billing) that loand money to guys with out credit card so they can join a site, but then send money at a later time by mail ?
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actually it doesnt matter..the point of this thread is to discuss new ideas
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For my idea, you don't have all of the details. My idea wasn't thought up while i was taking a shit as you put it. Secondly, you don't think anyone can compete with visa nor do you think they should, therefore doesn't matter what i say you have your mind made up. You made bunch of comments that are totally ridiculous so again more reason for me not to waste more time getting into the details. |
Well....... it seems that after 2000, Adult has finally been outstripped by Mainstream when it comes to adopting new trends. Shit..... Web 2.0 is almost all MAINSTREAM, you don't see adult versions of that.
Maybe the reputation of adult as being first adopters/early adopters of technology only applies to shit that is directly applicable like webcam networks, streaming video, affiliate programs, etc |
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What do you think is more of a threat to the industry than losing visa. Everything is a fucking what if. What if .xxx happens. What if the 2257 regulations don't get changed. Anything that hasn't happend yet is a what if. |
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I don't know but there are 100 ways to fuck up a good idea. SO if they didn't make it work it doesn't mean the idea is bad. it's not like a credit card is a new concept. It is proven business model that makes billions. Question " what does the adult industry need" i through out, an alternative to visa, a payment method where people can "charge it" instead of having to fund it and is independent from visa. no no can't happen/ Can never be done. bad idea, no way, it's visa for life baby! we don't need anything else, to think other wise and you must be clueless, how could anyone think of something so stupid as an alternative to visa. wow what an retarded way of thinking. I wonder why i don't want to post here anymore unless i am looking for something. I try to encourage some good thinking and new ideas, get a little business thread going and all you get is the " you must be stupid, that will never happen" people. |
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what we really need is will77
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